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Old 2010-02-09, 14:53   Link #6001
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I'm more concerned for my father. Not once have I ever seen him drink water, only opting for coke. He also smokes, so he's definitely doing himself no good. How come he hasn't...(I got no other way of softening the blow) just dropped dead?
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Old 2010-02-09, 15:40   Link #6002
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The bottomline of consumption is : Eat well, stay fit, die anyway. Eat and drink until full, but don't waste food. I am the kind who don't keep leftovers, I would eat slowly and try and finish it while it is still fresh, because there are many out there who would relish at the food if they are going to be thrown away.
Yeah. We all have to die of something. For me, it's probably going to be a heart attack, which isn't a bad way to die, as such things go. And I don't think my soda drinking habit will do much to give cancer a chance to beat heart attack to the punch.
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Old 2010-02-09, 17:39   Link #6003
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For Japan's cellphone novelists, proof of success is in the print


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http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-a...0,116266.story

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"One teenager who wrote a three-volume novel on her phone has gone on to sell
more than 110,000 paperback copies, grossing more than $611,000 in sales."
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Old 2010-02-09, 17:51   Link #6004
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The bottomline of consumption is : Eat well, stay fit, die anyway. Eat and drink until full, but don't waste food. I am the kind who don't keep leftovers, I would eat slowly and try and finish it while it is still fresh, because there are many out there who would relish at the food if they are going to be thrown away.
By the way, I also hate smoking, I avoid canned food as much as possible, I have never eaten junk food, I don't drink coffee or anything like that...and the list continues. Some people think it is funny and strange, but I don't mind as long as I like it. It makes me feel strong and confident

I don't find drinking soft drinks or eating from McDonaldz fun. It is not just a matter of concern about health. It is also a personal preference.

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For Japan's cellphone novelists, proof of success is in the print


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"One teenager who wrote a three-volume novel on her phone has gone on to sell
more than 110,000 paperback copies, grossing more than $611,000 in sales."
Don't remind me of those cool keitais. They are 785753875 times more advanced than anything in North America and even Europe. That's depressing.

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Old 2010-02-09, 20:40   Link #6005
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To all you health junkies, I'm planning on out-living all of you. Genetics plays some role in how long and healthy we can live as well. Not to say smoking and drinking won't cut it down, but you could eat the healthiest foods in the world, and still drop dead of a heart-attack at 40.

I've got another 60 years easy.
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Old 2010-02-09, 21:09   Link #6006
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Cancer,Coke and the News Media

It seems every week some studies group or a 'think tank'(as they used to be called) releases something that just might KILL you if you eat to much of it or drink. To this I say "Oh Really"?!
Here's the thing I went to my doctor last year and had a full physical with blood work, she said "Tell me why is it a mother of 2 with God only knows how much stress on you is healthier than most of the 20 somethings I see"? I answered honestly "Doc I just don't sweat the small stuff".
In other words as long as you can eat as healthy as you can(not too much fast food and such)eating in moderation ALL of the major food groups and get outside and do something like cut the grass or some activity you should do well.
As to these 'studies groups' just remember that these same outfits said coffee and red meat and chocolate were bad for you only to REVERSE their findings later!
In other words don't believe everything they tell ya,cause they don't know everything!!
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Old 2010-02-09, 21:21   Link #6007
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It seems every week some studies group or a 'think tank'(as they used to be called) releases something that just might KILL you if you eat to much of it or drink. To this I say "Oh Really"?!
Here's the thing I went to my doctor last year and had a full physical with blood work, she said "Tell me why is it a mother of 2 with God only knows how much stress on you is healthier than most of the 20 somethings I see"? I answered honestly "Doc I just don't sweat the small stuff".
In other words as long as you can eat as healthy as you can(not too much fast food and such)eating in moderation ALL of the major food groups and get outside and do something like cut the grass or some activity you should do well.
As to these 'studies groups' just remember that these same outfits said coffee and red meat and chocolate were bad for you only to REVERSE their findings later!
In other words don't believe everything they tell ya,cause they don't know everything!!
So true. I have seldom touched fruit and veg and I'm losing weight (not gaining on chips, yoghurt and other fried foods). In fact, I border on being underweight! It's all about eating the right amount, not what you eat.
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Old 2010-02-09, 21:38   Link #6008
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everything is bad for you if you eat too much. The key has always been moderation. balance diet and not too much of anything.

