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Old 2010-03-31, 10:18   Link #121
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i have to agree with almost everything negative that has been said about Eden. i'll try to expand on some things and throw my nasty 2 cents in...
Spoiler for series + movie 1:

Spoiler for movie 2:

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"Sad age where people base their opinions on hearsay and throw their weight around to make it appear as truth and fact, uh?"
these comments come from ppl who dont trust others and arent into analyzing themselves.
you know, some ppl actually can give a prognosis of wherther they'll like shows or not and they will come true in 90% of the number of shows. its a matter of knowing when the reviewer is more or less objective or a fanboy and knowing what you like and dislike.
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Old 2010-03-31, 10:36   Link #122
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you know, some ppl actually can give a prognosis of wherther they'll like shows or not and they will come true in 90% of the number of shows. its a matter of knowing when the reviewer is more or less objective or a fanboy and knowing what you like and dislike.
But unless you're clairvoyant there's no way of knowing how much you'd actually enjoy it if you didn't read spoilers and the like.

And you know 90% of statistics are lies?
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Old 2010-03-31, 10:51   Link #123
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you know, some ppl actually can give a prognosis of wherther they'll like shows or not and they will come true in 90% of the number of shows. its a matter of knowing when the reviewer is more or less objective or a fanboy and knowing what you like and dislike.
You'd be able to tell how Gungrave would unveil from the first episode alone?

I wish I knew more geniuses like them.
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Old 2010-03-31, 11:02   Link #124
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I liked it for what it's worth. The plot itself of Eden never really did anything for me (I feel like I've seen this plot before), but I enjoy the character interactions a lot, and we got quite a bit of it in the movie.

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Spoiler for Paradise Lost:
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Old 2010-03-31, 11:58   Link #125
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Just watched the 1st movie, but it's only a quick watch so I haven't had any opinion about it yet. But this one thing bugs me:

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Old 2010-03-31, 16:07   Link #126
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http://jphinano.wordpress.com/2010/0...t-in-paradise/ spoilers for the second movie... not overly fond of the ending : /
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Old 2010-03-31, 17:07   Link #127
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Just watched the 1st movie, but it's only a quick watch so I haven't had any opinion about it yet. But this one thing bugs me:

Spoiler for 1st movie:
Agreed about Juiz.
Spoiler:
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Old 2010-03-31, 22:18   Link #128
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Wow, people are gonna deprive themselves of the rest of the movie cause they clicked a spoiler link just to see how the main storyline ended and went,
'Ah to hell with this!' *rant rant*

After watching the series and keeping tabs for a year now, you may as well see it to the end, there's more than just the Selecao and the game in this, you know. Also it's Kamiyama as the director. Things are rarely black and white with this dude.
(Makes me kinda glad to have seen it blind now, lol)

I find it a royal shame however that there's this set of Western anime/manga fans online that claim to enjoy Japanese animation and related works but instead of going in on the same level as the natives (as in blind) and experiencing and interpreting the works without the influence of major ass spoilers, people scream
'I can't wait! Gimme naaaaaaao!'
(Yes you can, you won't die otherwise, just as you wait for sequels of Hollywood movies)

Then go and jump ahead and spoil themselves therefore diluting their expectations and opinions based off text and then make judgements off of it.
Then seriously, why bother watching and following an anime series that didn't have a manga (so it was original and no one really had a heads up on it), so it was meant to be 'fresh' right until the end for you, but you go and deprive yourselves of that?
Doesn't make sense to me, but I've laid this series to rest, so it's cool.
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Old 2010-03-31, 22:48   Link #129
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so i watched the first movie and i really gotto say it was pretty bad.
i actually think the series was good and interesting all the way to the end, but really, the only memorable scene of the whole movie was the very first scene with the guns.
after that, i dont know what happened... nothing at all realy. takizama didnt do anything at all throughout the whole movie, everyone else was mostly talking, considering all the crazy things and scenarios that happened throughout the series, all that magic is completely gone.
Like others have said, this was material for an episode of the series, certainly not a whole movie.
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Old 2010-04-01, 00:09   Link #130
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they should have stayed with the oasis theme song. I didn't care for the "beautiful days" or whatever its called OP.

