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View Poll Results: Umineko no Naku Koro ni - Episode 18 Rating
Perfect 10 95 49.22%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 52 26.94%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 23 11.92%
7 out of 10 : Good 10 5.18%
6 out of 10 : Average 4 2.07%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 1 0.52%
4 out of 10 : Poor 2 1.04%
3 out of 10 : Bad 1 0.52%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 1 0.52%
1 out of 10 : Painful 4 2.07%
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Old 2009-11-02, 02:11   Link #321
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Btw....

I was thinking: If Nanjo tried to kill Jessica, and Jessica acted out of self -defense, would it means she's not the murderer of Nanjo?
New theory of "Jesica- the final culprit, manipulating Nanjo and Kanon to carry her order...." in the making ^^

@Marion: ic . She play cute loli role in the anime through
There are much, much more gruesome reasons to think that Maria is otherwise.
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Old 2009-11-02, 02:26   Link #322
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Btw....

I was thinking: If Nanjo tried to kill Jessica, and Jessica acted out of self -defense, would it means she's not the murderer of Nanjo?
New theory of "Jesica- the final culprit, manipulating Nanjo and Kanon to carry her order...." in the making ^^

@Marion: ic . She play cute loli role in the anime through
Well Kanon is dead - remember Jessica was in a state of hysteria and she couldn't see. She could have easily imagined Kanon was there, or maybe someone tricked her into thinking they were Kanon and got her away.
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Old 2009-11-02, 02:52   Link #323
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Just watched the last four episodes in a row and man was that very interesting and good. I was at the end of my seat during the whole watching, very nicely layed out, I loved every minute of it. I couldn't believe Battler was almost tricked into submitting by the witches (damn they were working together >.<), what a fast one to pull. During the whole course of events after Beato got bitch slapped, I believed in the whole act she was playing and I even started sympathizing for her. Damn... I was fooled... thank god Ange came to the rescue when it was neccesery, its was good move on Bernkastel's part. Anyway this episode deserves a 10 and thats what its getting. I can't wait to the next arc to start, Ange looks so cute and awesome, looking forward to seeing more of her.

Btw, I'm an anime viewer only so no VN knowledge though I plan to play the game soon so ya...
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Old 2009-11-02, 03:31   Link #324
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it's just the battle between the teacher and Beatrice, you enjoy the ride so much and at the end of it it's like "wait, ain't I suppose to disprove the work of witches?" XD
The introduction of the third party certainly helped Beato's cause.

i love it when the story misguide you that you totally forgot what your original objective is
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Old 2009-11-02, 07:25   Link #325
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Well that's the whole thing. In the VN she was creepy and freaky without the facial distortions. Anime uses her facial distortions so much that she becomes less creepy and more silly.
but i am talking about her facial expressions too, i remember how VN describes it and its not any diferrent from anime. Its also the same in manga. i think thats just the way its supposed to be
oh, btw i didnt see her creepy anime faces for a while :< third arc wasnt happy for Maria ;<
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Old 2009-11-02, 08:08   Link #326
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Btw....

I was thinking: If Nanjo tried to kill Jessica, and Jessica acted out of self -defense, would it means she's not the murderer of Nanjo?
New theory of "Jesica- the final culprit, manipulating Nanjo and Kanon to carry her order...." in the making ^^
There are many many red truths that were cut in this episodes. Eva-Beatrice literally bombarded Battler with red truths excluding even the most improbable theories.

One of the things she thought is that Battler could resort by postulating different personalities, so that Jessica Eva or Battler didn't do it themselves because a different personality took over their bodies, and therefore technically it was someone else who did the murders. So Eva-Beatrice before Battler could say it, she specified that Eva, Battler and Beatrice didn't physically have anything to do with the murder, their bodies didn't do it.


