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Old 2009-12-05, 20:41   Link #1801
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This is a NOT new archetype. We have seen this archetype in the past. The so called 'classic tsundere's ' had it - go back to 80's and you will see somewhat similar characters Madoka from Kimagure Orange Road or Hayase from Macross, they had less exposed sexuality and bit less bold due to love triangle's but you can see a lot of similarities between the classic tsundere's and this 'new' Hitagi archetype.

Sheryl from Macross F also is pretty similar to this. So I would not consider this a new archetype - just retro archetype with added some contemporary traits (clearly expressed sexiness and even less hesitation).
Exactly, and although I don't like her, she was the type you would dislike to see the main character get, unless you liked his personality too. Having just the right amount of your type of kink in all respects, and is quick on the uptake, no matter how difficult/confusing the situation is. A beautiful, proud, intelligent, young woman who for some reason doesn't really look at guys until our hapless lads come along, and then other people around (this was looked upon during the girls convo during ep. 10) wonder just what the hell happened to change her,or why someone so perfect would go for 'that bum.' Well, that's how I analyze her anyway. Bottom line, these guys happen to just catch their fancy, for whatever reason, while no one has been able to do that. Pretty normal. Nothing new about it.

As to the story, I'll admit I may have been a tad harsh on Shizuku earlier on, just a tad. Though as I saw someone say in this thread, there was such an uneven direction floating in this we could almost call it author/screenwriter favoritism. Mikoto and Akane were almost pulled by a cosmic force to completely deter any attention to matters that do not focus on Natsuru, even when the tension is so thick. Those two aren't stupid, but it makes them look overly shallow, which I do not think they are. Truly, it seems they've been put off as background noise, though, if you're a Shizuku fan you most likely don't mind. Especially here, where the negative traits of the other girls are enhanced, and the positive traits of one girl are increased. If you see your favorite character happens to be progressing so favorably, you tend to just roll with it, no matter how the other characters are portrayed, or that you see them as a mere background noise/annoyances. I'd call it bad character development/design.

Plus, where the heck did that 'if their was a girl other than Kaede he was interested in?' go. Pure Ship Tease I say.

Well its getting pretty serious. Sakura now permanently has a 'just as planned' look on her face. But hmmm. It makes me wonder if she's entirely working of her own accord. She's a masterful actor or something is up. Its just too fishy, and it smells like red herring.

As for the preview: Seriously I hope Mikoto and Akane don't just get slapped down in one hit. That one-hit knockout from the festival was just .
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Old 2009-12-05, 22:47   Link #1802
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!!!!! Shizuku ship is sailing full speed ahead. and it would seem that Sakura is the antagonist (obviously a trap thinking that way, but w/e, she should die). everything is going as planned, since it would seem that Shizuku has a REAL shot at the prize.

and ooh, more Garden of Sinners?
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Old 2009-12-05, 23:09   Link #1803
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Well this episode confirmed my #2 theory about Shizuku and why they targeted her.
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Old 2009-12-06, 00:06   Link #1804
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!!!!! Shizuku ship is sailing full speed ahead. and it would seem that Sakura is the antagonist (obviously a trap thinking that way, but w/e, she should die). everything is going as planned, since it would seem that Shizuku has a REAL shot at the prize.

and ooh, more Garden of Sinners?
oh yeah! just look episode 11 preview in 23.44, Natsuru being pushed down by Kaichou, hope this time she 'seal' him for sure

Go Kaichou! I'll make Sekihan for you

Shizuku: now who's rape who!! *rip Natsuru clothes to pieces*


hmmm three entrail animal already show their other form
1st Chissoku Norainu episode 6 at 12.06
2nd Black Seppuku Bunny episode 8 at 11.18
3rd Kanden Yamaneko episode 10 at 11.06
where Harakiri Tora then?
imagination mode : on
Harakiri Tora human version, girl with Nazi theme blazer outfit complete with eye patch put one of her high-boot-leg to Natsuru back, laughing, holding some steel stick and when they change we see.......S&M style Yuri couple