the fact that people needs to be told this is the real sad part. seems like common sense is no longer common.
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Old 2010-02-09, 22:36   Link #6009
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everything is bad for you if you eat too much. The key has always been moderation. balance diet and not too much of anything.

the fact that people needs to be told this is the real sad part. seems like common sense is no longer common.
It isn't. At least here in California. I wonder how people are able to make it through day to day activities sometimes.
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Old 2010-02-09, 22:43   Link #6010
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In other words don't believe everything they tell ya,cause they don't know everything!!
Don't blame researchers. They're doing their job -- research, experiment, collect data, and yes, revise. The worst scientist is the one who knows everything and is always correct.

Blame the media; few journalists [watch out for TRL's rebuttal!? ] know the science they're reporting, and there's a tendency to exaggerate or draw decisive statements out of preliminary conclusions. It comes with journalistic writing I suppose; too many if's and but's cut down on clarity and they can't afford that, even when the actual subject demands that there be no clarity yet.

And yes, coke is bad. If you're drinking it as much as many Americans do. I know this because I know everything.

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So true. I have seldom touched fruit and veg and I'm losing weight (not gaining on chips, yoghurt and other fried foods). In fact, I border on being underweight! It's all about eating the right amount, not what you eat.
Quite the opposite, actually. Good food is good for you...unless you're stupid and eat a stupid amount of it.

Also, you're sixteen. Many of us when we're young can carelessly coast through life just fine. Then karma comes back and everybody gets an epiphany at 30.

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Old 2010-02-09, 22:50   Link #6011
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I love microbrew colas (made with real cane sugar) and 'mexican Coca-cola' (real cane sugar). But I have maybe one a week, usually less. The *odds* are very much against a good result with drinking a liter of flavored corn syrup a day. Corn syrup is very likely a major vector in the obesity levels in the US today since almost all major producers of manufactured "foods" use it.
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Yeah. We all have to die of something. For me, it's probably going to be a heart attack, which isn't a bad way to die, as such things go. And I don't think my soda drinking habit will do much to give cancer a chance to beat heart attack to the punch.
I can't deny any of the things both of you guys said. Regarding microbrew colas and their sugar content, I was thinking about finer/liquid sugar due to increased solubility, which in turn, increases rate of absorption into the cells. Corn syrup has a longer and more complex structure that requires more chemical cycles to breakdown, which means that these large structures sometimes enter the bloodstream in their intermediate "unrefined" chains. Of course, designated volume is still designated volume (concentration of glucose per unit of water in blood), adding too much STILL overworks the pancreas.

I have a serious fetish for apple juice/drinks. Unfortunately, it can cause increased level of uric acid in the body (which leads to arthritis) and frequent diarrhoea. I once drank an entire 1.5L bottle of apple juice (made by myself, too lazy to measure out the sugar so added none) and had diarrhoea for the next 2 days.

As for soda drinking, I think body resistance builds up over time. It shouldn't be any more different from training alcohol tolerance, just don't chug too much per week because the body needs time to flush out the excess sugar and such from the body. After all, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

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Don't blame researchers. They're doing their job -- research, experiment, collect data, and yes, revise. The worst scientist is the one who knows everything and is always correct.

Blame the media; few journalists [watch out for TRL's rebuttal!? ] know the science they're reporting, and there's a tendency to exaggerate or draw decisive statements out of preliminary conclusions. It comes with journalistic writing I suppose; too many if's and but's cut down on clarity and they can't afford that, even when the actual subject demands that there be no clarity yet.
Quite sadly, yes. The reason of the research is often FYI and more of a guide, but often the media who publish them often throw them to the audience wholesale without any counter-arguments to allow the public to make a more balanced choice in their lives. This leads to compulsion and moral panic, which in turn, becomes an advertising and marketing tool for larger organisations to market their so-called healthy foods.

These companies, in turn, help fund researches so they could have more avenues of health marketing. It eventually becomes a truly vicious cycle for the lazy who don't do research and just read those mags : I would bet less than 10% of the world population actually benefit physically and mentally from such researches with bowdlerised publications.

