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Old 2009-11-11, 17:16   Link #22021
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suzaku likes being hurt, kallen enjoys hurting him
a perfect match

besides, its debatable how much she actually hates him by the show's end
even though I'm far from being a Suzaku fan (but, objectively, he is a nice character) that one gets a +1 .. either hate sex playing on Suzakus glaring masochism OR they sorta make up and maybe romance/friends with benefits ... or Gino x Kallen
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Old 2009-11-11, 17:21   Link #22022
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even though I'm far from being a Suzaku fan (but, objectively, he is a nice character) that one gets a +1 .. either hate sex playing on Suzakus glaring masochism OR they sorta make up and maybe romance/friends with benefits ... or Gino x Kallen
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Old 2009-11-11, 17:22   Link #22023
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Old 2009-11-12, 21:06   Link #22024
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...She still hates him.
I don't believe it... But to start to think of him as more than a friend is waaaay too much...

Not a big surprise to see Blade, the biggest defender of Suzakallen since Lelouch is dead, talking about that though, hehe.
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Old 2009-11-13, 04:52   Link #22025
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*covers ears* La la la, must not be offended by the Suzaku/Kallen or Gino/Kallen.
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Old 2009-11-13, 04:54   Link #22026
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hate sex
suzaku likes being hurt, kallen enjoys hurting him
a perfect match

besides, its debatable how much she actually hates him by the show's end
you should already know my views on the subject if you've been keeping track of the thread in the past
Self-destructive relationship, much?
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Old 2009-11-13, 05:16   Link #22027
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you focus on the first part of my post (the joke part) and not on the second one
i dont think any relationship between them would be self-destructive (though its might destroy some furniture on praticulary good nights )
its debateable how much she hates him at this stage
i'd say that if anything, their relationship would have a very healthy dose of respect between them
and i'd say that he's probably the most likely candidate for her should she choose to move on at some point
at least more then any other character in the show

now whether or not she WOULD choose to move on is quite a different question
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Old 2009-11-13, 06:54   Link #22028
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you focus on the first part of my post (the joke part) and not on the second one
i dont think any relationship between them would be self-destructive (though its might destroy some furniture on praticulary good nights )
its debateable how much she hates him at this stage
i'd say that if anything, their relationship would have a very healthy dose of respect between them
and i'd say that he's probably the most likely candidate for her should she choose to move on at some point
at least more then any other character in the show

now whether or not she WOULD choose to move on is quite a different question
Okay, I understand your point of view. I just don't like Suzaku very much is all.
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Old 2009-11-13, 06:57   Link #22029
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why ?
specifically ?
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Old 2009-11-13, 07:16   Link #22030
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why ?
specifically ?
Well, from the standard list,

-He's a hypocrite, betraying stated beliefs for various reasons (unforgivable in Code Geass)
-He's a traitor to his blood (unforgivable)
-He has abanded ideals/persons he's sworn to above all else, generally after an event of great stress/shock (unforgivable again)
-Doesn't wear black/have ever-increasing boobs (the real reason)



(Tongue in cheek... right? Right?)


Edit: 'Lion's Den Complex', FFN. Look it up, and cry.
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Old 2009-11-13, 07:17   Link #22031
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does all that still count after the ending ?
he even wears black

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i did
i fucking hated it to no end
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Old 2009-11-13, 07:23   Link #22032
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does all that still count after the ending ?
he even wears black
Well, by that time everyone already had their views, so the fact that everyone but him and Lelouch and Orange were fighting for a person with mass murder as a stated policy goal sort of got ignorred.
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Not pretty, is it?
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Old 2009-11-13, 07:23   Link #22033
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Oh god I'm going to get into a fight, I just know it.

Specifically: I think he's a bad character. Suzaku is the type of character that in canon does everything perfectly and pretty much everybody likes and the writers were like "Nobody likes these type of characters so let's give him a muddled background!" And thus tortured!face "I killed my father". And you know what I still can't remember why he killed his father...to stop a war? A kid wouldn't be able to grasp that concept, they're too busy playing Xbox, okay. Kids only kill their parents when they hate them, which brings me to the Suzaku was diddled by his daddy theory. It would explain for that sultry jazz music that always played in his memories. I do however semi-like him in fanfiction, his character's emotions and actions are much better explained.
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Old 2009-11-13, 07:28   Link #22034
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Well, by that time everyone already had their views, so the fact that everyone but him and Lelouch and Orange were fighting for a person with mass murder as a stated policy goal sort of got ignorred.
stated to whom ?

and i'm talking about after zero-requiem specifically
i'm talking about zero-zaku

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because whoever wrote it has a very emo grasp of the characters

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Oh god I'm going to get into a fight, I just know it.