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Old 2009-12-06, 01:44   Link #1805
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OMG i cant stop getting goosebumps hehehehe
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Old 2009-12-06, 01:47   Link #1806
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OMG i cant stop getting goosebumps hehehehe
why?, wait! are you a girl?..
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Old 2009-12-06, 01:53   Link #1807
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shizuku is win, and i gladly accept any avatars of her q.q
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Old 2009-12-06, 01:56   Link #1808
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And this episode once again proves why shizuku san is the best.
quoted for truth ^
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Old 2009-12-06, 01:56   Link #1809
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no why do you ask??

im a 100% boy look at me

in this pic
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Old 2009-12-06, 02:06   Link #1810
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no why do you ask??

im a 100% boy look at me

in this pic
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well since you said you get goosebump imagining Harakiri tora human version..
never mind

I hope Kampfer get it's 2nd season, since it have good impression for preview episode 11
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Old 2009-12-06, 02:26   Link #1811
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i hope for a season 2

the idea of the second season should be the 4 kampfer fighter got defeated and end up in a new world where the true kampfer wars is happening
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Old 2009-12-06, 02:31   Link #1812
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bue there's a chance to see a 2nd season of Kampfer? o.O or its just a wich? T.T
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Old 2009-12-06, 03:56   Link #1813
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it's a wish. Kampfer will complete at 12, it's sorta obvious.
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Old 2009-12-06, 03:59   Link #1814
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Did anyone mention the error in this episode?

Episode 9 Natsuru pins up the Animals.
Episode 10 Akane kisses the bunny (who isn't on the string).
Later Natsuru takes down the now dry bunny (Who is on the string).
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Old 2009-12-06, 04:06   Link #1815
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Did anyone mention the error in this episode?

Episode 9 Natsuru pins up the Animals.
Episode 10 Akane kisses the bunny (who isn't on the string).
Later Natsuru takes down the now dry bunny (Who is on the string).
it can be Mikoto pull it to be kissed by Akane whose throw it to Bin and then return it to be dry when we didn't see it (cut by editor may be)
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Old 2009-12-06, 07:28   Link #1816
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Shizuku's character is contradicting in this episode.

She used all of her advantage to get Senou but she let this big chance slip by. She used her power as Madam President and Kampfer identity to get a date with Senou. She took advantage of him when he was sleeping. She kissed him. When he drops his guard which is all the time, she takes advantage of it and kissed him.
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Old 2009-12-06, 08:03   Link #1817
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Did anyone mention the error in this episode?

Episode 9 Natsuru pins up the Animals.
Episode 10 Akane kisses the bunny (who isn't on the string).
Later Natsuru takes down the now dry bunny (Who is on the string).
Did that in my earlier post. Thought no one else mentioned them.
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Old 2009-12-06, 08:07   Link #1818
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She used her power as Madam President and Kampfer identity to get a date with Senou.
She did no such thing. She asked him on a date, and he accepted. Sure he thought it was for a complete different purpose, though he still went along with her.
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Old 2009-12-06, 09:28   Link #1819
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Shizuku's character is contradicting in this episode.

She used all of her advantage to get Senou but she let this big chance slip by. She used her power as Madam President and Kampfer identity to get a date with Senou. She took advantage of him when he was sleeping. She kissed him. When he drops his guard which is all the time, she takes advantage of it and kissed him.
Er, she wants to take all of his firsts, but for the most important ones, she wants him to want it (not be forced into it by Dark Sakura).

There's a difference between her stealing kisses from him/trying to seduce him, and them going all the way. Clearly in the latter, she wants him to feel the same way as she does when that happens, so she's not going to take that first unless he actually feels the same way as she does.
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Old 2009-12-06, 10:11   Link #1820
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This episode really made it clear that chizuru does like natsuru even more than she's led on to. Even though she tells the others, akane and mikoto, that it's natsuru's dense ness, she infact doesn't resist him when he's forceful. Pretty much a tragic character as long as natsuru romance this same dunce.
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