What about you guys--Like or Dislike?
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Old 2010-04-01, 02:27   Link #131
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Wow, people are gonna deprive themselves of the rest of the movie cause they clicked a spoiler link just to see how the main storyline ended and went,
'Ah to hell with this!' *rant rant*

After watching the series and keeping tabs for a year now, you may as well see it to the end, there's more than just the Selecao and the game in this, you know. Also it's Kamiyama as the director. Things are rarely black and white with this dude.
(Makes me kinda glad to have seen it blind now, lol)

I find it a royal shame however that there's this set of Western anime/manga fans online that claim to enjoy Japanese animation and related works but instead of going in on the same level as the natives (as in blind) and experiencing and interpreting the works without the influence of major ass spoilers, people scream
'I can't wait! Gimme naaaaaaao!'
(Yes you can, you won't die otherwise, just as you wait for sequels of Hollywood movies)

Then go and jump ahead and spoil themselves therefore diluting their expectations and opinions based off text and then make judgements off of it.
Then seriously, why bother watching and following an anime series that didn't have a manga (so it was original and no one really had a heads up on it), so it was meant to be 'fresh' right until the end for you, but you go and deprive yourselves of that?
Doesn't make sense to me, but I've laid this series to rest, so it's cool.
Can't speak for anyone else, but I'm not a person who is afraid of spoilers. Ultimately, all stories end the same way anyway, so it's the execution that's more important than the actual plot.

That said, I'm just interested because in 4 months, I'm not going to remember anything about the series.
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Old 2010-04-01, 03:16   Link #132
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Hmm, for me the movie was good. Not much actions, I know, and yet more questions than answer, but I loved the pacing, and Kamiyama's way of slowly unveiling everything. I am still waiting for movie 2 to really see the whole picture tho
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Old 2010-04-01, 04:33   Link #133
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The problem is that the trailers always sell it as something fast paced and action-packed, but it's...well...not...
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Old 2010-04-01, 08:52   Link #134
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Wow, people are gonna deprive themselves of the rest of the movie cause they clicked a spoiler link just to see how the main storyline ended and went,
'Ah to hell with this!' *rant rant*

After watching the series and keeping tabs for a year now, you may as well see it to the end, there's more than just the Selecao and the game in this, you know. Also it's Kamiyama as the director. Things are rarely black and white with this dude.
(Makes me kinda glad to have seen it blind now, lol)

I find it a royal shame however that there's this set of Western anime/manga fans online that claim to enjoy Japanese animation and related works but instead of going in on the same level as the natives (as in blind) and experiencing and interpreting the works without the influence of major ass spoilers, people scream
'I can't wait! Gimme naaaaaaao!'
(Yes you can, you won't die otherwise, just as you wait for sequels of Hollywood movies)

Then go and jump ahead and spoil themselves therefore diluting their expectations and opinions based off text and then make judgements off of it.
Then seriously, why bother watching and following an anime series that didn't have a manga (so it was original and no one really had a heads up on it), so it was meant to be 'fresh' right until the end for you, but you go and deprive yourselves of that?
Doesn't make sense to me, but I've laid this series to rest, so it's cool.
I don't like spoilers =X haha! I haven't read the plot summaries for the second movie (although it's littered everywhere now >_>) because I hate being spoiled.
However, I like reading reviews because I want to hear the general feedback of whether or not fans liked it. It helps me with expectation levels lol =P
With the second movie though, I'm going to watch it regardless so it makes no difference to me. I don't see the point in watching the entire series + 1 movie and dropping it.
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Old 2010-04-01, 09:14   Link #135
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Agreed about Juiz.
Spoiler:
This seems to suggest that
Spoiler for movie 1:
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Old 2010-04-01, 14:33   Link #136
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Can't speak for anyone else, but I'm not a person who is afraid of spoilers. Ultimately, all stories end the same way anyway, so it's the execution that's more important than the actual plot.
Amen, I'm the same way. I'm a sucker for great animation and music.

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Old 2010-04-01, 17:18   Link #137
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Heres a link to the subbed version of "The King Of Eden".

http://www.animeultima.tv/eden-of-th...den-episode-1/

Watch only.
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Old 2010-04-01, 18:11   Link #138
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Unlike some other people, I watched the movie because I really liked the series--it is stylish, interesting, and very meaningful.

Spoiler for movie I:


Overall, this was a good continuation of the series, and I'll be glad to see movie 2 when it comes on dvd.
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Old 2010-04-01, 18:26   Link #139
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The problem is that the trailers always sell it as something fast paced and action-packed, but it's...well...not...
Well, Eden was never fast-paced or action-packed to begin with
Why would the movies suddenly change for that? I always thought Eden was more of a 'thinking' series instead.
Unless you were talking about movies in 'general'...then nevermind what I said lol

Well, like what many have expressed here, I was sadly disappointed.
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Old 2010-04-02, 05:14   Link #140
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Well, Eden was never fast-paced or action-packed to begin with
Why would the movies suddenly change for that? I always thought Eden was more of a 'thinking' series instead.
Unless you were talking about movies in 'general'...then nevermind what I said lol
The whole series. The first trailer for the 11 episodes suggested it would be fast-paced and it never was. I guess i always hoped that it would become fast-paced in the films. Even though i doubted it myself, it's still anoying that they would sell the films as fast-paced aswell. I'm tempted to call it false advertisement.
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