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Old 2009-12-11, 11:48   Link #2001
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*shrug*

Koda is just being childish again. That's all.

Common consensus is that Kämpfer was quite decent in the first 4 eps, got _really_ good from 5 to the first half of ep11, and then they decided to troll everyone.

I think I'll just pretend that the second half of ep11 didn't happen and be quite happy with the rest, waiting for the novels to finish and the manga to catch up.
>>childish

Uhm, no gramps, the entire gg staff thinks Kampfer is terrible. We had a poll to see what we thought was the best and worst anime we were subbing, Sacred Blacksmith and Kampfer were the bottom 2.

"Common consensus" doesn't apply to us. And frankly, my comment is extremely positive and compliments Kampfer for doing something consistently.
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Old 2009-12-11, 12:25   Link #2002
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hmm.... can i honest opinion from people, been busy so i haven't been keeping up the last month or so... question is should i just skip the last 3 eps.... as from what i've been read about it, it sounds like it's so bad it's practically trolling the viewer.

as the entire anime has been excessive fanservice take on the series (i've kept up to date with the manga which i find entertaining) to the point that it already annoyed me several times early on (doesn't help that anime natsuru is mentally retarded). so should i just skip them or just bear with it and hope that it's so bad it's good.
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Old 2009-12-11, 12:35   Link #2003
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First off I actually get why you are all harsh on Episode 11. Quite frankly it deserved it. While it did make sense once you watch it a few times, it was all over the place and felt like Michael Bay was involved somehow (I wouldn't be surprised if Michael Bay found out about this series and decided to make it into a movie in the coming years. This is basically Transformers with Gender-Bending and high school girls fighting one another) This won't make a lot of sense to most people however, unless they have ADHD, which I actually have.

On the other hand, this is a gender-bending fanservice anime that also happens to have talking stuffed animals. Did you all HONESTLY THINK they were going to take it seriously in the end. Truth be told, it would have been interesting to see it taken a darker route, but it was never going to happen in the first place. Besides, this is the one episode in the entire season that had an action sequence that lasted over 3 minutes. Granted it didn't make sense but at the end of the day, the group did defeat Kaede and the White kampfers, though they did retreat all alive and intact, which pretty much signifies to me that there will be a second season down the road. I mean seriously, Kaede pretty much mutters something along the lines of "This isn't over" and then flies off Superman style with the white kampfers.

Pros:
Natsuru finally knocked some sense into him and chose Shizuku, Mikoto, and Akane over Kaede. Sure it's a harem ending, but he did what most of us were hoping he would do.

This is the most fighting we've had in any episode, regardless of how stupid and random it is.

It's possible there will be a second season down the road the way it ends. There are some things left unanswered, most notably the moderators and not to mention the fact the white kampfers and Kaede get away.

Speaking of white-bracelet Kampfers...where the hell were the black-bracelet kampfers? Lol! Yes, I laughed at my lame joke.

Cons:
Anyone else notice how useless the White Kampfers were? They got their asses handed to them twice. For all this going on earlier about saying they were these big, bad dangerous Kampfers, they were beaten faster than the Fallen was by Optimus in the last Transformers movie, and I stress twice.

The stuffed animal messengers singing. That was a Jump the Shark moment. It was an awful idea and just another reason why they really don't need the stuffed animals at all.

Anyone else notice that Natsuru didn't even join in one the fight when he broke from Kaede's grasp? For someone who is technically the main character, shouldn't he have at least fought in the battle to some degree.

A crazy and wrong way to end an anime the ending was. But damn was it funny as hell.

Also, in the eyecatch, why the hell were the messengers possessing the characters? O_o Do we need the Exorcist now or something?

With that being said, I like Evil Kaede. She's like a low-key lesbian Bond Villain and what makes it all the more hilarious is that her minions are so damn useless that the other group, which was never organized beat them to a torn clothing fanservice pulp. Now if only the multiple abridgers out there trying to abridge this series (myself included) would take advantage of Evil Kaede and make her as a Bond Villain spoof instead of ripping off better abridged series. . .

And another thing. I know I'm abridging the series for various reasons, but why did the other abridgers jump in on the bandwagon? Especially someone from Team Four Star who shouldn't waste his time abridging this in my opinion and go on and do better series? I mean, I understand 3 to 4 people doing it at first and it picking up more as the years pass, but as the series airs and 8-10 people decide to abridge it? Well, all the better to compete with them I guess lol. I always liked competition.

