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Old 2010-03-20, 15:15   Link #801
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Exactly. Chapters 4-13 in a row all have the covers. And now they're appearing more sporadically. Like 15-16, 19-20, 24, 27.

In any case, they're covers. They have nothing to do with the story and I'd hardly call them out of place. It IS romance series folks. And I for one am not ashamed to admit I like them and hope Kei gets to do a lot more of these covers.

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Old 2010-03-20, 18:33   Link #802
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The intensity level is different. The ch 27 and this one are just too much.
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Old 2010-03-20, 19:00   Link #803
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The intensity level is different. The ch 27 and this one are just too much.
No such thing as too much. Lighten up. Besides, you can hardly whine about ch 27 when there have been covers where they wore even less. I liked them, but they seem to be things that would make you uncomfortable.
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Old 2010-03-20, 19:10   Link #804
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They make me uncomfortable because they are not what this manga is about. I would understand the cover like the one with shackles and so on because it has a double meaning but this one...

GE has almost no fanservice (specially after beginning) but the covers are making it look like it is one big fanservice whore show. I do not like it trying to sell it for something that it is not, that's all.
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Old 2010-03-20, 19:22   Link #805
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GE has almost no fanservice (specially after beginning) but the covers are making it look like it is one big fanservice whore show. I do not like it trying to sell it for something that it is not, that's all.
Hmm... I have no qualms about fanservice but you do have a point there.
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Old 2010-03-20, 19:41   Link #806
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They make me uncomfortable because they are not what this manga is about. I would understand the cover like the one with shackles and so on because it has a double meaning but this one...

GE has almost no fanservice (specially after beginning) but the covers are making it look like it is one big fanservice whore show. I do not like it trying to sell it for something that it is not, that's all.
Are you serious? -.-
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Old 2010-03-20, 19:45   Link #807
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Yes I am. I am not happy when the cover do not match the content, be that books or other things. Because it seems like the author cannot sell it well in normal means and for the value he/she chose for that creation to represent, and try to deceive the reader or whoever by pretending to be something that it is not.
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Old 2010-03-20, 19:52   Link #808
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Is posting links to manga readers allowed on this site or not? Because I posted an OM link yesterday, and got corrected within 5 minutes. Yet no one seems to mind the MF links. Are there certain sites that aren't allowed? I'm not complaining, just trying to understand the rules.
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Old 2010-03-20, 20:09   Link #809
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It is actually. People tend to forget on these manga threads because their not as heavily moderated as the anime threads where the Mods lurk more often...
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Old 2010-03-20, 20:53   Link #810
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It is actually. People tend to forget on these manga threads because their not as heavily moderated as the anime threads where the Mods lurk more often...
Ah okay, thanks for the answer. I'll keep that in mind.
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Old 2010-03-20, 21:04   Link #811
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Yeah try posting a manga site on a Bleach, One Piece or Naruto thread and be prepared to be banned
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Old 2010-03-20, 21:28   Link #812
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The intensity level is different. The ch 27 and this one are just too much.
If it were a girl solo in her casual sleeping robe, normal swimsuit, or just erotic poses, it wouldn't be so catchy for me. Throwing them all together into erotic uniforms taken from a car exhibition is just weird.

Covers should present characters that the chapters focus on, fanservice or not.
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Old 2010-03-20, 22:10   Link #813
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Is that so? Then I better remove the links before the mods burn my ass off.

In any case, at this stage we can all establish that darknemo will just about criticize every aspect of the manga...no exceptions. It is not like that's a bad thing I suppose. Like I said, this might be the only colour cover she is getting for some time, you can never be too sure about things like that when serialising manga. I think she would want to squeeze as many of the "main girls", in the running for Utsumi, into a picture as possible. Colour covers not fitting the content is pretty common, especially for newer mangas.

Many girls + fanservicey picture + lets put them in similiar outfits! = this cover. It is not too hard to guess the thought process that went in there.