Even if TRL makes some sort of rebuttal, it wouldn't even matter. I have seen a few local articles in our local news that is so sensationalised that it totally ignores scientific and logical sense. I.E : They published the article about Rapelay and calls it porn, and even imply that the game can be won by making the girls pregnant. But if they don't publish the article, nobody would buy their papers to read. Being well-informed means to inculcate a doubt in everything one reads, and constantly bait others for counter arguments so everyone actually learn something from the different sources they read from.

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To all you health junkies, I'm planning on out-living all of you. Genetics plays some role in how long and healthy we can live as well. Not to say smoking and drinking won't cut it down, but you could eat the healthiest foods in the world, and still drop dead of a heart-attack at 40.

I've got another 60 years easy.
You can further extend that life by not getting married or having children. Stress is a major factor that decreases lifespan, because it increases metabolism as more blood rushes to your head for flight/fight reactions, tiring your heart and brain out. Since the stress comes non-stop, you would just be taking your later years into living out that hectic moments.

Maybe this is the reason why the Japanese have such longevities. Probably a relation to the declining birth rates.

P.S I am just joking around in the last part. Please don't shoot me.
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Old 2010-02-09, 23:23   Link #6012
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Even if the last part wasn't a joke and was true, I still love kids and want a family of my own. So I'll take the loss of years on my lifespan for that dream.
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Old 2010-02-10, 01:04   Link #6013
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Don't know about kids, but married men live longer. I guess loneliness can get to you. Especially when you're sick and have no one to care for you.
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Old 2010-02-10, 03:13   Link #6014
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...I think we've turned the month's focus from Political Correctness, to What's Good for you?
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Old 2010-02-10, 06:13   Link #6015
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Operation Titstorm... another lost cause?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...10/2815605.htm
http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/securit...9300956,00.htm
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Old 2010-02-10, 06:36   Link #6016
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To be honest, I hate this. The Great Firewall of Australia. No way in hell will I stand for this, Stephen Conroy.
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Old 2010-02-10, 13:38   Link #6017
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Actually.... getting married and staying married is statistically a +5 year enhancement to your probable lifespan. Not being alone (staying very interactive) is also a lifespan enhancer. Staying active and participatory (feeling useful) is good as well.

Readers will note I did not say "don't drink colas" ... just choose what one eats and drinks more carefully. Gauge how much one is eating. Keep binging the system and there *will* be consequences. Besides, why do we want to reward "food" manufacturers for trying to fool us into buying their shit to eat?

On the "feeling useful" -- very problematic for most Americans these days:
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/20100...america-future
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The broadest measure of unemployment and underemployment (which includes people who want to work but have stopped actively searching for a job, along with those who want full-time jobs but can find only part-time work) reached 17.4 percent in October, which appears to be the highest figure since the 1930s. And for large swaths of society—young adults, men, minorities—that figure was much higher (among teenagers, for instance, even the narrowest measure of unemployment stood at roughly 27 percent). One recent survey showed that 44 percent of families had experienced a job loss, a reduction in hours, or a pay cut in the past year.
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Old 2010-02-10, 14:32   Link #6018
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To be honest, I hate this. The Great Firewall of Australia. No way in hell will I stand for this, Stephen Conroy.
the way western governments treating the internet these days i think they're in no position to criticize china mainland for 'regulating' the internet.
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the way western governments treating the internet these days i think they're in no position to criticize china mainland for 'regulating' the internet.
The "think of the children" and "lets call anyone under 25 "children" idiocies combine to make these crusaders look like utter fools. Modern day witchhunting... especially when they end up "burning" the children themselves (ref: phone pic child porn charged against under-agers)
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The "think of the children" and "lets call anyone under 25 "children" idiocies combine to make these crusaders look like utter fools. Modern day witchhunting... especially when they end up "burning" the children themselves (ref: phone pic child porn charged against under-agers)
See, this is the whole premise of my blog. Nobody in parliament will ever ask me what I want. They will only group me with the other 99% of 16yo boys who are the problem in their eyes and whose opinion is worthless. There's absolutely no way in hell I will stand for such a thing. My parents maybe, until the PPStream site becomes blocked.

The internet is supposed to be an open free resource. I will never stand for anything that threatens to change it.
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