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Old 2010-04-15, 08:16   Link #1181
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omg, she's alive!! secret character?! haha.. i wish.
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Old 2010-04-15, 16:16   Link #1182
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Here's the matchup chart taken from Dustloops: http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showp...09&postcount=1



Simple way to look at this chart for those who don't understand is that, it is also the tier list, top to bottom. Bang on top, to Rachel at the bottom, and the top row is Bang on the left to Rachel to the right in the same order.

The numbers tell you how each character does against each other. Lets look at Rachel vs Bang, 35 - 65, meaning in 100 matches, Rachel will win 35 times and Bang will win 65 times.

As you can see, Rachel does badly against all characters, except for Arakune and Hazama at 50 - 50. She is solid bottom tier lol

Fio is the strongest Litchi who can corner and combo you from anywhere on the map and Keita the strongest Tao with mastery of the Taunt loop. These guys are the worse nightmares for even Matsu.

EDIT: for Arakune instead of Lambda
So my best character has been made the worst to play as. Not sure how I feel about that. It looks more like they just reverse the tiers from the previous game as well.
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Old 2010-04-15, 16:26   Link #1183
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Haha, well well... Why am I not surprised at some of these ratings? Hazama is lower tier then what I expected. Still, Lambda is what I figured.

Tager on the bottom is probably because of his speed... Still, he hits hard enough. What matters is how you do with him.

I prefer Hakumen, and honestly? He is still looking good from the charts. Too bad for the Rachels~
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Old 2010-04-15, 17:08   Link #1184
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that's the thing about Litchi. if you block incorrectly once, it'll throw you into the same 4k combo every time. and that combo takes like 20 seconds to do. annoying to watch, and i'm sure is even more annoying to play against. i just hope they speed up the game a bit. i never liked the longer matches that CS brought in.
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Old 2010-04-15, 18:53   Link #1185
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Ahh, need to catch up in the BlazBlue fandom.... *just found out that there were Rachel dakimakura sold at C77*
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Even so, Sugita (Ragna) managed to snag the spot as my favorite guy on the show. Not only does the guy have very clever humor but the opening segment "Scold Me, Ragna-kun" (followed by epic headbanging) is absolute gold every time. xD
But he's the only real guy on the show. Yes, Freedom Sugita's humour is awesome. I still feel sorry for Kondom. Haha, I forgot how she has trouble reading things properly.
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That's okay. I guess it shouldn't be too surprising. Usually I picture Japanese women who ocasionally wear kimonos these days to be fairly shy and fragile, so yeah. (Not to say that they all are though.)

It's kinda ironic she's M when she voices a character (Rachel) who's so obviously S. xP
Ueda Kana is totally not shy and fragile, lol. She always wears kimono at formal events, like the Fate/stay night movie premiere this year. I'm guessing it has to do with how she was brought up in Osaka.

Kana-sama has said bestiality for some reason on her own radio show and it wasn't censored wut. She's also addicted to Halo and enjoys Monster Hunter. Not your typical girl. Though I agree that the number one spot to go on a date would be a net café, lolol.

y u censor Arcs ;_;
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Old 2010-04-16, 04:38   Link #1186
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that's the thing about Litchi. if you block incorrectly once, it'll throw you into the same 4k combo every time. and that combo takes like 20 seconds to do. annoying to watch, and i'm sure is even more annoying to play against. i just hope they speed up the game a bit. i never liked the longer matches that CS brought in.
The dreaded "I'll make you fall asleep" combo.
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Old 2010-04-16, 08:21   Link #1187
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Hey, that reminds me to Fate Unlimited Codes and its 30-hit BnB's!

Good times... not.

Nice to see Hakumen going up in the Tier List, somehow. He was one of the characters with more changes from CT to CS. Why was Guren's command reversed, I will never know.

Tager looked promising at first with those new stuff, but he's still at the bottom. Not so happy about that.

Poor Rachel.
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Old 2010-04-16, 08:47   Link #1188
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well tiers shouldn't affect who you use anyways. If it did, we wouldn't have Mike Z and his Tager.

Anywho, I can't decide who to start learing when this game comes out. Taokaka, Tsubaki, and Hazama all seem really fun.
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Old 2010-04-16, 09:24   Link #1189
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well tiers shouldn't affect who you use anyways. If it did, we wouldn't have Mike Z and his Tager.
But Mike Z is an incredibly skilled player; Tier Lists are there for a reason... In supposedly equal terms of skill, some characters can be "better" than others.