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Old 2010-03-20, 22:53   Link #814
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MF links are not supposed to be allowed. They'll probably get corrected soon.
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Old 2010-03-20, 22:59   Link #815
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Yes I am. I am not happy when the cover do not match the content, be that books or other things. Because it seems like the author cannot sell it well in normal means and for the value he/she chose for that creation to represent, and try to deceive the reader or whoever by pretending to be something that it is not.
Oh please. Again, lighten up. It's hardly important how well a shonen manga cover, of all things, matches the story. Have you seen some of the Bleach covers? One of the essences of shonen practically, and they're pure fanservice. But don't claim to know that the author's trying to deceive people with these covers without actual evidence. Besides, you make it sound like people are so dumb they can't read past a cover, or that they'll somehow be crushed that the story isn't as fanservicey as the cover.

Hell, even if she is trying to 'deceive' them, I know what the series is about already so I just enjoy the covers. And you know what the series is about too, so stop worrying about deception and acting all concerned for poor sensitive readers, making it a way bigger deal than it is, and just enjoy the very lovely eye candy as pre-chapter treat.
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Old 2010-03-20, 23:31   Link #816
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You can be against fan-service in general. I don't see the problem with not liking fan-service o_o. In a story I care about a lot of different things. Plot, pacing, development, characters etc. If those are mediocre, fan service can drive me away from a series.

I'm okay with this series in general, but even I think the fanservice is overly excessive. Am I going to stop reading the series? Probably not unless it becomes disgustingly pornographic. Am I going to make a comment about it in order to make known to the world my superior standards of morality? YES.

Seriously though, his problem about fanservice is his problem.
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Old 2010-03-20, 23:39   Link #817
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You can be against fan-service in general. I don't see the problem with not liking fan-service o_o. In a story I care about a lot of different things. Plot, pacing, development, characters etc. If those are mediocre, fan service can drive me away from a series.
This isn't about the story. It's about the covers. The story itself is extremely light on fanservice when compared to real ecchi series. And covers detract nothing from a story.

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I'm okay with this series in general, but even I think the fanservice is overly excessive.
It's really not, and covers do not make it so.

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Am I going to make a comment about it in order to make known to the world my superior standards of morality? YES.
Really? Are you joking here? I honestly can't tell if this is a serious statement.
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Old 2010-03-21, 00:02   Link #818
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I was most definitely joking. I know it's hard to understand sarcasm on text, but a lot of writers get away with it all the time, so...
(Hint: Notice the underlined bold italics)


If your standard of fan-service is different from mine, that's fine. Covers can be fanservice. Fan service, to me, is an attempt to draw readers in with unnecessary sexual content. Art, in a way, fanservice to books, but not to manga because pictures are an integral part of manga. A really beautiful book cover can be considered "fanservice", and that's why I don't think fanservice by itself is bad.

Yes, the covers are therefore fan-service. I'm not going to bash the storyline or drop the series because of it, but I should be able to have my say.
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Old 2010-03-21, 02:30   Link #819
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Oh please. Again, lighten up. It's hardly important how well a shonen manga cover, of all things, matches the story. Have you seen some of the Bleach covers? One of the essences of shonen practically, and they're pure fanservice. But don't claim to know that the author's trying to deceive people with these covers without actual evidence. Besides, you make it sound like people are so dumb they can't read past a cover, or that they'll somehow be crushed that the story isn't as fanservicey as the cover.

Hell, even if she is trying to 'deceive' them, I know what the series is about already so I just enjoy the covers. And you know what the series is about too, so stop worrying about deception and acting all concerned for poor sensitive readers, making it a way bigger deal than it is, and just enjoy the very lovely eye candy as pre-chapter treat.
Aagain I don't read Bleach so I have no idea what you are talking about and am not willing to get into anything Bleach/Naruto related.

It is not the problem with fanservice - I do not have a thing about - heck I like reading Nana and Kaoru and the likes, the problem is that it completely mismatches the series.

Throwing some covers once in a while - maybe, but the author is pulling them way too many and the last one was the over-the-top (in bad sense) of it. What is too much is too much.
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Old 2010-03-21, 03:30   Link #820
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Well , i don't mind Yuki's cover in chap 27
If the author likes to make those covers , let her do as she wants ^^

Edit : Yeah the author is a female mangaka

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