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View Poll Results: Bakemonogatari - Episode 13 Rating
Perfect 10 39 27.08%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 59 40.97%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 27 18.75%
7 out of 10 : Good 9 6.25%
6 out of 10 : Average 7 4.86%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 3 2.08%
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Old 2009-11-02, 13:40   Link #21
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What does that have to do with anything? Usefulness? What? I was just talking about how all the arcs are pretty explicitly set up as ways of developing their relationship. Note that the relationship is the star here, not the characters themselves necessarily.

Mayoi's arc is about Senjougahara seeing the true nature of Araragi's "helpful" personality, plus the obvious confession and its aftermath. We also get a scene about them promising not to hide things from each other.

Suruga's arc is about the aftermath of that promise, and how it conflicts with Araragi's ideals. He has to realize that suddenly he's important to someone, and that not getting anyone else involved isn't the best way to make everyone happy. It's also about them both wanting to help each other, but not really being sure how to (Senjougahara wants to help him study/get his life in order, Araragi wants to help her get her friend back).

Nadeko's arc is about Senjougahara being pushed into the background. The whole theme was "choose who you want to save" with the analogy being that he can't spend so much time hanging around other girls if he expects to be Senjougahara's boyfriend. You can't be friendly with everyone equally, at some point you have to stop and think about what's most important to you.

Hanekawa's arc is about... well we haven't seen it yet. I don't doubt the events of episode 12 help set it up though.

And yes, there's more to the arcs than that, most obviously the particular issues that the girls had, but in terms what they all mean to Araragi it's pretty obvious what the overall theme is. People sometimes indulge in what I think of as "eroge thinking" in that they separate the story into "routes" that they treat as almost causally isolated from each other. This is simply not the case in most series, and especially not this one. Araragi is the main character for a reason, and no it's not simply to be an audience surrogate. This is his story, and focusing on each arc as an entirely separate thing misses that.
See that's the thing, I don't see the how the stories are set up to develop their relationship. I mean the only thing that is clear is that the story is mainly about Araragi and ONLY HIM. I mean come on, I think you are reaching too far and saying that EVEN Nadeko Snake is about their relationship too. If you have read Kizu then you will know that the whole series really is more about how Araragi saves everyone without caring for himself and not about developing a bond with Senjougahara. Fine, I'll admit that Mayoi Snail and Suruga Monkey helped develop them but that is only because she was the first arc character and story-structure-wise she had to appear.
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Old 2009-11-02, 14:23   Link #22
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Seems that they try to tell us why it's still not online and apologize for it. Last update was two hours ago and they mention that it'll be online at around 8am at the earliest (please correct me if I'm wrong).

You can find the episode here as soon as it is posted.
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Old 2009-11-02, 14:56   Link #23
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I'd rather the delays... than a 90% finished product.

no more episode 10 's

So take your time SHAFT ... I hope you do not dissapoint.
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Old 2009-11-02, 15:46   Link #24
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You know I just realized, with fans all over the world rushing to the site to watch the episode, wouldn't the site overcrowd and either cause it to shut down or the frame rate of the video to go incredibily slow?
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Old 2009-11-02, 15:49   Link #25
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Old 2009-11-02, 15:57   Link #26
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I hope Tsubasa's OP is the best animated sequence.. of the 5... they've had way longer to work on it than the rest..
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Old 2009-11-02, 15:59   Link #27
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The runup seems to be a trainwreck.

2nd November, 1957 hours: Arrived at editing room.

2000: Commence high-speed sorting of clips coming in from SHAFT.

2200: Finally connected to the server to update. The hit count of the day is over 500,000. Editing still in progress. Hanekawa has big boobs.

2220: Editing complete, contacting SHAFT.

0130 (3rd Nov): Staff preview with 4 SHAFT staff, 2 editors and 2 Aniplex staff. They also seem to be having some server issues.

0220: The following tasks still has to be done.
1. Transfer to tape
2. Return to office
3. Get working
4. Encode
5. Test-upload and perform checks.

Earliest possible time of release = 0800.

"The final product is as good as the amount of time you've spent waiting."


0530: The staff has returned to the office to start work and encode.

These guys have had no sleep tonight.
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Old 2009-11-02, 16:07   Link #28
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These guys have had no sleep tonight.
Hmmm what if they air the wrong episode by mistake due to lack of sleep.....
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Old 2009-11-02, 16:12   Link #29
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Hmmm what if they air the wrong episode by mistake due to lack of sleep.....
Not all is lost for you. Even if they died off, you'll have uncensored Cecily to look forward to in a few months.

Is SHAFT busy this autumn season? I'm surprised the staff didn't get the clips until 2000.
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Old 2009-11-02, 16:21   Link #30
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The runup seems to be a trainwreck.

2nd November, 1957 hours: Arrived at editing room.

