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Old 2010-01-21, 03:27   Link #2361
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But is the Force with them?
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Old 2010-01-21, 03:30   Link #2362
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But is the Force with them?
No.

But when you die, and you've done all that Haruhi asks in this life. You will be rewarded by going to Haruhi's hevan. Which is full of bunny girls and maids for the guys. And moi boys for the girls.

But if you do not follow her rules and what she wants in this life, you go to a closed space, one that has everything this world has, but with everyone with Koizumi's head. (Or Taniguchi's if your a girl)
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Old 2010-01-21, 04:29   Link #2363
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Personally I consider myself as an "Agnostic Atheist", since it's what makes sense to me.
Also this thread having "Endless Eight" tag made laugh.
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Old 2010-01-25, 00:01   Link #2364
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Niiicee one.
Umm, off/on topic-ish.
My friend Alyssa is Catholic. She says that if you don't ask God to forgive your sins, then you're going to hell.
She said my sin was Gluttony, and that when I get to hell, they'll put food in front of me and never let me eat it..for all eternity.
Um, is there any truth to this? Or does it depend on your religious beliefs?
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Old 2010-01-25, 00:16   Link #2365
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Niiicee one.
Umm, off/on topic-ish.
My friend Alyssa is Catholic. She says that if you don't ask God to forgive your sins, then you're going to hell.
She said my sin was Gluttony, and that when I get to hell, they'll put food in front of me and never let me eat it..for all eternity.
Um, is there any truth to this? Or does it depend on your religious beliefs?
The answer varies depending on whom you ask. I'd say that it depends on your belief overall, not just religious belief.

As for me, I'm a Buddhist, and I believe that things that happen stem from complex chains of actions and reactions/causes and consequences, so I'd say that the route from gluttony --> hell is oversimplifying it. I also have problems with the way she put it and the "they'll put food in front of [you]" and "for all eternity" parts, but that's just me.

So I guess my answer to your first question would be "I don't know." However, she hasn't given sufficient ground for you to worry about it, so you shouldn't, either. If anything, you should be more concerned about whether you being "gluttony" is true or not.
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Old 2010-01-25, 00:20   Link #2366
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Niiicee one.
Umm, off/on topic-ish.
My friend Alyssa is Catholic. She says that if you don't ask God to forgive your sins, then you're going to hell.
She said my sin was Gluttony, and that when I get to hell, they'll put food in front of me and never let me eat it..for all eternity.
Um, is there any truth to this? Or does it depend on your religious beliefs?
That would be one interpretation from a Catholic of her beliefs....

It depends ENTIRELY on your religious beliefs and your interpretation of what the Bible says on the subject. The "truth" depends on what you think "true" means. Are her remarks literally and physically true? Most of the world would say "no". But then most of the world isn't Roman Catholic and even amongst that faction there is disagreement.

If I drop a hammer, I have rules and mathematics that predict with a lot of certainty how fast it will fall and what energy it will hit the ground with. If I assert "you're going to hell for doing X", there's no test at all to validate that statement.
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Old 2010-01-25, 00:28   Link #2367
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I lean Christian, but I don't belong to any religion. I believe in God, and some things in the Bible, but not all. Don't know where that puts me.
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Old 2010-01-25, 01:02   Link #2368
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Niiicee one.
Umm, off/on topic-ish.
My friend Alyssa is Catholic. She says that if you don't ask God to forgive your sins, then you're going to hell.
She said my sin was Gluttony, and that when I get to hell, they'll put food in front of me and never let me eat it..for all eternity.
Um, is there any truth to this? Or does it depend on your religious beliefs?
Depends on your beliefs, IMO; no one knows who's actually right or wrong when it comes to the hereafter....

