AnimeSuki Forums

Register Forum Rules FAQ Members List Social Groups Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   AnimeSuki Forum > Anime Discussion > Older Series > Nanoha

Notices

View Poll Results: Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha The MOVIE 1st - rating
Perfect 10 59 44.03%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 39 29.10%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 12 8.96%
7 out of 10 : Good 17 12.69%
6 out of 10 : Average 2 1.49%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 1 0.75%
3 out of 10 : Bad 1 0.75%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 3 2.24%
Voters: 134. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 2010-03-04, 08:26   Link #981
Nya~n
umbrella moe~♥
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: huh wha-?
the truth amuses, actually. the absurdity is hilarious. Like Neil Patrick Harris playing a straight character with satyriatis in How I Met Your Mother.
__________________
Nya~n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-03-04, 16:12   Link #982
Noe
HARDCORE Fate addict™
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Fate's futon ofc
Age: 22
Send a message via AIM to Noe Send a message via MSN to Noe
Fate is that type of a character to constantly break limits and keeps transcending the very boundaries of time and space.
__________________



ALL HAIL FATE T. HARLAOWN!
#Feitoism @ irc.rizon.net to revere, share, and cherish Fate Testarossa Harlaown.
My blog
Noe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-03-04, 16:15   Link #983
Keroko
Adeptus Animus
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Age: 26
The problem is that the very thing that makes Hei so awesome is that he's a cold, emotionless badass.

So unless you're saying Fate is cold and emotionless...
__________________
Keroko is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-03-04, 16:21   Link #984
RadiantBeam
Test Drive
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: USA
Age: 23
Send a message via AIM to RadiantBeam Send a message via Skype™ to RadiantBeam
Fate could become cold and emotionless under the right set of circumstances...
__________________
RadiantBeam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-03-04, 16:29   Link #985
Keroko
Adeptus Animus
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Age: 26
Yes, but that'd be the very thing Fate fans -or at least the ones around here- don't want.

If Fate were a guy, he'd be a shy guy who blushes at nearly everything, yet strong when the battle calls. In the first season he'd be an emotionally stunted kid abused by his mother (or father if we go for a full genderswap).

If Force is anything to guy by, Fate would have a lot less fans, since like Force, the very traits that made the girls special are suddenly 'generic.'
__________________
Keroko is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-03-04, 16:31   Link #986
Noe
HARDCORE Fate addict™
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Fate's futon ofc
Age: 22
Send a message via AIM to Noe Send a message via MSN to Noe
Fate displays a character trait of stoicism in the first season but she wouldn't be cold or ruthless unless her mother really wanted her to. (so she can be cold/emotionless if she wanted to I admit but I'll still admire her as long as she possesses that unwavering determination still) I find Hei's qualities of being a composed and 'in control' individual to be higher on my list of likable characteristics.
__________________



ALL HAIL FATE T. HARLAOWN!
#Feitoism @ irc.rizon.net to revere, share, and cherish Fate Testarossa Harlaown.
My blog
Noe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-03-04, 16:35   Link #987
Kaijo
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow, in a house dropped on an ugly, old woman.
Send a message via AIM to Kaijo Send a message via MSN to Kaijo
Hmmm... So, if we do an AU where Fate is a guy and Yuuno is a girl... It would be intriguing, from a scientific standpoint, to see the fan base reaction, heh. See how much perception changes based on a simple gender change.
Kaijo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-03-04, 16:36   Link #988
RadiantBeam
Test Drive
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: USA
Age: 23
Send a message via AIM to RadiantBeam Send a message via Skype™ to RadiantBeam
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noe View Post
Fate displays a character trait of stoicism in the first season but she wouldn't be cold or ruthless unless her mother really wanted her to. (so she can be cold/emotionless if she wanted to I admit but I'll still admire her as long as she possesses that unwavering determination still)
So.... Fate can be cold and emotionless, and quite possibly much more ruthless than how she originally was in the first season if Precia wished it, and you still would have liked her for her "unwavering determination"?