Overall, the series gets a 7.5/10 from me. The singing messengers and the messengers in particular are the only reason this didn't get an 8/10 from me.
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Old 2009-12-11, 12:35   Link #2004
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Honest Opinion.

Kampfer has been a lesbian booby fest.
The last 2 episodes showed that Kampfer has a story.
The last 10 mins (Starting when the girls powered up) went back to being a booby fest (Minus the lesbian).

So people got disappointed.

I LIKED Kampfer. It was exactly what I needed for a good laugh with a fairly nice Harem (minus one) ending.

The dolls singing was pretty dumb. The girls powering up was just to show off their underwear. But Evil Kaede? WOOHOO. But as someone said in their Post.
Kaede is not dead = -5 Hahahaha.

Ok honestly, Nyan koi is smarter than Kampfer. But I like both of them.
Kampfer's ending isn't as powerful as Seto No Hanayome.

But saying Kampfer is worse than Princess Lover? Gah. In PL they introduce a bad guy that is REALLY bad, yet at the end the hero just lets him go. In PL they introduce a 4 episode arc that concluded the series but did NOTHING about the overall story.

Yah, Kampfer isn't that great, but it's still GREAT!
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Old 2009-12-11, 12:55   Link #2005
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I think the crowning moment of stupidity had to be when Kaede moved in to persuade Natsuru one last time, and he turned back into a guy. She then got grossed out and slapped him silly.

This is the same girl who was basically groping him at the beginning of episode 10 in order to brainwash him, right? Why would it suddenly be so disgusting now, but wasn't then?

This isn't even looking at all of the other stupid/silly instances, but this one really capped it off for me.
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Old 2009-12-11, 13:09   Link #2006
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the ep was good until they faced the white kampher. they underestimated them so much. i didnt pay much attention to the fighting after. i glad they told most of the story behind the fights but it was not the worst ending ive ever seen. that prestigious award got to boobynauts: the animation aka dragonauts. did they even have a show down likr that in the novels?
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Old 2009-12-11, 13:13   Link #2007
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>>childish

Uhm, no gramps, the entire gg staff thinks Kampfer is terrible. We had a poll to see what we thought was the best and worst anime we were subbing, Sacred Blacksmith and Kampfer were the bottom 2.

"Common consensus" doesn't apply to us. And frankly, my comment is extremely positive and compliments Kampfer for doing something consistently.
If you prefer to extend my "childish" label to the entire gg staff, please be my guest. No problem.

The common consensus of the anime viewers (as also reflected in anime board comments, DB ratings, blogs etc) is as I wrote. Decent start, very strong middle, and a terrible WTF episode 11. It's not been "consistently bad" for the vast majority of anime fans. And pretending otherwise - particularly in the typical broad-brush-hits-all style which you/gg repeatedly exhibit when you're on your latest trolling spree - is, in my most humble opinion, indeed far away from mature.

But since when would that bother you? ^_^;
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Old 2009-12-11, 13:32   Link #2008
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But saying Kampfer is worse than Princess Lover? Gah. In PL they introduce a bad guy that is REALLY bad, yet at the end the hero just lets him go. In PL they introduce a 4 episode arc that concluded the series but did NOTHING about the overall story.

Yah, Kampfer isn't that great, but it's still GREAT!
Both shows are terrible, IMO. But Kampfer is still a lot better than Princess Lover. At least Kampfer knows what is its selling points and it concentrates on those elements (fanservice, comedy, yuri, harem etc etc...) But big problem in Princess Lover is that the plot suddenly starts to get serious involving political and it fails miserably. Also, a character like Shizuku is more lovable than the entire Princess Lover series.
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Old 2009-12-11, 13:35   Link #2009
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Episodes 1 through 10, I see nothing wrong there. If there was a second season, it's possible the series could be saved. If Episode 11 alone caused the whole series to tank its reputation (if there was any to being with) they may decide not to continue on.

(Can't decide whether to continue past Ep 8 given the reviews)
(One thing's for sure. Now I need to check out the manga to see if it's any better.)
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Old 2009-12-11, 13:44   Link #2010
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Manga is scantilated up to Mikoto arc if I remember right.

