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View Poll Results: Umineko no Naku Koro ni - Episode 20 Rating
Perfect 10 22 16.54%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 22 16.54%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 33 24.81%
7 out of 10 : Good 29 21.80%
6 out of 10 : Average 16 12.03%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 7 5.26%
4 out of 10 : Poor 1 0.75%
3 out of 10 : Bad 1 0.75%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 1 0.75%
1 out of 10 : Painful 1 0.75%
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Old 2009-11-11, 17:40   Link #41
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Will need to wait for subs to accurately judge how much of the info was kept, but all things considered it wasn't nearly as bad as I was expecting (based on the preview). There's only one scene I was REALLY upset to see ruined, while for the rest, well, couldn't exactly expect them to keep the depth of the VN, and all things considered I think they did well...

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Overall I expected a pretty boring episode, so it didn't betray my expectations too much. They did better than I thought on some of the flashbacks, and didn't really do worse on the ones I expected to be butchered either way, especially since none of the important stuff was cut altogether (though the stake denial scene may as well have been). Boring VN flashbacks overall, so naturally we'd get a pretty boring Anime episode out of them, but things will start to kick into gear next week, and that's what I'm looking forward to.

Not rating it until I see the subs, but I'll probably give it a 7, for being better than I expected.
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Old 2009-11-11, 17:42   Link #42
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Lambda's scene was reduced to incredibly low levels - she didn't even troll Ange she was just telling her off. I swear I think DEEN just hates Lambda, because every scene she's been in so far as been drastically shortened and at times ruins her characterization. And Ange didn't even look like she had a hard time summoning the stakes, when in reality she was struggling just to keep conscious through the entire thing while Mammon kept pressuring her.
Best review from this episode, poor lambda deen really hate her.

I cant`t beleive some people give a 10 to this episode.
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Old 2009-11-11, 18:12   Link #43
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Why is everybody saying they cut the 'bully scene'? Doesn't it actually happen later?
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Old 2009-11-11, 18:16   Link #44
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Is Human Sakutarou still voiced by Minori Chiharha?
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Old 2009-11-11, 18:42   Link #45
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Why is everybody saying they cut the 'bully scene'? Doesn't it actually happen later?
I think people are concerned that since they showed a flashback to it in this episode, they will use that as an excuse not to show the actual scene.

I'm not convinced of that myself, but we'll see.
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Old 2009-11-11, 19:00   Link #46
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Well, I was tempted to throw in a 10 just for the WH reference, but my unbiased (or less biased...) rating has to take a couple things into account.

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Old 2009-11-11, 19:12   Link #47
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I wasn't talking about an actual numerical balancing, sheesh.
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Old 2009-11-11, 19:24   Link #48
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Why is everybody saying they cut the 'bully scene'? Doesn't it actually happen later?
You can't really judge whether it's been totally cut until next week, but they showed it in a flashback this week.

Like I said, though, there's still a chance that it might be a narrative device to make the timeline more coherent, because, as you said, it does happen later (in the story, not in the timeline).

I'm disappointed if it is cut and that was all we got, but even if it wasn't...this episode was still really boring (Lambda scene especially) . Wouldn't change my rating either way, now that I think about it.
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Old 2009-11-11, 19:42   Link #49
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Old 2009-11-11, 19:43   Link #50
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I haven't seen the episode yet, but I feel the disappointment of toning down Lambda's personality.

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Maybe they are holding off on Lambda until later for some reason...shock value perhaps? Though both her and Bern are rather lightly used so far.
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Old 2009-11-11, 19:58   Link #52
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The only scene I really have a problem in this episode is the Lambda scene. Aside from that, it was a good adaption. But it's a good adaption of the boring parts of EP4.
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Old 2009-11-11, 20:17   Link #53
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Finished the raw.
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Gave this episode a 7 out of 10. We're two episodes into Episode 4 and we've already arrived at this point. Looks like we'll have plenty of time for the rest of the Episode.
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Old 2009-11-11, 21:55   Link #54
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Maybe they are holding off on Lambda until later for some reason...shock value perhaps? Though both her and Bern are rather lightly used so far.
But Lambda isn't suppose to be surprising that she's evil - at least not after EP 3's tea party.
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Old 2009-11-11, 22:34   Link #55
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I give 3 to chapter, to state very boring and although it fits well have lost all sense of the novel, plus some scenes destroyed ...

deen quality is as bad as ever, where are the big expressions?
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Old 2009-11-12, 01:18   Link #56
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Good episode. Not enough Mammon.
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Old 2009-11-12, 01:58   Link #57
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WAROSU, WAROSU!
Doll turning into a human... No thanks, no thanks, Ryukishi.

Ange... Why are you even showing hesitation? Yeah, Schrondinger's Cat or whatever, but even if it isn't you, at least another you gets to have your brother back, right? Or is it fine that your brother stays dead? At least do it for his sake.
Looking forward to see how she reacts to what 34 said, but I hope she doesn't fall for her proposal...
Still... Get away from the witch business, Ange... You should know that people who talk to stuffed animals as if they were real and etc., etc. should just be reported to the hospital... Anyways, Maria --> Hospital, the talk can come later...
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Old 2009-11-12, 04:15   Link #58
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DEEN did go light-speed in this episode, did they not? Anyhow, I won't complain about this, as long as I get my cake in the final episodes.

Also, lol at Warugiria.

Anyway, Umineko has many nice BGMs, why can't DEEN use more of them? If I remember correctly, miragecoordinator was supposed to play during the scene Lamdadelta met Ange. Oh well...
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Old 2009-11-12, 04:16   Link #59
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Not at all. This episode only covered 3 chapters.

19 covered 4 plus the prologue.
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Old 2009-11-12, 04:23   Link #60
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That doesn't say much considering how different are some chapters length-wise. This is specially true for the school chapters in this arc.
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