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2003-12-01, 21:05 | Link #82 |
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I know I'm double posting, but I just have to address this issue.
Naruto was _not_ conceited ever. I will admit that when he did accomplish something his head blew up a little, but can't you guys see through that act? He was simply covering up for the weak person he was. Ever heard anything about the person in the group that talks the most shit? That's the one you go after first, because most likely they are the weakest. That had been proved in this anime over and over again. There was nothing for Naruto to be conceited about, he knew how weak he was that why he's trying so damn hard now. He even admitted to that in episode 59. |
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As much as i love him... im not gonna lie to myself and say he's perfect in every way. If you still dont believe it then i'll give you some examples. But... for now... we'll see... |
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2003-12-01, 21:16 | Link #84 |
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besides all the negative things people have said about the bitch sasuke, the number 1 reason for hating on this mofo is:
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The faggot can't get strong on his own so he has to seek help from oro. I respect his brother more then suke because the skills itachi gain was of his own hard work (in that sense) not given. sasuke = P.O.S. end of conversation. end of discussion. |
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2003-12-01, 21:54 | Link #86 | |
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It was an act, all an act!! Here's another of similar behavior example: Ever heard of a narcissist? Narcissists just act all high and mighty because in reality they are compensating the EXTREME emptiness they feel inside. So instead of admitting that emptiness inside of them they have to put on that act and make you feel like shit, because they feel like shit. Naruto acted all conceited and high and mighty because he was compensating for the weak person he knew he was. I don't deny at all that there were times when he did have a little blown up head due to the fact that he did accomplish something, which I don't blame him, he was proud of himself. But all of it was just an act. Even all the examples in the world can't disprove this truth, but only support it more. This does not at all make him perfect. He knew/knows that he's weak, but didn't want to admit that to anyone else. I guess the irony here would be even though he didn't want anyone to know how weak he was, in fact it was amplified even more by his actions so that everyone did know. Or maybe it was a coincidence.... |
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2003-12-01, 22:43 | Link #88 |
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I would have to agree with the Sasuke haters. First, Sasuke IS a prick that is putting Naruto down. That alone should be enough reason for me to hate him but another is that he is
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For certain reason, Viscious-san might appreciate this little story..When the simpsons went to Brazil the animators tried to show the social upside/downside of that country from the American perspective..Not surprisingly the episode ends up being an ethnic stereotype; the Brazilian government let their displeasure known and tried to sue the animation; Their case did not held ground because the argument made (from the animation side) was that how can they sue characters from the animation since they are drawn/fictional and those characters are the ones who did all the stereotyping..Clever, right? Here is the appreciable part..The Simpsons are banned from making anymore visits to any other countries without the explicit consent from US or from the respective country and that country gets to screen the content of the script ahead. My point is if you start to hate or like a character so much that any other opinion infuriates you than you have become obsessive and living in a fantasy world instead of the real one....Its good to have kicks through fantasy but lets not go too far.. Quote:
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2003-12-01, 23:43 | Link #91 | |
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[spoiler]Itachi strong who knows how. He even probably had a teacher to get stronger. Sasuke doing the same thing, find a overpowered teacher and ask him to teach him[spoiler] |
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2003-12-01, 23:57 | Link #92 |
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allright i think this thread has gone on for a long enough time that the original question is answered people gave their reasons why they hate sasuke mine included (btw i dont hate him cus hes lazy i was making the point of others more clear) but its obvious why people hate him i mean most posts are either repeats in different or the same words and the ones that arent are the first two pages and the replies/arguments to thoose and other posts
anyway i dont like to create reasons why i hate sasuke/his qualities or anything else but the reasons exist some people may think he is lazy and from their persepective that may be correct others like me think he is just a plain old a*s/prick which is very understandable by most hell thats why some like him about the whole he is more human then naruto well waht they are is that they have similar goals and radically different ways of going about achieving those goals and their personalities are virtually polar so neither of them is entirely human id say you take half sasuke and half naruto and you get an average person thats that anything else i missed dont think so let me just sum up this thread and then it can go on or be done i dont care really Most people that hate sasuke have good reasons backed up by the anime/manga and some have good reasons not backed up but a small percent have ridiculus reasons and are probably just jumping on the bandwaggon those who like him well most have generally good reasons backed by the anime/manga just like those who hate him and well the same goes for the others some arent backed up and some are stupid so in reality people hate him and like him for somewhat similar reasons i guess those are two different kinds of people that look for different good qualites and bad ones in others ok so people can hate sasuke for their personal preference in personality traits/qualities and people can like him for the same reason does this answer your questiion Ashhsin-kun it better cus i dont feel like writting this much again sorry for writting an essay guys but i kinda had to you know? |
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You are the baka. He wouldnt have chosen to use it if he wasnt bitten in the first place. He chose to follow Orochimaru because that was what the cursed seal did to him. And i dont think that searching for power to kill his brother is a sign of greed. If you wanna see a greedy shinobi then Orochimaru looks greedier than he. By the way, the double posting was an accident. |
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2003-12-02, 01:17 | Link #95 | |
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2003-12-02, 02:03 | Link #96 |
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Sasuke is just so weak. Playing cool and think that he we that best ninja around....damn he is weaker then Naruto....
