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Old 2009-12-04, 02:10   Link #5181
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You found the first pages, eh? Awesome!

Why does Nagi look like she's sacrificing herself? Perhaps she has a feeling that even after she saves Hayate from the torment of choosing between them, that he'll go on Athena's side? Damn... perceptive kid... it might just be true..

Hayate probably will go check on Athena now to see if Midas left. Will Nagi take that as a goodbye, even though he might return back? What if he gets stuck at Athena's place (perhaps even against his will), and in the morning everyone leaves? Nagi might tell everyone that she's taking a special jet with Maria and Hayate, so they wouldn't worry.

Hmhmhmm... I'm complicating things again! Hehe!



Nagi will be disinherited after Mikado gets wind of the developments. Remember, it doesn't matter who does it, only Hayate may hold it. If he gave it to Nagi for 24 hours the same rule would apply. Nagi shouldn't even know about it! Basically it's Hayate's fault for "losing" it. Even though he probably just gave it to her after she kindly asked him.
But then, where does all that money go then? The money is supposed to go to the one who breaks/steals it.
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Old 2009-12-04, 02:26   Link #5182
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Of course something like that wouldn't work! Hayate could have given the gem to Nagi to break right before Mikado just as he got it, or after the rules have changed (they could visit him again at any time).

Besidesss.... I don't see any proof! I don't see a written contract or anything.. it's just something that Mikado said. Words... promises can be twisted around in such despicable ways that Mikado would be the one that benefits the most.

If some stranger accidentally broke it without even knowing what he's done, would Mikado really give him his vast fortune? Yeah, right! He's a damn good troll....

Perhaps he foresaw this? What if he sees Athena as a rival? Someone that can beat him to the RG. A threat..? Maybe he doesn't want Hayate to go on Athena's side. Hayate believes that Nagi's life depends on her money (literally that she's so spoiled that she can't live without her fortune anymore, or some messed up logic like that..) and now, after the gem shattered to bits and pieces.. Athena should be free. Athena has Machina, she has some kind of otherworldly powers and assets that rival those of the Sanzen'in. Nagi on the other hand.. is now a normal girl that needs protection from him. Hhmhmmhm...

But... that doesn't make sense..

If Athena is free from Midas, and if Hayate stays on Nagi's side now more than ever after what she's done (you could call it a sacrifice... you could also say that she saved Athena, but what if she was just afraid that Hayate would leave her?), what does Mikado gain from all of this?

Maybe Mikado had nothing to do with this after all... maybe it was all Nagi... hmm..

Ah, too much thinking.. I'm feeling dizzy...
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Old 2009-12-04, 02:28   Link #5183
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Why does Nagi look like she's sacrificing herself? Perhaps she has a feeling that even after she saves Hayate from the torment of choosing between them, that he'll go on Athena's side? Damn... perceptive kid... it might just be true..
I'm not sure on this but I don't think Nagi knows of the relationship between Athena and Hayate, and Hayate's torment of choosing. It was more like she felt that the stone was like, you know, making Hayate unhappy and she broke it because she doesn't want him to feel upset.
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If Athena is free from Midas, and if Hayate stays on Nagi's side now more than ever after what she's done (you could call it a sacrifice... you could also say that she saved Athena, but what if she was just afraid that Hayate would leave her?), what does Mikado gain from all of this?
To me what Nagi said was hard to refuse than her actual actions. Like the way someone says something and makes you feel its hard to refuse (ie. You call your boy/girlfriend and wants to break up but he/she says the date you had with him/her was great and wishes to go on another one before you can say let's break up). I don't think Nagi's afraid of losing him, the reason should be the above. Not sure what Mikado wants though, probably just toy around with Hayate for his amusement.
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Old 2009-12-04, 02:41   Link #5184
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I'm not sure I quite understand what you mean... since I don't know what she said in the first place.

Uhm.. basically... Nagi wanted to stop his suffering, even at the price of him leaving?

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Emiya Shirou: Could you dumb it down for me?
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Old 2009-12-04, 02:45   Link #5185
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I'm not sure I quite understand what you mean... since I don't know what she said in the first place.

Uhm.. basically... Nagi wanted to stop his suffering, even at the price of him leaving?

...

