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Old 2010-02-09, 02:38   Link #22221
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Spoiler for September the Seventh, Day 6, Memories: Flashes in Space (Boredom):
That was a fun flashback ... though I'm feeling a bit leery of the nicknames you have Haruki bestow on Taniguchi and Kunikida. Doesn't he usually just ignore them, rather than demean them? And pinching Taniguchi on the bum ... *waggles hand* I can't quite see it. It'd be a pretty low act for Haruki, in my opinion.
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Old 2010-02-09, 02:52   Link #22222
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It'd be a pretty low act for Haruki, in my opinion.
Have you seen the way he treats women in general? Like he says, he only does that to piss her off. He's like those guys in junior high who snapped bras because they got a kick out of it.

Haruki is not a good person. I don't know where you got the idea that he is.

He gets BETTER after Sighs, but... right now, and especially after the high he's coming down off of post-Melancholy, he's a huge, huge, asshole.
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Old 2010-02-09, 07:16   Link #22223
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What a deliciously fun flashback!

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Haruki is not a good person. I don't know where you got the idea that he is.

He gets BETTER after Sighs, but... right now, and especially after the high he's coming down off of post-Melancholy, he's a huge, huge, asshole.
I'll say. Asshole doesn't even begin to cover his character.

When girls act the way he does, they are called Genki. When guys act the way he does, they get called Asshole. Sad but true
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Old 2010-02-09, 07:37   Link #22224
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Fun scene, I especially loved the opening line.
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When girls act the way he does, they are called Genki. When guys act the way he does, they get called Asshole. Sad but true
All part of the Double Standard, which is pretty much what this project is built on.
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Old 2010-02-09, 08:28   Link #22225
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Double Standard FTW, then.
I was wondering what Kyonko and the girls were talking about, but I was smart enough to check Baka-Tsuki for the re-write.
Great Haruki's point of view though.
Dammit Haruki you perv!
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Old 2010-02-09, 09:15   Link #22226
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And pinching Taniguchi on the bum ... *waggles hand* I can't quite see it. It'd be a pretty low act for Haruki, in my opinion.
Given Haruki's whole perverted asshole routine, this doesn't seem that ooc.

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Have you seen the way he treats women in general? Like he says, he only does that to piss her off. He's like those guys in junior high who snapped bras because they got a kick out of it.

Haruki is not a good person. I don't know where you got the idea that he is.
Well yeah. Haruki is a dick. REALLY big dick...though I'm not sure hise dickery stems from categorizing people like Taniguchi as "whores". He honestly never came off as caring enough about normal people like her to feel anything but annoyance. Haruki just doesn't seem emotionally invested enough in regular people to be vindictive enough to routinely think of her like that. Maybe he'd occasionally upgrade her to bitch if she was being particularly annoying, but Haruki honestly doesn't seem like he cares enough about Taniguchi for that.

And it really doesn't make sense for Kunikida...who has barely interacted with Haruki.
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Old 2010-02-09, 09:37   Link #22227
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I'll be sure to be a terrible influence on him, and he'll soon grow up to be exactly like me. This is part of my master plan to surround you with clones of myself so that when it comes time to get married, you'll definitely choose me, hahahahaha!
lol would the CG have a bubble on top of Haruki's head with his little bro looking like Haruki?
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Old 2010-02-09, 10:40   Link #22228
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lol would the CG have a bubble on top of Haruki's head with his little bro looking like Haruki?
Ok, I did find this amusing.


Hmmm, I wonder what Haruki's thoughts will be when we get to Bamboo leaf...

edit:I'm thinking specifically of the wishes that Shaoran put in his version of Bamboo leaf...

Spoiler for bamboo leaf:

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Old 2010-02-09, 12:29   Link #22229
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This spot is so ripe for a Scooby Doo parody.
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Old 2010-02-09, 12:46   Link #22230
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Old 2010-02-09, 13:42   Link #22231
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Well yeah. Haruki is a dick. REALLY big dick...though I'm not sure hise dickery stems from categorizing people like Taniguchi as "whores". He honestly never came off as caring enough about normal people like her to feel anything but annoyance. Haruki just doesn't seem emotionally invested enough in regular people to be vindictive enough to routinely think of her like that. Maybe he'd occasionally upgrade her to bitch if she was being particularly annoying, but Haruki honestly doesn't seem like he cares enough about Taniguchi for that.
Haruhi considers Taniguchi a stalker, and has spoken out against him on multiple occasions. Here, Tani-chan is the reason Haruki really started to hate women. (lol five minutes)

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And it really doesn't make sense for Kunikida...who has barely interacted with Haruki.
He condemns her by association, as well as her fangirling over anything remotely attractive. If Kyonko wasn't part of his brigade/he wasn't in love with her, he'd probably refer to her as "That Bitch Kyon".