But I will say this. Kampfer comes from the same staff as Tsukihime and Hayate, but it's OBVIOUS they used the Eiken director for it :P
Edit : Sorry got it wrong, Kampfer is drawn by JC Staff but the story is from NOMAD
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Old 2009-12-11, 13:47   Link #2011
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I don't know why, but I'm suspecting this anime might at some point be licensed in the United States. With that being said, God only knows what they'll call it. With our luck it will either be called Warrior or Fighter or........Camper.....
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Old 2009-12-11, 13:48   Link #2012
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If you prefer to extend my "childish" label to the entire gg staff, please be my guest. No problem.

The common consensus of the anime viewers (as also reflected in anime board comments, DB ratings, blogs etc) is as I wrote. Decent start, very strong middle, and a terrible WTF episode 11. It's not been "consistently bad" for the vast majority of anime fans. And pretending otherwise - particularly in the typical broad-brush-hits-all style which you/gg repeatedly exhibit when you're on your latest trolling spree - is, in my most humble opinion, indeed far away from mature.

But since when would that bother you? ^_^;
If you go looking for positive comments, all you will find is positive comments and thus narrow your world to what you want it to be.
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Episodes 1 through 10, I see nothing wrong there. If there was a second season, it's possible the series could be saved. If Episode 11 alone caused the whole series to tank its reputation (if there was any to being with) they may decide not to continue on.

(Can't decide whether to continue past Ep 8 given the reviews)
(One thing's for sure. Now I need to check out the manga to see if it's any better.)
The manga actually is better really. It's a tad darker and more plot oriented. Though it has fanservice too. . .

Though I wouldn't be surprised if the end of the manga and the end of the light novel series find themselves similar to the anime's ending minus the Jar Jar like stuffed animals singing some spoof of another song.

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If you go looking for positive comments, all you will find is positive comments and thus narrow your world to what you want it to be.
Some people find it tiresome to read negative criticism and reviews of things they like to watch. So people go and look for the more positive criticisms. Sorry, but it's a fact of life.

Then again, most people don't care about bad reviews. It's only opinions of professionals or etc and they're almost always....IGNORED!
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Old 2009-12-11, 14:12   Link #2014
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The common consensus of the anime viewers (as also reflected in anime board comments, DB ratings, blogs etc) is as I wrote. Decent start, very strong middle, and a terrible WTF episode 11. It's not been "consistently bad" for the vast majority of anime fans. And pretending otherwise - particularly in the typical broad-brush-hits-all style which you/gg repeatedly exhibit when you're on your latest trolling spree - is, in my most humble opinion, indeed far away from mature.
So because more people say it's not bad means people who say the show is bad don't know what they're talking about?
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Old 2009-12-11, 14:14   Link #2015
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Basically the entire storyline is too rushed, but great fanservice!

P.S Akane is the most perverted of all the girls to let him touch *there*. Wow.
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Old 2009-12-11, 14:15   Link #2016
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Old 2009-12-11, 14:18   Link #2017
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P.S Akane is the most perverted of all the girls to let him touch *there*. Wow.
I wouldn't say most perverted because of that. It's just that the other girls beat her to the other places first.
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Old 2009-12-11, 14:20   Link #2018
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So because more people say it's not bad means people who say the show is bad don't know what they're talking about?
that's just matter of opinion. i found most of kampfer's episode to be entertaining. it's mainly episode 11's second half that sucked a lot, but that's just my opinion.

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Basically the entire storyline is too rushed, but great fanservice!
kampfer wasn't really rushed from an anime only viewer's perspective. it's only episode 11 that's rushed.

this show should have been 24 episodes instead of 12.
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Old 2009-12-11, 14:21   Link #2019
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that's just matter of opinion. i found most of kampfer's episode to be entertaining. it's mainly episode 11's second half that sucked a lot, but that's just my opinion.
Yeah i know it's a matter of opinion, though i was just pointing out what Mentar was saying wasn't really fare.

& yeah would have been nice if it was 24 episodes. A lot more time for more fun fluff.
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Old 2009-12-11, 15:04   Link #2020
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I think Kampfer could had been made into a awesome long series, there was a lot of story line to tell and so many plots and paths that it could had followed but it got pissed upon with a rushed ending, I loved the art work and the colours and the whole feel of the show.

The fight with the white kampfers ended too fast.

I don't understand it, how can great shows like this end so fast but kiddy crap like Bleach and One Piece go on for 100s of episodes.
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