2010-03-19, 09:29 | Link #41 |
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It's called specialization.
Kuroko's teleportation is "Generic Teleportation". It allows her to teleport whatever she touches and herself. It's strength lies in quickness of the person itself. It is pretty much balanced and isn't overpowered in itself. Awaki's Move Point is a more powerful version of Kuroko's "generic teleportation". She has higher marks in range and mass limit, but how it works is the same thing. Awaki is just better in many aspects. The only thing is that, she has a tendency of losing her focus using it on herself and develops a trauma of using it on herself. [Note: she was once stuck on a wall when she once tried using teleport on herself. Not a comfortable experience.] Saraku's Kill Point is "Relative Coordinate Teleportation". He can only jump to the target's back, and unless the location of that person is given, then he can't use his ability. Very limited, but is useful in assassinations or surprise attacks.
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2010-03-19, 10:13 | Link #42 |
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Thank for the answer ^^
I want to ask more about "Kill Point" 1. It has no limited range? 2.About [the location of that person must be given] - He need to see the target or just tell him where is the target? (for example if Rikou uses AIM-Straker to tell the location of the target, can he go there?) 3. How does his ability tell which side of the target is front or back? (Well, doesn't important much, really) 4. Can the target be other than human? (animals or object) ................................... - Can teleportation use with the gas? (oxygen, for example) |
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The basis of the Teleportation power that Kuroko use requires her to physically touch that object/person. This is because her calculation simply marks that object at Point '0', from there on it's a matter of calculating the distance to her targeted location from her. Move Point works on a completely different method. Awaki doesn't have to touch the object to teleport it, but in exchange, she has to take into account the individual positionings of those object, as well as the distance from the targeted location. That's why it's call 'Move Point' and not 'Teleportation', to show the difference. Quote:
It's abit difficult to grasp the 'location' of gases isn't it?
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2010-03-19, 13:59 | Link #45 |
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Can we leave the magic discussion and all of the Crystal Dragon Jesus in the generic discussion thread?
Seriously, debates about Index science usually end up like this: Person A has a claim. Person B comes and disproves it, not because he is more familiar with the Crystal Dragon Jesus magic, but because he has read ahead and knows more future events. Person C comes in and read the author's blog, and disproves person B. ETC. Then, the next volume comes out. It turns out the new bad-guy has special powers that have contradicted previously established "laws of magic". When people say To Aru magic is "arse pull" they aren't only referring to the obvious historical discrepancies. It's the inconsistencies of magic that allows it to magically fill plot holes without even blinking. Unlike ToAru Magic, the rules of physics don't change with every novel. Last edited by babohtea; 2010-03-19 at 14:13. Reason: shortened it. |
2010-03-19, 18:37 | Link #46 |
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they are not discussing about to aru magic. From what I read from the previews post they are discussing about the ability teleportation and the people who specialize in it and what can they do and not do on their ability.
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2010-03-19, 20:25 | Link #47 |
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A couple of posts back they were debating whether or not to include the magic in the discussion, and earlier they were debating the "physics" behind Touma's imagine breaker. Which then lead to a "Holy Stone"/"He's not really an Esper"/"AIM" discussion.
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2010-03-20, 04:07 | Link #48 | |
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Anyway, let's get back to it.
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2010-03-20, 23:30 | Link #53 |
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Well, There was the incident with the 'Dragon's Head', you can speculate what Aureolus Izzard said about being shocked at the detail of the 'Dragon', and wondered if it was truely something that his Ars Magna had created. That's the only time he displayed any form of alternate power, whether it's his or not.
'Dragon' in the toaruverse, as well as ours, can be seen as symbol of great evil, and not always a literal dragon. But to answer your original question- No, nothing have been revealed, and that's why it's so frustrating.
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2010-03-21, 01:26 | Link #54 |
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its so frustrating and the same time its exciting. Being in a dragon in to aru verse doesn't really mean evil it means power. Just like what fianma's right hand signifies the dragons claw. And what if the awaken Imagine Breakers form is the dragons head.
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2010-03-21, 03:15 | Link #57 |
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but if you look at fianmma carefully. The dragon's claw doesn't really comes out of his right arm rather just from his right part of the body. Like for example the dragon's breadth which comes from different dimension. At first we thought that it comes from the mouth of index but someone corrected it. The dragon's breadth comes from the rift of space or rather the crack that appears from their the legendary dragon breath his deadly breadth. So assuming its possibilities and from what little details we get. The IB breaker is what seals away the devils and bring forth 1000ths years of peace. And if we use it as a key then touma should can access its power too.
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2010-03-21, 07:23 | Link #59 |
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WHAT! ITS ABOUT HIS OWN HOLY RIGHT!? then what is imagine breaker? the one who will destroy the seal? because if Fianmma needed touma and knowing IB's ability. I can't think of anything other than total destruction of the seal just like what happen to index in vol 1.
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2010-03-21, 14:45 | Link #60 | ||
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In my opinion I don't think Fiamma has the real power of the miracles. The purpose of the miracles is to change the hearts of the people and what Fiamma is doing seems to be performances rather than miracles. |
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