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All part of the Double Standard, which is pretty much what this project is built on.
Although in this case it's less speaking out against the preferential treatment of men as it is against the preferential treatment of women.

You'll notice that Haruhi gets away with treating men like dirt and generally being a giant, needy bitch, simply because she's cute. I don't particularly like this, so...

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lol would the CG have a bubble on top of Haruki's head with his little bro looking like Haruki?
I like this. Let's do that.

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Hmmm, I wonder what Haruki's thoughts will be when we get to Bamboo leaf...
We're not doing the present-day part of Bamboo Leaf, since it isn't important in the least. I already did the 3YA bit, and I'd consider Mysterique Sign a lot more fun to write about anyway.

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This spot is so ripe for a Scooby Doo parody.
I try to avoid mentioning Western cartoons too much, since I doubt Haruki would have heard of them.
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Old 2010-02-09, 13:50   Link #22232
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You can't really count on Haruhi/Haruki being unaware of anything even remotely fun ...
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Old 2010-02-09, 15:28   Link #22233
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Once again, you have written an amazing Haruki memory scene. It was both absolutely hilarious and very revealing of Haruki's (and by extension, Haruhi's) character. In fact, I'm guessing thats part of the point of the Memory scenes; to give the reader insight into how Haruki's mind works.

Anyway, great scene.
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Old 2010-02-09, 16:31   Link #22234
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Haruhi considers Taniguchi a stalker, and has spoken out against him on multiple occasions.
Well yeah. But I wouldn't have thought of Haruhi hating (or even caring) enough about Taniguchi to warrant those kinds of strong feelings. Generally you don't think of someone casually like that unless you seriously got a big fucking mad on towards them. This goes way beyond disliking someone, or equating this with potatoes.

If you dislike someone this much, you're not gonna want to even be around them.
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Here, Tani-chan is the reason Haruki
really started to hate women. (lol five minutes)
I have a hard time seeing Haruki being spectacularly more offended by Taniguchi's antics than Haruhi was...unless Female Taniguchi is stupendously more annoying than Male Taniguchi...which is a vibe I haven't gotten.

Due to gender bias, you'd expect the chick to be given a higher tolerance for shenanigans.
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He condemns her by association, as well as her fangirling over anything remotely attractive. If Kyonko wasn't part of his brigade/he wasn't in love with her, he'd probably refer to her as "That Bitch Kyon".
I guess this is where my interpretation differs. Haruki is a colossal prick who treats other people like crap. But that never seemed because he was personally vindictive about other people by default. It seemed more like he just didn't care about them and considered them a nuisance. Sure he was more directly pissed off if someone was acting as an obstacle towards what he wanted, but other wise it just seemed like he just didn't care.

It also seems to contradict the idea put forward by Koizumi, that Suzumiya not being an inherently malignant individual even when she was in her psycho bitch phase, else reality would probably be a very horrible place.
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Old 2010-02-09, 17:03   Link #22235
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It also seems to contradict the idea put forward by Koizumi, that Suzumiya not being an inherently malignant individual even when she was in her psycho bitch phase, else reality would probably be a very horrible place.
I never said that Haruki was pure evil, but I did say that he most definitely isn't a good person (yet).

But what-fucking-ever. I guess if it offends you that much I can edit it.
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Old 2010-02-09, 17:06   Link #22236
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I never said that Haruki was pure evil, but I did say that he most definitely isn't a good person (yet).
Agreed. By no means a good person. But there are different kinds of "not good persons".

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But what-fucking-ever. I guess if it offends you that much I can edit it.
...I wasn't trying to come off as pushy, and it's not like it really offended me that much.
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Old 2010-02-09, 17:10   Link #22237
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No, seriously, if you think it's bad I'll change it. That's why I post these up here in the first place.
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Old 2010-02-09, 20:11   Link #22238
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Whenever I imagine Haruki laughing, the only thing that comes to mind is Rance. For some odd reason.
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Old 2010-02-09, 20:14   Link #22239
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Whenever I imagine Haruki laughing, the only thing that comes to mind is Rance. For some odd reason.
Same here, actually. Probably because they both believe they're God's gift to the world, and otherwise have very similar personalities. Doesn't help that their hair color is the same and their eyes look similar.
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Old 2010-02-09, 21:32   Link #22240
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No, seriously, if you think it's bad I'll change it. That's why I post these up here in the first place.
Alright, cool.

just throwing my 2 cents in.
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