Specifically: I think he's a bad character. Suzaku is the type of character that in canon does everything perfectly and pretty much everybody likes and the writers were like "Nobody likes these type of characters so let's give him a muddled background!" And thus tortured!face "I killed my father". And you know what I still can't remember why he killed his father...to stop a war? A kid wouldn't be able to grasp that concept, they're too busy playing Xbox, okay. Kids only kill their parents when they hate them, which brings me to the Suzaku was diddled by his daddy theory. It would explain for that sultry jazz music that always played in his memories. I do however semi-like him in fanfiction, his character's emotions and actions are much better explained.
no need to fight
i just wondered what about him you dont like AS A CHARACTER
not about how he was written

if you dont like him based on how he was written there aint much i can say about it
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Well, it's a good thing there isn't another character with extreme physical/piloting skills without Lelouch's strategic genius who had a disfunctional relationship with his/her parents, including father. You'd probably have to hate them to, right?

Plus, he still lacks tits.
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Old 2009-11-13, 07:32   Link #22036
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stated to whom ?
Schneizel.

Well, it was stated in private, but it was more of a figure of speech.


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and i'm talking about after zero-requiem specifically
i'm talking about zero-zaku
Considering how many fanfics have him giving up/failing/being taken over by the spirit of Zero itself, I don't think most people like it either.
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That IS as a character. And he's a hypocrite, always giving us "look at my bum" fanservice, stealing Lelouch's women, etc etc.
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Schneizel.

Well, it was stated in private, but it was more of a figure of speech.
you are also wrong about the "everyone but him and Lelouch and Orange were fighting for a person with mass murder as a stated policy goal" part
the war isnt between lelouch and Schneizel
the war is between britannia and the UFN

the black knights were not fighting for Schneizel
the black knights were fighting for the UFN and against lelouch
Schneizel was the one fighting FOR THEIR SIDE and AGAINST HIS
he just had a hidden agenda of his own

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Considering how many fanfics have him giving up/failing/being taken over by the spirit of Zero itself, I don't think most people like it either.
i dont know much about that kinda perception
i'd rather think he'd try his best to act as a mediator between conflicting people in the future (thats what lelouch left him to do)
if he has to actually lead people in battle
then he failed his main role
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Well, it's a good thing there isn't another character with extreme physical/piloting skills without Lelouch's strategic genius who had a disfunctional relationship with his/her parents, including father. You'd probably have to hate them to, right?

Plus, he still lacks tits.
Blahblahblah Maybe that character was better written?/Didn't conflict with my BELIEFS!/had tits/I related more to.
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That IS as a character. And he's a hypocrite, always giving us "look at my bum" fanservice, stealing Lelouch's women, etc etc.
What's the fixation that he's a hypocrit? All the 'good' characters are hypocrits and traitors in this show.

Only woman of Lelouch that he stole, as far as I can recal, was Euphie, if you consider incest best.

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you are also wrong about the "everyone but him and Lelouch and Orange were fighting for a person with mass murder as a stated policy goal" part
the war isnt between lelouch and Schneizel
the war is between britannia and the UFN

the black knights were not fighting for Schneizel
the black knights were fighting for the UFN and against lelouch
Schneizel was the one fighting FOR THEIR SIDE and AGAINST HIS
he just had a hidden agenda of his own
Schneizel was their leader, and was the one who was going to benefit most from victory. Whether they realized it or not, they were fighting for his benefit, not their own.


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Blahblahblah Maybe that character was better written?/Didn't conflict with my BELIEFS!/had tits/I related more to.
So it's official: Suzaku needed to be a girl, added to Lelouch's harem, and he would be far more popular.

Not sure about the beliefs aspect, since I'll take a gander that your beliefs don't support terrorist-insurgency or (multiple) bodyguard betrayal either.
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