...

Meh, to each their own.
__________________
RadiantBeam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-03-04, 16:43   Link #989
Keroko
Adeptus Animus
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Age: 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noe View Post
Fate displays a character trait of stoicism in the first season but she wouldn't be cold or ruthless unless her mother really wanted her to.
Which means she wouldn't be a Hei. Which was my point, really. Genderbending Fate won't make her a Hei, because the very traits that make Hei, Hei are the traits Fate briefly skimmed past in S1, and completely abandoned afterwards.
__________________
Keroko is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-03-04, 18:00   Link #990
*AlEx*
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
T_t

where can i watch the movie!!!?! >///<
*AlEx* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-03-04, 22:36   Link #991
Blank-Mage
Maniacal laughter ensues.
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: My own delusions of grandeur.
Age: 26
I wouldn't say that Hei is a complete jerk, though. He shows compassion for a few people, Havoc and Yin being the first two that come to mind. He's only really ruthless to his enemies. I wouldn't go so far as to say they're similar, but (season 1) Fate and Hei do share some stoic traits. The difference is that Hei is a ruthless killer to his enemies, and indifferent to anyone who isn't Yin, whereas Fate is apologetic to her enemies, and indifferent to anyone who isn't Precia. It's a pretty big difference.

Then again, I haven't watched DtB Season 2 yet. Maybe Hei's changed, I dunno.
__________________
Blank-Mage is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-03-04, 23:25   Link #992
Demi.
Ass connoisseur
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Florida
Age: 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by RadiantBeam View Post
So.... Fate can be cold and emotionless, and quite possibly much more ruthless than how she originally was in the first season if Precia wished it, and you still would have liked her for her "unwavering determination"?

...

Meh, to each their own.
A character willing to do anything for the one they love is a really attractive character trait, imo.

...But it has to be done right. Showing sympathy to the ones they wrong is the difference between done right, and done wrong. As well as the future influence it has on said character. Needs to be emotionally strong themselves, as well as sympathetic to others. And that makes win, to me. If you're going to take the darker path, you shouldn't emo about it. It was your own choice, so either stop doing it, or take it in stride.

Though I think deep down, Fate isn't capable of killing. One of those characters that will falter at the final moment and face the consequences because of it.
__________________
Demi. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-03-05, 00:00   Link #993
isagrimorie
Zombie Slayer in Training
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Asia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keroko View Post
Yes, but that'd be the very thing Fate fans -or at least the ones around here- don't want.'
Not this fan, I'm actually more intrigued by Fate's potential to be cold and emotionless when needed. I like how it can be possible and still be 'gentle and nice' when out of the battlefield. I like duality.
__________________
grimorified.com | archives
isagrimorie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-03-05, 00:17   Link #994
Kaijo
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow, in a house dropped on an ugly, old woman.
Send a message via AIM to Kaijo Send a message via MSN to Kaijo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Demi. View Post
A character willing to do anything for the one they love is a really attractive character trait, imo.

...But it has to be done right. Showing sympathy to the ones they wrong is the difference between done right, and done wrong.
Yes, I agree. I'd like to see that trait from more people who consider themselves fans. How can one be a true Nanoha fan, if they disrespect what Nanoha stands for by *not* showing sympathy to others? It really makes me chuckle to see such fans act in ways that the characters they idolize, wouldn't. The real characters would strive past all differences to get along.

Probably wandered a bit off topic, but I'm still intrigued by the idea of a Dark Fate. One who was abused under Precia until she was 15 or 16 years old. More time to turn Fate into a darker individual, who still loves mother, but plots to be better than her, heh.
Kaijo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-03-05, 00:43   Link #995
Demi.
Ass connoisseur
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Florida
Age: 27
Hey, a lot of times characters are idolized because they're capable of being something we are not.

<-----
__________________
Demi. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-03-05, 00:59   Link #996
Kaijo
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow, in a house dropped on an ugly, old woman.
Send a message via AIM to Kaijo Send a message via MSN to Kaijo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Demi. View Post
Hey, a lot of times characters are idolized because they're capable of being something we are not.

