|2004-08-20, 06:39||Link #1|
Join Date: Aug 2004
On the Threshold to Mangadom...
YOUR GUIDE TO THE VARIOUS CONCEPTS, GENRES AND COLLOQUIAL TERMS IN THE VAST WORLD OF MANGA
Action/Adventure: features an individual or a team on a certain holy quest. In this process the characters are ever becoming and grovelling to be stronger and stronger (stronger as in how much ass they can kick). This is duely to the fact that the evil side is always stronger to start with. The limit to how strong they can ever get is yet to be defined.
With no reference to their strength levels, all protagonists will initially have the superhuman endurance that allows them to be slammed into the wall, fall under a collapsed building or simply suffer a massive beating for entire chapters and yet be able to hung on to emerge victorious in the end.
It frequently features the themes of friendship, courage, devotion and male dominance; but consistently presenting a one-sided perspective into the matters.
Sports: usually features an extremely talented youth in what he/she does or a complete klutz. But talented or not, he/she will become a fully qualified and competetive sportsman within at most 19 episodes. For a genre that frequently advocates teamship, the protagonist will always get more character focus than anyone else.
Shoujo: a kind of manga that targets young girls as readers, overplaying stereotypical girlish fantasies, and emphais heavily on the romance between the opposite or the same sex.
Horror: a collection of short stories or a long-running series in which the characters repeatedly confronts ghosts, curses, haunted objects and various other scenes that are made to be as nauseating as the artist could possibly achieve. In this genre, anything piece of work which attempts to induce horror through a thrilling, original plot NEVER WORKS.
Detective/Thriller: features a teen prodigy with the uncanny ability to just HAPPEN to be in the crime scene at the right time, all the time and EVEN be a witness to certain stages of the crime so he/she can solve the case with a certain ease.
In every major event we were shown how a killer, prompted by an obscure motive, set out to a commit mass murdering with the most bizarre and elaborate methods but was eventually thwarted by our genius detective, who somehow managed to unravel the mysteries in a way that involves a disgusting amount of conversing bubbles. Leaving us to marvel at the degree of theatrics a Japanese will integrate into his/her murderous schemes.
Adult Oriented Materials: in Mangadom, this genre can denote: (1) porn, or (2) a series that aims to explore the key issues of the current society in a more critical (and sane) manner. Not much can be discussed about this type of manga since the former is just collection of arousing images and no one reads the latter.
Feel free to add your definitions to the various aspects of the manga domain.
|2004-08-20, 08:31||Link #2|
Just call me Ojisan
AnimeSuki Site Staff
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: U.K. Hampshire
I'm not that sure how tongue-in-cheek this is meant to be but you certainly have included a fair amount of misconceptions and inaccuracies. The biggest (for me) is how you state that this is limited to the "vast world of manga", the examples you list fully apply to anime as much as they do to manga (and for that matter a number of forms of entertainment).
And while much of this is subjective, you seems to mix in opinion and offer it as fact in a number of places.
These are two separate genres, not one. While many series can be considered Action / Adventure, there are many series which are just Action or just Adventure.
Sports:... the protagonist will always get more character focus than anyone else.
Since when has this been limited to Sports, it applies to most story telling.
If you're going to list Shoujo as a genre, then you should also include Shounen.
Shoujo: a kind of manga that targets young girls as readers
It certainly isn't targeted at young girls only.
Horror: a collection of short stories or a long-running series...
Since when has this been the exclusive domain of the Horror genre? This describes most anime and manga (as well as many other 'story' mediums).
...that are made to be as nauseating as the artist could possibly achieve.
Really? There are many Horror stories which don't attempt this.
In this genre, anything piece of work which attempts to induce horror through a thrilling, original plot NEVER WORKS.
Yet another opinion passed off as fact
Most likely two different genres. Thriller doesn't always involve Detectives, and what about Crime or Mystery.
features a teen prodigy
Again, a common feature across genres.
with the uncanny ability to just HAPPEN to be in the crime scene at the right time
This is true. "Darn those pesky kids" in true Scooby Do fashion. I often consider Miss Marple should be locked away considering how many murders occur whenever she's around.
Adult Oriented Materials:...(2) a series that aims to explore the key issues of the current society in a more critical (and sane) manner....[that] no one reads.
Rather dismissal of this, again opinion offered as fact.
As mentioned, what should be considered a genre is a matter of opinion. IMDb list these as genres in their Movie Database. AnimeNfo lists these genres. When AnimeSuki introduces genres, we will no doubt have a different combination.
|2004-08-20, 18:28||Link #3|
Join Date: Aug 2004
forget the PC crap and post your funny stereotypes already.
here is an excerpt from YuYu Hakusho's artist's comments column.
The Editor= someone who makes you wonder: is he the manga artist or am I the manga artist?
Blood splatter= an expressive manga technique used to signify danger, it's more tedious than sweating, but easier than having someone's heart stopping.
Applying tone= it used to be many manga artists' favourite chore, but....
Digression= often a mistake in storytelling, but if it receives an unexpected popularity, the entire plot must be restructured to accomodate it.
A positive, educational manga= something that no one reads.
|2004-08-21, 03:35||Link #4|
Bishoujo Goodness Galore!
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Stuck Between Reality and Fantasy
stereotype: for every 1 good post on a board, there are 100 useless ones
i do believe this thread falls under that category, more or less
i don't really believe in genres (unlike Viz, WHY is Tenshi na Konamaiki (Cheeky Angel) classified as action when they can go for 5 straight chapters without throwing a single punch?) since there's so many attempts at cross genres, interestingly enough, some of the cross-genres contradict one another:
Shounen/Shoujo: shows that have action that appeals to male readers/viewers, but relationships/characters that appeal to girls (FMA, Yu Yu Hakusho, Naruto, etc. all have this...if i hear one more screaming naruto fangirl i will lynch myself) note that Shounen is the primary, shoujo is the secondary
Shoujo/Shounen: admittedly, there are very few examples of Shoujo/shounen crossgenres: i've really only seen CLAMP successfully pull it off (of course, i'm the kind of guy who's not afraid to admit he reads Kare Kano and Fruits Basket) with series like X, Angelic Layer, MKR etc. actually, sometimes it's difficult to tell WHO CLAMP is aiming at with their series sometimes, i've come to the conclusion that, since they cross genres so easily (4 different people are going to have 4 different opinions on something, so i've noticed CLAMP manga will tend to target 2-4 different audiences i.e. Tsubasa, XXXholic, Angelic Layer, and Chobits).
Action/drama: the MOST popular cross-genre (excluding horror/thriller) most action series integrate drama at some point (and comedy)
Action/Comedy: second only to action/drama, action/comedy can also be combined with action/drama to form the 3 way cross genre: Action/Drama/Comedy (i.e. Rurouni Kenshin, Naruto, One Piece, most shounen anime/manga in general really) or "Actdramedy" (my new word)