Emiya Shirou: Could you dumb it down for me?
What she said was literally: I've been protected by money all this time. From here on in the future, you'll be the one to protect me. (Not said in an ordering manner).

I don't really understand what you mean by Hayate leaving. If you mean that Nagi feels Hayate will side with Athena, I don't think she's even aware of their relationship, or if you mean that Hayate will leave now since she can no longer hire him, what she said will probably make him stay.
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Old 2009-12-04, 02:46   Link #5186
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Spoiler for Translation of pages.:


Now I really feel like I'm back here. Few weeks of rest caused a bit of decrease in my English abilities... I hope I did it all right.
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Old 2009-12-04, 02:48   Link #5187
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Thanks primuler.

Hope it clears up anything you don't understand Rah.
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Old 2009-12-04, 02:58   Link #5188
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*after reading primuler's translation* + Thank you for the translation. ^_^

I take it that it was a selfless act?

... I'm still in doubt. *sigh*

How does Hayate feel about this? Hmm... dammit, this is a good chapter. Hata, I love you more and more! Hahaha!

So... if I didn't misunderstand things again, then next week, or the week after, we'll get a double issue? That's gonna be... beyond words..
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Old 2009-12-04, 02:59   Link #5189
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There were some jokes about breaking the stone with a nutcracker in 2ch forums before... and look what happened here. I wonder what will happen to Maria as well... Will she stay with Nagi or will she be forced to work in Sanzenin mansion, or will she be 'fired'? Her position in the Sanzenin house is pretty ambiguous...
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Old 2009-12-04, 03:12   Link #5190
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I believe that Maria's position by Nagi's side is quite firm. It's true that she's... well... how to put it..?

She doesn't have a goal in life. She was presumably saved by the Sanzen'in's, and cared for, thus she's grateful to them (maybe she's really grateful to Mikado?). I don't know how she feels about Nagi. She knows that Nagi is really fond of her, and she likes her as well, but.... maybe she feels suffocated? Not having a clear goal in life.. well, many people don't, but still..

I guess it depends on Mikado. Maria said that she saved up a hefty amount of money. Her pay is probably ten, or twenty times higher than Hayate's. But.. her maid duty..

Hmm.. well, now she's basically "free" from her responsibilities. She doesn't need to care for Nagi anymore, no matter how grateful she is to her. Nagi even said that one day Maria will leave, and that if it's her wish, she'll let her. Maria needs to try things out.. to explore the world a bit, to find a goal in life perhaps..

But it doesn't have to be now. I think she'll stay by Nagi's side unless Mikado somehow takes her away. He could also do that with Hayate.. hmm..


Well, in short.. I think that Nagi will tell her something like that. That she doesn't need to care for her anymore, that she has Hayate, and that she should live her own life without wasting it on her anymore, or something like that...

Just then it would be really appropriate if she got angry and slapped her for even considering something like that, followed by a hug and Nagi crying as she hugs her back.. happy that she won't leave... haha.. that's overused, but I'd dawwwwwwwwww!! ;_; ^__^
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Old 2009-12-04, 03:13   Link #5191
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I just can't believe it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"About to jump from a bridge"
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Old 2009-12-04, 03:18   Link #5192
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Hey Wolf, ya still here? If you see Hata, bow to him in respect for his work for me as well!
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Old 2009-12-04, 03:26   Link #5193
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What? Nagi the devil? ^_^

Nagi just gave him the gift from heaven. He was praying for a solution which would enable him to save both Athena and Nagi, and this was the resolution. How he has a shot at rescuing Athena, and who says that there's no way for Nagi to find happiness anyway? Or maybe even still attain the inheritance?

The canonic ending (Nagi) has just doubled its points and retaken the lead.
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Old 2009-12-04, 03:33   Link #5194
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Spoiler for Not for Mentar - Lol... just joking xD:


Well yeah, but what are Hayate's feelings? If he still loves Athena more than he's grateful / likes Nagi, then... it's gonna be a pain for her.

By "devil" I only meant that she chose for him. Perhaps he'd done it differently. True that he was tormented and couldn't pick, but in the end he'd have to. It would be quite possibly Athena... Nagi thus stripped him from such a possibility. Now he has no choice but to take her side. Not that it's a bad thing, because she did a great deed..

