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Old 2010-01-16, 16:44   Link #361
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Wow, that's just got to be the most depressing thing for a guy to hear...
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Old 2010-01-16, 17:12   Link #362
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I say the other 54% are lying.
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Old 2010-01-16, 17:26   Link #363
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46%. That's a lot. The date an otaku because they "don't" article is even better.
Not trying to down play anything but small sample size is small and ....

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The survey, conducted by StyleWalker, asked 2,000 Japanese women in their teens and twenties “Have you ever cheated on someone?”
now ... what is considered cheating? Quote from another Sankaku article,

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When asked just what it is they considered the point at which cheating started (when done to themselves at least), the number one concern was “holding hands” with 37% considering this infidelity, “because lovers do it”, and “holding hands has a deeper meaning even than H or kissing.”

The next most unfaithful act was “being alone together”, at 20%, as “without a good reason drinking together is already cheating” and even “because it doesn’t feel right”.
The holding hands one is understandable (though there are clingy girls), but being alone together is mind boggling. The high "cheating" rate I suspect is mostly due to teens trying to figure out who they would like to go out with.

Either way, I'm always weary of these results.

At this point, I'm semi-derailing the topic, so I will say Simon is clearly the best character in the show.
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Old 2010-01-16, 17:32   Link #364
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What's amusing is that the picture above that article shows a guy cheating.
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Old 2010-01-16, 17:53   Link #365
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At this point, I'm semi-derailing the topic, so I will say Simon is clearly the best character in the show.
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Old 2010-01-16, 18:23   Link #366
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Either way, I'm always weary of these results.

At this point, I'm semi-derailing the topic, so I will say Simon is clearly the best character in the show.
It's good to be leery, the Sankaku article is indeed the one I was referring to, I guess it wasn't as in depth as I remembered (after I read it I recall following a bunch of links so I must have just lumped it all together in my brain ). However when you look at overall articles, like the one Sensei linked it does paint an interesting picture of relationships in Japan, and family life there as well.

How close is it to reality? Dunno. Numbers can be spun in some pretty interesting ways. And media does like to exaggerate for ratings.

Anyway, unintentional thread derailing aside, (which I do apologize for instigating), I still find myself praising this episode for handling the subject in a mature way without trying to dress it up heavily or hammer the message into the viewer into a preachy sermon. That there's all of these other bits of social commentary I find interesting in addition to that just really hammers home how much better I felt episode two was compared to one.
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Old 2010-01-16, 18:34   Link #367
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The holding hands one is understandable (though there are clingy girls), but being alone together is mind boggling. The high "cheating" rate I suspect is mostly due to teens trying to figure out who they would like to go out with.
And what do you think happens when people are "alone together"?

It's the outcome of that scenario that is fueling the answers imo.


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It's good to be leery, the Sankaku article is indeed the one I was referring to, I guess it wasn't as in depth as I remembered (after I read it I recall following a bunch of links so I must have just lumped it all together in my brain ). However when you look at overall articles, like the one Sensei linked it does paint an interesting picture of relationships in Japan, and family life there as well.

How close is it to reality? Dunno. Numbers can be spun in some pretty interesting ways. And media does like to exaggerate for ratings.

Anyway, unintentional thread derailing aside, (which I do apologize for instigating), I still find myself praising this episode for handling the subject in a mature way without trying to dress it up heavily or hammer the message into the viewer into a preachy sermon. That there's all of these other bits of social commentary I find interesting in addition to that just really hammers home how much better I felt episode two was compared to one.
I don't think it derailed. The father was cheating in the second ep.

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Old 2010-01-16, 18:34   Link #368
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Yeah as I was saying on the last page. That was one of three highlights episode 2.
Other two being Celty and Izaya.
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Old 2010-01-16, 18:39   Link #369
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He used to be my first =), guy is so ridiculous though. Can you imagine ripping an entire vending machine with one hand, and then throwing it that high? Rumor has it that he can beat up Ronnie from Baccano.
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Old 2010-01-16, 19:31   Link #370
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Haha this guy is pure awesomeness
He is one of my fav character on this series.
Based on the preview,I assume he will have more of his screen time next ep
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Old 2010-01-16, 20:04   Link #371
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Ah, Sensei... When I was young I had to walk 10 miles uphill (both ways) through heavy snow in 110 degree weather (Celsius) just to get to the cardboard box I lived in so I could watch my anime on a 3" black and white TV.
That made me laugh so hard.

Angst or not, if I remember correctly suicide among young people in japan is quite high so one can see where the storyline comes from

Izaya is definitely high on my list of "interesting" characters but I totally digging the vending machine throwing guy at the moment XD
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Old 2010-01-16, 20:25   Link #372
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46%. That's a lot. The date an otaku because they "don't" article is even better.
Thanks. (I do wish Sankaku had less questionable content...)

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The holding hands one is understandable (though there are clingy girls), but being alone together is mind boggling.
I've actually had conversations about this, and one of the points that comes up is 'state of mind' - i.e. if the person thinks what he/she is doing is cheating, then that's what they label it as. Keep in mind that Japan is a society where male-female friendships are extremely rare. If you're seen in public with a person of the opposite sex, most people automatically assume you're dating.

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I'm also stuck on Orihara (Izaya) and vending machine guy. Loving how Kamiyan is voicing the former too... ack, though I'm finding Kida darned amusing too, in the kind of way...
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Old 2010-01-16, 22:24   Link #373
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Izaya and Shizuo by episode 2 is so far the most interesting character...
But i'm kinda expecting Seiji plot...
What happened to him so he will ditch school forever?
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Old 2010-01-17, 01:29   Link #374
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Izaya and Shizuo by episode 2 is so far the most interesting character...
But i'm kinda expecting Seiji plot...
What happened to him so he will ditch school forever?
Well, in the novel we know the reason WHY Yagiri didn't want to attend school, but for some reason the anime cut (or maybe they'll showed that part later) that particular part, it was supposed to be in the first episode.

Clue: It has something to do with the girl who was with him in the OP and ED.
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Old 2010-01-17, 01:41   Link #375
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lol, given what Superknuckles said about asian societies percieving suicide as a way to send a message (since I was reading all the spoilers people were posting before I watched the episode) I just kinda assumed from Yagiri's speech ('something to do that's more important than my life', 'may never come to school again' , etc.) that he was planning to be a jumper too. So he's not suicidal? Just doesn't want to attend school? Alright, guess I'll find out next episode then.
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Old 2010-01-17, 01:52   Link #376
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I say the other 54% are lying.
You honestly don't think that a signal Japanese woman stays faithful to her spouse?

Wow...
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Old 2010-01-17, 02:07   Link #377
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You honestly don't think that a signal Japanese woman stays faithful to her spouse?

Wow...
Pretty sure he's joking. But if you're joking too then you got me good sir .
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Old 2010-01-17, 03:36   Link #378
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I have a feeling that the black rider is a female,it has curves D:
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Old 2010-01-17, 04:10   Link #379
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Well, in the novel we know the reason WHY Yagiri didn't want to attend school, but for some reason the anime cut (or maybe they'll showed that part later) that particular part, it was supposed to be in the first episode.

Clue: It has something to do with the girl who was with him in the OP and ED.
Yeah, i know it had something to do with the girls that have marks in her neck...
But, i'll patiently wait until the anime reveals the reason...

Good anime supposed to be chew slowly...




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Here i thought, i'm the only one that think that Certy probably a girl cause of the curve since no one mention it...
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Old 2010-01-17, 04:35   Link #380
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I have a feeling that the black rider is a female,it has curves D:
Year, year. Anyway, it's mysterious what is he/she. Even not a mankind.
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