2000: Commence high-speed sorting of clips coming in from SHAFT.

2200: Finally connected to the server to update. The hit count of the day is over 500,000. Editing still in progress. Hanekawa has big boobs.

2220: Editing complete, contacting SHAFT.

0130 (3rd Nov): Staff preview with 4 SHAFT staff, 2 editors and 2 Aniplex staff. They also seem to be having some server issues.

0220: The following tasks still has to be done.
1. Transfer to tape
2. Return to office
3. Get working
4. Encode
5. Test-upload and perform checks.

Earliest possible time of release = 0800.

"The final product is as good as the amount of time you've spent waiting."


0530: The staff has returned to the office to start work and encode.

These guys have had no sleep tonight.
Shaft and time management don't seem to go well together.

Hopefully the episode is really well done. (new OP and maybe a new ED?)
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Old 2009-11-02, 16:28   Link #31
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Not all is lost for you. Even if they died off, you'll have uncensored Cecily to look forward to in a few months.
lol yes yes looking forward to that!


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Is SHAFT busy this autumn season? I'm surprised the staff didn't get the clips until 2000.
Was just thinking about that a while ago, anyway I think they might have been busy with the DVDs/Blu-rays and all.....
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Old 2009-11-02, 17:21   Link #32
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The runup seems to be a trainwreck.

2nd November, 1957 hours: Arrived at editing room.

2000: Commence high-speed sorting of clips coming in from SHAFT.

2200: Finally connected to the server to update. The hit count of the day is over 500,000. Editing still in progress. Hanekawa has big boobs.

2220: Editing complete, contacting SHAFT.

0130 (3rd Nov): Staff preview with 4 SHAFT staff, 2 editors and 2 Aniplex staff. They also seem to be having some server issues.

0220: The following tasks still has to be done.
1. Transfer to tape
2. Return to office
3. Get working
4. Encode
5. Test-upload and perform checks.

Earliest possible time of release = 0800.

"The final product is as good as the amount of time you've spent waiting."


0530: The staff has returned to the office to start work and encode.

These guys have had no sleep tonight.
Are you saying that SHAFT is saying that the episode is delayed until NOV 3? Shit. It was suppose to air on 10/28. They had four weeks to work on it. It gets delayed 4 more days and here is NOV 2, the scheduled day, and nothing yet.

Wow, everyone always says that SHAFT is really bad at managing their time. They are right. It is odd to see such unprofessional behavior from a large business.


SHAFT,

I really love your show. I am glad that your DVD/BluRay sales are through the roof. Please use a little bit of your profit to hire extra staff.

Love,

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Old 2009-11-02, 17:23   Link #33
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My God. Two pages and the epsiode hasn't even aired yet.
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Old 2009-11-02, 18:07   Link #34
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A bit past 8:00 AM JST right now, isn't it? Front page of the site don't look any different...
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Old 2009-11-02, 18:09   Link #35
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A bit past 8:00 AM JST right now, isn't it? Front page of the site don't look any different...
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I feel like I'm getting trolled big time.
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Old 2009-11-02, 18:15   Link #36
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Well, according to X10A_Freedom's post, that's the "earliest possible time of release," so I suppose some last minute delays were to be expected. Unfortunately we don't have a "latest possible time of release"...
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Old 2009-11-02, 18:19   Link #37
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Well the encode was around 40% at about 7:30 and the time to completion kept increasing...I'm just glad I know what happens even though I'm still looking forward to the episode.
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Old 2009-11-02, 18:20   Link #38
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A bit past 8:00 AM JST right now, isn't it? Front page of the site don't look any different...
Seems that the encode is slower than expected (). It was around 40% done at 07:30


But I'm using google trans so I'm not really sure...
http://blog.bakemonogatari.com/

Edit: OK, beaten by ickem
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Old 2009-11-02, 19:23   Link #39
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皆様、おはようございます。

既に今日と呼ぶには時間が経ち過ぎ大変申し訳ないですが、エンコード作業、引き続き継続中です 。

ただ、編集スタジオを出るのが予想よりも遅くなり、きちんとエンコードしたものを制作し、かつチェックを含 めると、ご覧いただけるのは12時前後になってしまいそうな状況です・・・。。

(現在、エンコード作業の40%を終了しております)



お届けする時間が延び延びになってしまい、楽しみにして頂いている方には非常に申し訳ないですが、今暫しお 待ちいただければ幸いです。

何卒よろしくお願いいたします
This is the last update...

They only finish 40% of encoding the material.
SHAFT !!!! Hopefully, the episode is as great as our patience to wait for the delay...
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Old 2009-11-02, 19:26   Link #40
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I think that's more the issue with the speed of the computer that's doing the encoding (I can't imagine the process involves doing anything manually). No matter how much you try, the machine just isn't going to go any faster... :\
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