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Old 2004-09-10, 16:13   Link #61
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Im getting tired of all the whinning about this being like DBZ and if it goes this way im going to stop reading it bullshit, well if thats how you feel run along no one cares, go read another manga.

I feel that this isnt naruto and sasuke powering up , persay, they are pushing themselves to a limit there body has never been , and in result they are "getting stronger" , i think them fighting each other with all they have is breaking there regular lvl of power and that in turn is making them both stronger, this isnt DBZ lvl 1 2 3 4 5 , super saiyan bullshit.

my 2 cents.
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Old 2004-09-10, 16:16   Link #62
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Oh wow this chapter was SO predictable! I mean before it was released I saw like a crap load of threads where people predicted this exact stuff happeneing! Like everyone allready knew that Sasuke would read Narutos movements and send him flying and like everyone knew already that sasuke would acknowledge his strength and like everyone knew already that the kyuubi would give naruto more power, and that like all your complaining is fucking annoying. If you don't like the manga (like many have been saying for the past few chapters) then don't read it. It'll make you a happier person.
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Old 2004-09-10, 16:34   Link #63
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you guys are eadily bored, hard for me to be bored by 18 pages of manga. also i think many of you call manga boring when yu read a raw... you are missing half the story... of course its booring. As far as how sharingan works from a hasty translation i read hes using his extra dot + the cursed seal to see farther ahead it seems. BTW no matter how fast you move if someone can predict your movements enough ahead of time they can counter. 60 mile an hour cars easily avoided if you now where its gonna be 10 seconds ahead of time. its like... predicting the right pitch in baseball. Anyhow its true you knew what was gonna happen, but really what else could happen? I think its interesting that naruto was getting beat up, it implies kyuubi isnt all that, at least the way naruto uses it now in spite of whatever boosts it guves him he can still get beat up. also from the trans i read kyuubi indeed gives him power, seems kyuubi like naruto to win.. or fears death maybe. anyhow i figure this battle will get interesting in 2-3 chapters, by then the regular too and fro in power levels should be over.

on a side note, naruto is getting nothing out of this battle but a beating, sasuke is learning new moves, how to better control sharingan, whatever hes gonna learn using seal the first time. naruto is learning... how to let the demon fox take over... and really that will be useless against the right fighters, who will screw up his ability to use the demon or incapacitate him before he can.
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Old 2004-09-10, 17:01   Link #64
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boy... you better be grateful... to me, and to that 4th hokage that sealed me in you....

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Old 2004-09-10, 17:03   Link #65
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I dont know if I would say that Naruto isnt gaining anything from this battle. Honestly he is becoming more mixed with kyuubi and more comfortable in using Kyuubi's chakra. This is a huge advance for Naruto. Everyone was shocked when they saw how well Naruto was in control last chapter. Especially with the power that he was puttin out. Kyuubi seems to be warming up to Naruto know and atleast helping out in whatever way he can.

From this chapter we see that Naruto has been able to mix a little more with Kyuubi. And the more mixing the better!
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Old 2004-09-10, 17:12   Link #66
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Wow, I waited a whole week just to read chapter 228 again, that sucks.

The first few chapters of this fight were good, ending with cliffhangers or dramatic pauses, but not its just becoming a powerup fight, soo boring. Kishimoto is dragging this fight out waaayyy to long. It will be 2007 and Kakashi will show up. Last week I was happy that Naruto dropped out of ultra Kyuubi rage and that Sasuke acknolegdged him, maybe something cool would happen. Nope, just chapter 228 again. Stop with this powerup business, either end the fight or have someone interrupt or something, but please for god sakes no more power up battles.
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Old 2004-09-10, 17:13   Link #67
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i don't see much control in naruto's use of the kyuubi, so i'm gonna have to disagree with you. it looked to me that kyuubi was saving his ass again by empowering naruto.
also, kyuubi is a bastard that just doesn't want to die. :P. i'm pretty sure he hates everything and everyone; including naruto.
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Old 2004-09-10, 17:21   Link #68
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i don't see much control in naruto's use of the kyuubi, so i'm gonna have to disagree with you. it looked to me that kyuubi was saving his ass again by empowering naruto.
also, kyuubi is a bastard that just doesn't want to die. :P. i'm pretty sure he hates everything and everyone; including naruto.
Before the end of chapter 230 naruto was and has been in total control. he even recalled memories that he had with Sasuke. Naruto has been in total control and he has shown it a couple of times. Do you need me to show you a pic or something?
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Old 2004-09-10, 17:44   Link #69
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in your previous post you made it sound like naruto was in control of kyuubi, as if using the energy at will. naruto was about to die, kyuubi erupted. i don't see naruto behind the wheel there. if you mean that he's able to form cohesive sentences and not be a complete animal when empowered, then ok, whatever that means.
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Old 2004-09-10, 17:56   Link #70
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i wonder if he will tranform like gaara does?