Of course i would really want to se Sasuke with Byakugan instead of Sharingan....HAIL WHITE EYES!!!!! |
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2003-12-02, 02:38 | Link #98 |
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Despite me being a Sasuke-hater, I suppose you could call me, I will try my hardest to be objective:
Sasuke's good points 1. He has a driving rage to seek revenge. This will lead him to improve. Spoiler:
2. He has cool hair. You gotta love the cool hair. 3. He has a good voice actor. 4. He's hot. To be completely honest, those are the only good points I see in him. Sasuke's bad points 1. He's conceited to a fault. He's arrogant towards everyone, even his friends like Naruto and Sakura. He'd constantly chide them with a smug grin and doesn't try to befriend them. It's one thing to say that he's not trying to befriend EVERYONE, but the fact is that he's not trying to befriend ANYONE. AT ALL. 2. His driving force for revenge will ultimately be fruitless. Translation: he doesn't see far enough into the future, doesn't have enough introspection. Let's say he kills Itachi. What then? He said so himself: "I live for the sake fo killing my brother." What happens afterwards? I mean, what'll the angsty-mopey-waa-waa-waa-I-have-a-dark-past,-worship-me! boy do? Have tea with Sakura all day? 3. Some people say he's lazy. Others counter that by saying that he works hard, look at that huge improvement he made in 2 weeks. Well, let me ask you this: if he wasn't as lazy as you say, why didn't he just train 24/7 like Lee or Naruto? I mean, if I was going to kill someone who's infinitely stronger than me, I'd spend every waking moment working my butt off so I can whip him good. The fact that he DOESN'T do that shows that he's lazy, plain and simple. 4. Many people have pointed it out, but he DECIDED that he should give into Orochimaru's power, despite him witnessing the sheer evilness that Orochimaru possesses. The fact that he's willing to "take in the devil into his own body if only to kill his brother" is proof enough of his conceitedness and willingness to put others in danger for his own sake. Very greedy and selfish. There. I tried being completely honest, completely analyzing all sides, and that's what I came up with. In short, Sasuke's a character the fangirls will love for his looks and voice and cliched "dark past," but ultimately, he's nothing more than someone who is empty. Woo, vapidity! Damn, that's hot. -_- |
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1. Isn't that his character? Being an Evil Good guy. He does befriend Naruto not Sakura, but Naruto. He goes and train with him, he taunts him to be stronger then him. He even gave Naruto his first Kiss! (the end is irrelevent, but like you said he protected Naruto, he wouldn't protect him if he didn't consider him a friend. 3. Him still lazy? Just because the anime shows rock lee and naruto train all day and night that doesn't mean sasuke didn't train? the show is called "Naruto" not "Sasuke" No kidding they'll show naruto training. It's already proven he's not lazy, he ran up the tree with naruto. he trained with kakashi like how naruto trained with Jiraya. hell even garra got scared and knows how hard sasuke trained. remember garra was shaking 2. He's going to revive his clan meaning yes he will have babies with sakura. Your point being? Like naruto after he becomes hokage what then? He completed his dream. then what? Again stupid irrelevent point 4. What so he's supposed to put up with naruto and let him train so he won't be indanger? He has his own dreams and ambitions too. Again like i said, he never asked them to follow him they did it on tsunade's orders. Think about it, he's selfish for his own reasons he's not forcing others to butt into his problems. Can't you Sasuke haters think of better points instead of saying Oh! he caused Sakura to cry when he left he's a bastard blah blah blah. Most of your points are fallacies. |
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We both have different opinions. You have yours, I have mines. But what i am saying is that Sasuke wouldnt have chosen to follow Orochimaru in the first place if it were not for the cursed seal. So... you could say that it is a part of the cursed seals fault as it is Sasuke's. Though, I would highly doubt that he would choose that path if he were in such a situation. I feel like im missing something.... |
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