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View Poll Results: Umineko no Naku Koro ni - Episode 20 Rating
Perfect 10 22 16.54%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 22 16.54%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 33 24.81%
7 out of 10 : Good 29 21.80%
6 out of 10 : Average 16 12.03%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 7 5.26%
4 out of 10 : Poor 1 0.75%
3 out of 10 : Bad 1 0.75%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 1 0.75%
1 out of 10 : Painful 1 0.75%
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Old 2009-11-11, 14:40   Link #21
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Did Virgilia sign that as "Warugiria" or is that just the beginning of some other word? O.o
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Old 2009-11-11, 14:43   Link #22
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Did Virgilia sign that as "Warugiria" or is that just the beginning of some other word? O.o
I find it funny that she signed it as anything, considering the fact that she doesn't get the name "Virgilia" until she comes up with it in Battler's presence
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Old 2009-11-11, 14:55   Link #23
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Hyper blurred! I hoped it was better, but well... at this point there's really only a word that I can't fully understand.

Here it goes. Mind however that this is kinda broken italian, words in bold are words that do not make any sense in the context

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Dichiarazione

Sakutarou creare una strega
apprendista che avrebbe acquisito un
potere della sconosciuta. Ci deve
consentire la magia felice di Maria
prega che sia per sempre Sakutarou
per celebrare la ragione della sua
esistenza si deve fare la seguente
dichiarazione aria prega che sia per
sempre
Con questa dichiarazione, tu,
consentire ai singoli di avere ego,
Sakutarou.
E Seguo* il trattato di Mariage
Sorciere, accolgo con favore come
un amico per la loro presenza
*This one is probably "Eseguo". I don't get why there are two capital letters.

translating it would become something like this:

Quote:
Declaration

To create Sakutarou an apprentice witch who acquired the power of the unknown must allow us Maria's happy magic. Pray that it will be forever. Sakutarou to celebrate the reason of his existence the following declaration must be made, pray that it will be forever.
With this declaration you allow the single persons to have Sakutarou.
I make the treaty of Mariage Sorciere. I gladly receive him as a friend for their presence.
BTW the italian handwriting is definitely the same of Beatrice's signature. However the part in japanese seems different, it looks like the same as the one who is signing with "Waru..."
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Old 2009-11-11, 15:08   Link #24
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Not exactly the best episode ever... my two favorite Ange scenes was ruined

Spoiler for thoughts:

Would say it was decent/good
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Old 2009-11-11, 15:13   Link #25
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A shame I'm the only one who enjoyed the flashbacks.

Oh well, at least I can gravitate to the 1 score to help balance out all the 9s.

I will say this. If not for my forced balancing, I would have given this episode a 4 or even a 6 because they kept the Witch-Hunt shoutout.
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Old 2009-11-11, 15:25   Link #26
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Hah, you voted the episode a 1 before you even watched it anyway, no need to make up stories.
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Old 2009-11-11, 15:27   Link #27
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Ugh... i must have to say... This is the only episode I don't fully approve of >_<
Like Geekodot said, the 5 second flash back killed one of my favorite ange scene T_T
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Old 2009-11-11, 15:28   Link #28
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A shame I'm the only one who enjoyed the flashbacks.

Oh well, at least I can gravitate to the 1 score to help balance out all the 9s.

I will say this. If not for my forced balancing, I would have given this episode a 4 or even a 6 because they kept the Witch-Hunt shoutout.
Dude this is not myanimelist, you don't get an average of all the votes in the end. Your vote doesn't balance anything, it just gets ignored.
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Old 2009-11-11, 15:29   Link #29
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Hmm...

Spoiler for REVIEW:



This Ep was ... boring.
Too much talk.
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Old 2009-11-11, 15:29   Link #30
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Dude this is not myanimelist, you don't get a mean of all the votes. Your vote doesn't balance anything, it just gets ignored.
He must think he's Mordenkainen or something.
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Old 2009-11-11, 15:32   Link #31
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I'm sad that no one cares about my favorite scene from the flashbacks, the one where Rosa doesn't come back to Maria until she finds the letter with "Let's share our happiness" they cut it and made up on the spot. But overall it was pretty good so I won't whine that much (though the question of Ange's existence was my second favorite scene in the flashbacks... rawr!) I don't mind them cutting the stake scene since I didn't like it anyway but it will mislead Ange's character even further for the viewer

8 overall, Deen can handle bright colors better I guess, while the dark scenes fail to create any atmosphere imo there were some pretty nice examples in this episode.
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Old 2009-11-11, 15:49   Link #32
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This Ep was ... boring.
Too much talk.
... and to think, there was still a lot that was cut and condensed. Just goes to show you how looooong EP4 of the VN was. owo;
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Old 2009-11-11, 15:50   Link #33
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This episode is just...I'm not even going to bother :|

Episode started off very well and Mammon's VA sounds good, as well at Otsuki (congrats to Witch Hunt getting mentioned in the anime as well). Sakutaro was hnnggggg and all.

Lambda's scene was reduced to incredibly low levels - she didn't even troll Ange she was just telling her off. I swear I think DEEN just hates Lambda, because every scene she's been in so far as been drastically shortened and at times ruins her characterization. And Ange didn't even look like she had a hard time summoning the stakes, when in reality she was struggling just to keep conscious through the entire thing while Mammon kept pressuring her.

Although I'm sad they let the bully scene become just another flash back my real big problem is that they don't even mention a HUGE hint for EP 3

Spoiler for The 'hint':


Episode gets a 6/10. A pretty average episode in general - it started off well and cute, but then it kinda went down.
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Old 2009-11-11, 15:50   Link #34
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Not too bad, but anime-only viewers would probably find it a bit boring.

Then again, I can definitely see where the next episode is heading, and should make up for what I perceive to be its flaws.
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Old 2009-11-11, 15:56   Link #35
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Spoiler for no spoiler just image:
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Old 2009-11-11, 15:59   Link #36
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Why does the voting poll need balancing again? I must have missed the reason for that somewhere.

What logical purpose does it serve?
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Old 2009-11-11, 16:10   Link #37
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That was from last episode and is not QUALITY because it was an in-between animation. All in-between animation looks crazy so yeah.
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Old 2009-11-11, 16:15   Link #38
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That was from last episode and is not QUALITY because it was an in-between animation. All in-between animation looks crazy so yeah.
sorry wrong board hahaha i just relized and i never said anything about quality i just lol'd
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Old 2009-11-11, 16:32   Link #39
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Okay, so that scene really was a flashback and I wasn't just hearing things from Ange (not that I could've interpreted it any other way from just seeing it, but...)

Ugh that sucks :/. It's been so long since DEEN's done big/badly done cuts like that. I'm hoping they put more of it in somehow next episode and what they showed was just something to make the timeline less confusing, but I highly doubt it.

As much as I thought this part was too long in the VN, and I'm glad they're cutting stuff, once again they're making cuts that also cut the emotion and everything seems like a bland line of important events :/.

6.5/10, rounding up to 7 because at least Sakutaro was adorable :3
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Old 2009-11-11, 17:37   Link #40
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Hasn't anyone actually tought the breaking stakes scene is next episode??? it was just Ange remembering it. That scene can't be cut after all.
Spoiler for spoiler:
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