Anyway there's always been at least two possible theories to get around Eva-Beatrice's perfect web of red truths.
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Old 2009-11-02, 09:45   Link #327
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well, if you ignore teh metaworld as if it did not exist (like in higurashi) batler is hardly a main character.
But...why would you do that?
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Old 2009-11-02, 20:22   Link #328
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Back when the anime as not yet released we even considered the posibility of deen cutting the meta wrld, especially remembering how horribly they butchered higurashi.
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Old 2009-11-02, 20:32   Link #329
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Wow!
I just stumbled upon this and man am I glad that i did, it really went above and beyond my expectations. I wouldn't mind praising it more but I'm sure that I'd just be iterating whats already been said, anyway I'm definitely stoked for the continuation. / Heh, just had to vent that...
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Old 2009-11-03, 02:21   Link #330
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Back when the anime as not yet released we even considered the posibility of deen cutting the meta wrld, especially remembering how horribly they butchered higurashi.
I was not here before the anime was released, but as I was reading the VN, I was wondering to myself if they would cut the meta world o.o Thought it would be a shame if they were to do so...
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Old 2009-11-03, 06:42   Link #331
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how could they possibly cut meta world? o_O
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Old 2009-11-03, 08:14   Link #332
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Did Kanon take Jessica to the same room where Georga and Shannon corpses were found i mean 07151129 room bcoz as i remembered before the battle between Beato and Evatrice, Beato locked the room on Kanon & Jessica and the number was there on the door. so do you think it is the same room or another room?
personally, i think it's the same room and this is leading us to think of many theories about the identity of killer?

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Old 2009-11-03, 08:32   Link #333
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In the original sound novel, Beatrice does take Jessica to the parlor where Shannon & George were found (and where Eva shoots Battler).
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Old 2009-11-03, 08:46   Link #334
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In the original sound novel, Beatrice does take Jessica to the parlor where Shannon & George were found (and where Eva shoots Battler).
Eh wut? In the original sound novel Kanon is "revived" like in the anime and takes Jessica (who first doesn't really want to) to the parlor. On the way to the parlor Ronove who is with Eva-Beatrice spots them and helps them. He makes there privacy barrier stronger. (it is also revealed that Kanon/Shannon powers are copies from Ronove's). Then Kanon and Jess get to parlor and Kanon tells her to hide in the curtains. Then Beato shows up. She kinda teases both of them "A secret meeting in the curtains, how sly of you two", both thank her and then she goes outside and seals the door.
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Brain fart, it was Kanon who took Jessica there; I was focusing on the part that Battler is killed there.
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Old 2009-11-03, 08:55   Link #336
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Regarding the portrait issue, I'm assuming they'll just use the current OP with the Beatrice portrait from the first one (which will still make it a new variation and a 'fourth OP'), since that's the portrait used in the VN EP4. While it'd be awesome to see an Ange portrait, it'd be a little bizarre for the portraits in 1986 to be changed to the Ange of 1998. Also, they'd have to get something squared away with the original portrait artist, as already said. A Bern portrait would also be pretty cool.

Though I'm really liking the idea of the EP4 DVD cover portrait being used now, even though I initially thought that'd be ridiculous since some characters are sticking out of it...if they had a way to animate that, it'd be awesome, but this is also DEEN we're talking about with their famous budget, sooo...I'm expecting the EP3 OP animation with a simple portrait swap to the original Beato portrait.
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Old 2009-11-03, 12:09   Link #337
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so what? And Eva on the gameboard wasnt fifteen something girl but a MILF and she still became Beato, and btw Bern already called her "Ange Beatrice" so, whats the problem with her being one?
Sorry for the late reply, but...
Spoiler for different areas of Umineko:

Was I clear enough? My first language is not English so I'm not that good at it.

PD. If anyone considers this should be edited or removed, please do tell me so and I will.

EDIT: What KanonTheFurniture said above me supports what I just explained, actually.
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Old 2009-11-03, 12:14   Link #338
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What you basically said is right. ANGE only can be in the Meta-World, never actually on Rokkenjima during 1986.
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Old 2009-11-03, 15:07   Link #339
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There is probably another option for a portrait. Virgilia was also a Beatrice at one time. And there is always that chance...live Eva, that someone else will become "Beatrice" in this arc. Not just Ange (who've people discounted due to her being from 1998) or the 4th Game cover which would have to be animated to work.
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Old 2009-11-03, 15:34   Link #340
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Sorry for the late reply, but...
Spoiler for different areas of Umineko:

Was I clear enough? My first language is not English so I'm not that good at it.

PD. If anyone considers this should be edited or removed, please do tell me so and I will.

EDIT: What KanonTheFurniture said above me supports what I just explained, actually.
you say she cant be Beatrice because people on gameboard wont consider her one?
but i wasnt looking at that perspective. meta or not she is still Ange Beatrice in fourth game and since beatrices have portraits i just think it would be cool if she got one too -_-
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Though I'm really liking the idea of the EP4 DVD cover portrait being used now, even though I initially thought that'd be ridiculous since some characters are sticking out of it...if they had a way to animate that, it'd be awesome
this would indeed be awesome too


whatever, just dont switch back to Beatos old boring portrait please *gulp*
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