Well the monster inside gaara has some killer juts. I hope we can see some nine tails jutsus. ANd for all wqho say that u need seals to do jutsu rember that rasengan doesnt need it, and the monster inside gaara didnt used seals to use it power. I wonder what kind of jutsu woould nine tails use. I wonder he will become nine tails completely. nine tails in its true form. and with the killer jutsus.
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Old 2004-09-10, 18:01   Link #71
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Does anyone think it would have been cooler for Naruto to have summoned some human-sized frogs to restrain Sasuke instead of going to what appears to be Kyuubi, level 2?
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Old 2004-09-10, 18:10   Link #72
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i just wish it was still naruto vs sasuke. it looks like kyuubi's seal is fried and sasuke is up against a demon....again. :P. that kid is always getting the bad matchups.
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Old 2004-09-10, 18:10   Link #73
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OK....

First i love DBZ,and i started to watch Naruto mainly because it was heading in similar direction,fights,not goku or vegita or some characters,its good fighting. And Naruto is a story of its own... it would be disapointing if it comes to noskill and no power and no anything,just jutsus.... Its a diferent story with some characters that can suprise even the strongest ones,and beat them... like kabuto VS Tsunade.... All expected for Tsunade to smash Kabuto into the ground,but it didnt happened that way....
Anyway...

This powerup thing is great to me,i like to see when characters advance (easy or otherwise) in power and skill.....

Sharingan didn't help much Sasuke in this chapter,it was him that could read naruto and predict where he will be in few moments,sharingan just enables him to see him.

I think next few chapters will be Sasuke geting beeten up,with CL2 or not.
Remember that Naruto didnt see any of the transformations,so he dont know what CL2 is... he will be suprised,but i dont think Sasuke stands a chance....
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Old 2004-09-10, 18:15   Link #74
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I have a very strange feeling that.... if naruto gets any more power ups, that he will literally become kyuubi.... because the last time with haku, kakashi sensed that the seal was breaking, so maybe it will break....
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Old 2004-09-10, 18:26   Link #75
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hold on a second, does sasuke even know his eyes have progressed? like, did he know he awakened the sharingan against haku? i say that because right now he seems to think that it's the cursed seal's affect that's giving him the ability to read naruto's movements.
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Old 2004-09-10, 18:43   Link #76
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heh, I remember an old thread, where I was telling everyone how the Sharingan's vision works, and everyone told me to stop assuming. It was very obvious how it works. Thank Kishimoto for finally explaining it to those in denial.

Anyway, the Naruto you guys see at the end..........really isn't Naruto, it's Kyuubi
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Old 2004-09-10, 18:54   Link #77
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Since i am also getting annoyed by now (that Naruto in the last pic with tail etc just looks rediculous) i think the seal will break soon, Kyuubi will be free, everyone has to join forces (including itachi) so everyone can fight Kyuubi. In the process Orochimaru will die, the face of Kakashi will be revealed and everyone will live happily forever, after they killed the kyuubi. honestly, i just don't care anymore HOW things will turn out, because naruto is loosing too much of it's charm it had in the beginning.
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Old 2004-09-10, 18:56   Link #78
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The Kyuubi in the cage thingy(like in c.230) is an anime original, ne?

I guess Kishimoto thinks that 'tis was cool so
he adds it to his manga.
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Old 2004-09-10, 19:09   Link #79
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i swear, when the anime catches upto here, there better not be any 20 minutes of screaming and transformation.
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Old 2004-09-10, 19:11   Link #80
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Heh, Kyuubi comments that Naruto should thank the 4th for sealing it inside him...aww, it is enjoying this.

Too bad next chapter will probably be Naruto's beating up Sasuke, and then in the end Sasuke will finally turn Lv2. God, that should've happened a while ago. >_>;;


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heh, I remember an old thread, where I was telling everyone how the Sharingan's vision works, and everyone told me to stop assuming. It was very obvious how it works. Thank Kishimoto for finally explaining it to those in denial.
I know what you mean. I've waited too long for this...no longer will we need to "speculate" when explaining exactly how Sharingan helps with motion prediction.

Too bad it's too little too late...Sharingan isn't going to save his ass from Kyuubi.

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hold on a second, does sasuke even know his eyes have progressed? like, did he know he awakened the sharingan against haku? i say that because right now he seems to think that it's the cursed seal's affect that's giving him the ability to read naruto's movements.
According to JoJoHot's translation, Sasuke isn't aware of the third dot in his Sharingan and still thinks his enhanced sight is due to his body's familiarity with the Cursed Seal by now. He feels rather fortunate that he can rely on his eyes and conserve chakra because he is well aware of Lv2 Curse's side-effect...but not for long!

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The Kyuubi in the cage thingy(like in c.230) is an anime original, ne?
Wasn't it in the manga as well...?
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