Just enter Street Fighter IV online, pick Zangief and fight against Sagat. With lag. It's frustrating.

Half-kidding. Perfectly balanced games are inexistent, and it all depends on terms like the character's popularity and the skill of the players controlling them...

Still, there are ERRORS like, yeah, CS Bang and Litchi or CT V-13. 10 years of many versions of Guilty Gear have brought an apparent balance to the game, but people like Eddie or Testament are still pretty annoying and tiring to play against.

Not to mention characters which got successive nerfs for no apparent reason, like Johnny or Bridget. Or, in this case, Rachel, who got a bit too much downgraded.
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Anywho, I can't decide who to start learing when this game comes out. Taokaka, Tsubaki, and Hazama all seem really fun.
I personally like the new Hakumen (I already liked the CT one, but this one is even more fun to play), Tager and Tsubaki.

Tsubaki is cool, sexy and nice to play. Still, she has some issues:

1.- Her damage is pretty low and you have to perform her combos perfectly if you don't want to get a disadvantage.
2.- You have to know perfectly when to charge your Drive. Otherwise you won't get your enhanced specials, and thus you won't have your damage improval.
3.- If you fail at using your D moves or your Distortions (which aren't the best thing ever), you're screwed.

At least those were my first impressions of her. I seriously hope for a little upgrade for her in the console version. Also get ready to have some good Training hours if you want to learn Taokaka.
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Old 2010-04-16, 11:07   Link #1190
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Lol, that video was pretty awesome, but I was lmao when Jin used his counter drive on Hakumen, only to get hit by Haku's Astral Finish.

<3 Hakumen
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Old 2010-04-16, 16:40   Link #1191
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I personally like the new Hakumen (I already liked the CT one, but this one is even more fun to play), Tager and Tsubaki.

Tsubaki is cool, sexy and nice to play. Still, she has some issues:

1.- Her damage is pretty low and you have to perform her combos perfectly if you don't want to get a disadvantage.
2.- You have to know perfectly when to charge your Drive. Otherwise you won't get your enhanced specials, and thus you won't have your damage improval.
3.- If you fail at using your D moves or your Distortions (which aren't the best thing ever), you're screwed.

At least those were my first impressions of her. I seriously hope for a little upgrade for her in the console version. Also get ready to have some good Training hours if you want to learn Taokaka.
Meh, no character is perfect, but she seems to be a lot more fun when it comes to rushdown than Ragna.

With Tao, I assume it's gonna be long time before I can effectively play her. Hopefully I can get a stick before I get this game though, and learn both at the same time >_>
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Old 2010-04-17, 06:41   Link #1192
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Haku will most likely be more smooth as a result, though I'm worried about the forementioned Guren command change. (It's my second favorite move outside of Zanshin)
Don't worry, you get used to it almost automatically. The input is just mirrored after all.

Haku keeps his classical grab - Guren - wall bounce - 6C combo, but its damage has been reduced from ~3000 to ~2500.
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Old 2010-04-17, 16:14   Link #1193
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Has anyone got any good hi-res CGI of Haku-men? I've yet to really see any good quality of Haku-men CGI (the one where he took his mask off for Ragna was a real tear jerker on my part.)
Wait, where is that scene from?

(Speaking of Hakumen CGs, the pic you can buy in the shop is pretty cool, too.)
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Old 2010-04-17, 16:48   Link #1194
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this one?
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Old 2010-04-17, 16:51   Link #1195
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On the PSP, I didn't twig that he had the mask in his hand in that picture - or the dialogue saying he was showing his face.

(I should go through that scene again.)
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Old 2010-04-17, 21:28   Link #1196
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the first one screams badass.
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Old 2010-04-18, 01:09   Link #1197
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I went through Hakumen's story to get the 100% - and I caught it, thanks.
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Old 2010-04-18, 01:19   Link #1198
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If people are putting up images does anyone think they can direct me a to the Rachel and Ragna image where Rachel was touching his cheek, was rather heartwarming actually.
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Old 2010-04-18, 02:01   Link #1199
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Hmmm...well I have access to the arcade version of Continuum Shift now, but haven't really bothered to check out too much of the re-balancing. I played Bang a little though and he definitely seems to be doing more damage per hit then he did in Calamity Trigger.
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Old 2010-04-18, 02:54   Link #1200
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I had a go at this in the arcades of Japan but I have to say I don't understand the first thing about its system (and I'm lazy to find out).

Since Iceland sucks I'm stuck for a few days in Tokyo, can anyone link me to somewhere where I can get the basics for the system? TIA.
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