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Old 2010-06-18, 22:36   Link #3861
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I think we're having a misunderstanding here, when I said "in anime" I meant "as depicted in anime" not "in anime (job field)".
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Old 2010-06-19, 03:26   Link #3862
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What is it in Japanese high schools and making it against the rules to find part time work in Anime? Whats the reasoning behind this and why is it so prevalent? I could never figure this out with only casual inquiries.
A lot of people do work part time in anime series, the problem however is when you go to a Japanese school it is not a simple 9-4 procedure. Many students in RL have clubs that come after school times, go to school on Saturday so there is not much work to pick from besides what you see as a bartender which many parents and students do not want because it is seen as an obscure job as it is very late in the evening and might get your grades down because of lack of studying.

Jap schools should not be compared to western schools, we have a lot more freedom while their people are boosted to preform perfect and be involved with school and not things that might interfere with school performances. To mimic that image they based it on RL (though in anime it is still very softened, the real schools are hardly anything like those in the animations)
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Old 2010-06-19, 10:53   Link #3863
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A lot of people do work part time in anime series, the problem however is when you go to a Japanese school it is not a simple 9-4 procedure. Many students in RL have clubs that come after school times, go to school on Saturday so there is not much work to pick from besides what you see as a bartender which many parents and students do not want because it is seen as an obscure job as it is very late in the evening and might get your grades down because of lack of studying.

Jap schools should not be compared to western schools, we have a lot more freedom while their people are boosted to preform perfect and be involved with school and not things that might interfere with school performances. To mimic that image they based it on RL (though in anime it is still very softened, the real schools are hardly anything like those in the animations)
The Japanese system is almost the reverse of the American system. What I've generally heard, supported by my Japanese language instructors, is that in Japan, students study like crazy throughout middle and high school in order to try and advance into a prestigious high school or university, respectively. A somewhat average schedule might have students in school up until the early afternoon, after which they might engage in after-school clubs for a few hours, and then they go on to after-school tutoring that goes until some time in the evening. It's all a frantic effort to get into those brand-name schools.

By comparison, in America there is also something of a push to get into a respected university, but it's not nearly on the level as it is in Japan. Going to a well-known (usually private) high school can help you to get admission and/or scholarships, but going to an unknown high school won't really count <i>against</i> you.

Once Japanese students reach the university level, things become a joke compared to the American experience. Japanese universities are incredibly easy, and university students generally pick up part-time jobs and have a good time. (The jobs are generally taken in order to fund the good times.) How well-known/respected the university is pretty much directly impacts your job prospects - not your performance (which is critically easy), hence the casual attitude about it.

Again by way of comparison, while there are students who treat the American university experience as one big party and while there are programs of study that are pretty easy, most students need to put in a at least a decent amount of work to excel. University performance, extracurriculars, and other appropriate experience are the things that factor into your job prospects - the name of your university alone won't make or break your ability to get a job with any given company.

I haven't seen any shows where high schoolers are looked down upon for working part time, but in theory it would make sense. What high school you go to has a strong impact on which university you can go to. Which university you go to either opens doors or closes them to various job positions and with various companies. Given how important it is, it would be total false economy to do a bit of part-time work instead of putting in the hours of study that your peers are.
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Old 2010-06-19, 11:53   Link #3864
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Ledgem, you're extrapolating everything. There's no such thing as hard or mandatory tutoring. There's good teachers, bad teachers, good subjects, bad subjects. And the push you speak of is everywhere these days. You don't really believe students of medicine follow this loafing strategy you describe as well, do you? There are quite a few other topics I could say the same. And whoever told you what you know most likely hasn't experienced anything more then one, so lets not generalize so much.
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Old 2010-06-19, 22:10   Link #3865
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Is there anything wrong with a high red blood cell, white blood cell count with low CO2 levels during a blood test result?
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Old 2010-06-19, 22:45   Link #3866
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Is there anything wrong with a high red blood cell, white blood cell count with low CO2 levels during a blood test result?
1. Polycythemia
2. Leukocytosis
3. Hypocarbia

The polycythemia and the hypocarbia are usually a chronic reaction to low oxygen intake, otherwise it could signify a problem with hemoglobin oxygen transport systems. Leukocytosis is expected in infections.