<-----
That's what fiction is ultimately about: making up a story with characters, to showcase themes and traits more clearly than you could in a nonfiction story. In one respect, we'll never be Nanoha. But the main reason we watch is because we admire the characters due to the traits and attitudes they possess.

That's a big motivator for me; I like Nanoha, so I don't want to tarnish what she represents, by disregarding what she would do in situations. Thus, I'd rather talk things out with people where I can, and only resort to force if attacked. Above all, try to avoid being mean if possible. It's like saying: "Yeah, I like Superman, so in his name, I'm gonna hurt a lot of people." How can you be for something, if you actively go against everything that it represents?

I'd really question their mental stability. :P
Kaijo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-03-05, 01:08   Link #997
Archon_Wing
Hater
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Being totally ebillll
Age: 30
Send a message via MSN to Archon_Wing
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaijo View Post
That's what fiction is ultimately about: making up a story with characters, to showcase themes and traits more clearly than you could in a nonfiction story. In one respect, we'll never be Nanoha. But the main reason we watch is because we admire the characters due to the traits and attitudes they possess.
Ah, well said. To me, it gives hope for something that we could work towards achieving.
__________________
What appears to be a moment for the helper feels like an eternity to the helpee.
Avatar and Sig courtesy of TheEroKing
Guild Wars 2 SN: ArchonWing.9480 (Stormbluff Isle)
MyAnimeList || Reviews
Archon_Wing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-03-05, 02:01   Link #998
MeisterBabylon
~ Ping For Effect ~
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: The Golden Throne
Age: 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by RadiantBeam View Post
Fate could become cold and emotionless under the right set of circumstances...
Yes! \o/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Keroko View Post
Yes, but that'd be the very thing Fate fans -or at least the ones around here- don't want.
OBJECTION!

Precia-rization is the only way Fate's going to improve in my eyes.

Donning a mask on a killing spree that actually uses her lightning talents? Sign me on!

Hence why L-chan had a strange hypnotic pull over me...

But Fate surpassing the Doctor, the Professional, the Black Reaper?! As a sworn fan of both, I am objective enough to say HELL NO.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Keroko View Post
If Fate were a guy, he'd be a shy guy who blushes at nearly everything, yet strong when the battle calls. In the first season he'd be an emotionally stunted kid abused by his mother (or father if we go for a full genderswap).

If Force is anything to go by, Fate would have a lot less fans, since like Force, the very traits that made the girls special are suddenly 'generic.'
Agreed.
__________________

On money: Every man has a price. For everything else, there's MakoCard.
MeisterBabylon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-03-05, 03:34   Link #999
Keroko
Adeptus Animus
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Age: 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by Demi. View Post
A character willing to do anything for the one they love is a really attractive character trait, imo.
Didn't seem like that during our last Fate debate though.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Demi. View Post
Though I think deep down, Fate isn't capable of killing. One of those characters that will falter at the final moment and face the consequences because of it.
Which is why Fate wouldn't be, and can't be, a Hei.

Quote:
Originally Posted by isagrimorie View Post
Not this fan, I'm actually more intrigued by Fate's potential to be cold and emotionless when needed. I like how it can be possible and still be 'gentle and nice' when out of the battlefield. I like duality.
Good to know, claim withdrawn.
__________________
Keroko is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-03-05, 04:12   Link #1000
Demi.
Ass connoisseur
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Florida
Age: 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keroko View Post
Didn't seem like that during our last Fate debate though.
It's all about intent. I think Fate would consider killing some one for the sake of her mother, but at the same time, I don't believe she's capable of finishing the job.Resulting in consequences for herself.

Quote:
Which is why Fate wouldn't be, and can't be, a Hei.
Naturally, though I never said she was or could be. I only argued that "who is cooler" is open to interpretation. Then again, my attachment to Fate isn't because she oozes pure concentrated cool.
__________________
Demi. is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 22:12.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
We use Silk.