Also, yay for more Nagi points! lol :]
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What? Nagi the devil? ^_^

Nagi just gave him the gift from heaven. He was praying for a solution which would enable him to save both Athena and Nagi, and this was the resolution. How he has a shot at rescuing Athena, and who says that there's no way for Nagi to find happiness anyway? Or maybe even still attain the inheritance?

The canonic ending (Nagi) has just doubled its points and retaken the lead.
HELL YEAH!!

100% AGREE!

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yay doubled Nagi ending chance!
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Old 2009-12-04, 03:47   Link #5196
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Is a romantic ending really that necesary? Hayate ending up alone or end has quite a high chance of happening too.
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Old 2009-12-04, 04:00   Link #5197
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Umm.. obviously?

Ayumu, Hina, Nagi, Athena, Izumi, possibly Isumi all love Hayate. Their love varies obviously, and then there are other girls that have a sorts of affection towards him like Sakuya, if it isn't love, then Isumi fits here as well.

The latest chapters all revolved around Hayate's decision. He was unable to decide precisely because of his feelings towards the two.

Dead Hayate = Sacrifice to save a loved one? Abandoned perhaps, or assassinated? Naw...
Alone Hayate = Screwed something up BIG TIME to be left alone by all of the above mentioned girls.

I wonder what he'll do now. We don't know if Athena is free from Midas yet, and if that was the real King's Jewel, like I hypothesized that it wasn't, since Mikado didn't seem the least concerned about it, while he desires entry to the RG. Remember how he said that even if he was Santa he wouldn't give him anything... Did he imply that he WAS Santa 10 years ago? Maybe he hid the gem in him somewhere? MAGICAL GIRL MIKADO!! Lol....

Okay, but anyway, Hayate needs closure with Athena, else all other relationships will stay on hold indefinitely.

Perhaps she can tell him that he can do what he wants? That way she'd still stay in the game, since he could also choose her...

We'll see... hehe..
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Spoiler for FUUUUUUUUUU!!!!:



HOLY SHIT!!! I SAID SO!!! NAGIIII!!!!!!! HELL YEAAAAAHHHHH!!!


AHHHHHHHHHH HATAAAAAA YOU GOT ME IN OVERDRIVEEE!!!!! AHAHAHAHAHA!!!! DAAAAAAAAAMNNNNN YOUUUU GIVE ME MORRREEEE!!!
Just came back from jumping down a brigde,
WTH, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,
JUST CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WTH, HAPPEN???
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Yeah, i'm still here,
i'm going to Japan tomorrow on Saturday,
anyway
"shocked like hell"
KILL ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 2009-12-04, 04:18   Link #5199
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Just came back from jumping down a brigde,
WTH, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,
JUST CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WTH, HAPPEN???
I think we've been discussing the happenings of the current spoilers for the past 3 hours. You'll need to read everything that we've discussed if you want the answer to your question.

If it's too confusing for you, I'll shorten it down.

Basically Nagi resolved Hayate's dilemma by breaking the gem, and stating her belief that he'll protect her now that her money can't anymore by putting all her trust in him.

I questioned that before I was given the above explanation, and I'm still questioning it. Perhaps she had a different motive. Well, I said all of this already.

All that remain are more questions.

How does Hayate feel about this?
How will everyone react - especially Maria?
Mikado didn't seem to be bothered if Hayate chose to destroy the gem. Was it the real King's Jewel, or does Hayate have one inside him, since Mikado is somehow connected to his past? Perhaps it's something else entirely...
If it wasn't the real King's Jewel, is Athena still possessed by Midas? Was Nagi's sacrifice useless (although she did it for Hayate, and not for Athena - she doesn't know about his circumstances, just that he was suffering because of it)?

What else? Hmm...
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Just came back from jumping down a brigde,
WTH, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,
JUST CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WTH, HAPPEN???
Edit:
Yeah, i'm still here,
i'm going to Japan tomorrow on Saturday,
anyway
"shocked like hell"
KILL ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WTH with you wolf??

You should be REALLY HAPPY

Nagi shows her maturity!
and she is really the main heroine now!
She solves Hayate's problem even without being told by him!
She realized it herself!!

thats a very cool act!
and really cool words from her!
xD
thats the true oujo-sama..
xD

I really looove this chapter!!
xD
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