I guess you'll find out when you keel over, huh
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Old 2010-01-25, 01:04   Link #2369
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Niiicee one.
Umm, off/on topic-ish.
My friend Alyssa is Catholic. She says that if you don't ask God to forgive your sins, then you're going to hell.
She said my sin was Gluttony, and that when I get to hell, they'll put food in front of me and never let me eat it..for all eternity.
Um, is there any truth to this? Or does it depend on your religious beliefs?
Well whether you should believe it depends on whether you believe a concept written by a 4th century monk named Evagrius Ponticus (who actually listed 8 sins but later revised by Pope Gregory I to the 7 sins we know today.

It's not our position to tell you whether you should believe this or not. You ll have to decide this on your own whether you're a Catholic or not.

In my opinion, such religious ideas are often mere guidepost for our life rather than rules. Underneath the fear mongering, there are some good ideas/philosophy behind the 7 deadly sins.

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I lean Christian, but I don't belong to any religion. I believe in God, and some things in the Bible, but not all. Don't know where that puts me.
I guess you're somewhat in between the category of agnostic theism and christianity.
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Old 2010-01-25, 01:04   Link #2370
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Depends on your beliefs, IMO; no one knows who's actually right or wrong when it comes to the hereafter....

I guess you'll find out when you keel over, huh
Yeah, but It is kind of scary to think about that..
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Old 2010-01-25, 01:07   Link #2371
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Yeah, but It is kind of scary to think about that..
Again; depends on your beliefs... Mine? i'll be wormfood, or ashes so I really wont' care
I'm not one to go for the whole "life after death" thing, so I live life to the fullest while I have it.
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Old 2010-01-25, 01:11   Link #2372
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I believe that we'll be reincarnated someday as another human or animal, and have no memories of our last lives, but have deja vu..
I have weird memories that never occured to me, and It's a bit creepy lol.
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Old 2010-01-25, 01:12   Link #2373
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Yeah, but It is kind of scary to think about that..
It shouldn't be. *FEAR* should not be the basis for your behavior or choices. I'd start questioning why an institution or persons should want you fearful.

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Old 2010-01-25, 01:12   Link #2374
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I guess you're somewhat in between the category of agnostic theism and christianity.
Sounds kinda
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Old 2010-01-25, 01:21   Link #2375
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Sounds kinda
Hmmm, sounds rather Thomas Jefferson-esque .... (maybe Deism).
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Old 2010-01-25, 01:29   Link #2376
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Hmmm, sounds rather Thomas Jefferson-esque .... (maybe Deism).
I'm allergic to organized religion and churches. Always have been. I respect them and the people who attend them for the good they can do, and for their own beliefs. It just doesn't work for me. As long as they don't force a religion down my throat, we can all get along peachy.
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Old 2010-01-25, 01:42   Link #2377
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I'm allergic to organized religion and churches. Always have been. I respect them and the people who attend them for the good they can do, and for their own beliefs. It just doesn't work for me. As long as they don't force a religion down my throat, we can all get along peachy.
we need more tolerant people like you in the world ;D
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Old 2010-01-25, 01:43   Link #2378
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It isn't nerdy, I think you're being a jerk.
You can't insult someone for their religion. It's wrong.
When I'm joking, I say Haruhiism.
When I'm serious business, I say semi-athiest.
There's so many theories, I just don't know what to believe.
Similar reasoning, as said before made me pick Agnostic Atheist, it's kinda semi-athiest, but it's not as adamant about there being no god for sure, no matter what.
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Old 2010-01-25, 01:57   Link #2379
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My view on religion is more or less "whatever". I don't see any evidence for it, and it inherently can't be disproven, so I just want to live the few years humans get in this world in peace. I'm not interested in participating in religious debates.

If there is a God, and he's as all-powerful and benevolent as they say, then hopefully I'll get into heaven for being a kind, good person, even if I didn't go to church/temple/mosque every week and say prayers.
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Old 2010-01-25, 03:16   Link #2380
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we need more tolerant people like you in the world ;D
Ahahahahahahahahahaah ya i'm real tolerant.



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