If the pathologist notes abnormal morphology of the rbcs and wbcs, it could suggest leukemia but will require further tests. Hypocarbia alone can suggest metabolic alkalosis.
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Old 2010-06-19, 23:44   Link #3867
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Ledgem, you're extrapolating everything. There's no such thing as hard or mandatory tutoring. There's good teachers, bad teachers, good subjects, bad subjects. And the push you speak of is everywhere these days. You don't really believe students of medicine follow this loafing strategy you describe as well, do you? There are quite a few other topics I could say the same. And whoever told you what you know most likely hasn't experienced anything more then one, so lets not generalize so much.
No, I'm not extrapolating anything. And of course it's a generalization - we're discussing two cultures at large, aren't we? Is it possible to avoid making generalizations under such a broad scope? Am I a bad person for assuming that people wouldn't realize that it's a generalization and that it isn't an absolute truth about everyone and everything? Do people believe every damn thing they read on the internet without thinking?

I never said that the tutoring was mandatory. The point is that there, the schools you go to in Japan are much more critical than here in America, and as such there's a lot of pressure on people to do well on the various exams (particularly entrance exams) to get them into those schools. Hence, going to tutoring after school is an effort to give an advantage and remain competitive against those who are going to tutoring. Oh, I guess it's an extrapolation to claim that a part-time job would be frowned upon because it takes time away from possible studies, but that's my trying to reason out how the original question came to be. After all, I'd never heard that it was frowned upon, myself, but I take it that the question was raised because this was something that was observed.

I took a few years of Japanese, and heard what I shared from multiple Japanese teachers. Those were people who were born and raised in Japan. But you know what? Since people are neg-rep happy and enjoy being argumentive even though I'm just trying to share what little shred of knowledge I have to someone who was seemingly interested in the topic, maybe I should include a disclaimer here that it isn't an absolute truth about every single person in Japan and that the differences are things I've noted on my own, so think about my words but don't just accept them as the explanation for everything.

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Old 2010-06-20, 00:29   Link #3868
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1. Polycythemia
2. Leukocytosis
3. Hypocarbia

The polycythemia and the hypocarbia are usually a chronic reaction to low oxygen intake, otherwise it could signify a problem with hemoglobin oxygen transport systems. Leukocytosis is expected in infections.

If the pathologist notes abnormal morphology of the rbcs and wbcs, it could suggest leukemia but will require further tests. Hypocarbia alone can suggest metabolic alkalosis.
My hemotocrit levels are normal : it is just that I was hospitalised for hyperventilation last night. The blood test results state that I have higher RBC (2.93) and WBC (2.8x) levels accompanied by below average CO2 (1.8) levels in my bloodstream, but the rest are normal (myoglobin, etc).

I am still reeling from the effects of breathlessness and I am thinking of taking another trip down to the hospital.
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Old 2010-06-20, 01:35   Link #3869
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My hemotocrit levels are normal : it is just that I was hospitalised for hyperventilation last night. The blood test results state that I have higher RBC (2.93) and WBC (2.8x) levels accompanied by below average CO2 (1.8) levels in my bloodstream, but the rest are normal (myoglobin, etc).

I am still reeling from the effects of breathlessness and I am thinking of taking another trip down to the hospital.
Well there's your problem! Hyperventilation reduces blood CO2 leading to hypocarbia, metabolic alkalosis and respiratory acidosis. Signs and symptoms are usually neurological and can vary depending on the degree of hypocarbia.
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Old 2010-06-20, 10:16   Link #3870
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How does one introduce anime and manga studies to a group of people (who have never heard of anime and manga as a serious study subject)?
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Old 2010-06-20, 10:35   Link #3871
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Depending of the group of peoples.
But I would suggest the ''comparaison with something serious than they well know'' approach.
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Old 2010-06-20, 12:41   Link #3872
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Well there's your problem! Hyperventilation reduces blood CO2 leading to hypocarbia, metabolic alkalosis and respiratory acidosis. Signs and symptoms are usually neurological and can vary depending on the degree of hypocarbia.
I thought hyperventilation resets the CO2 levels in the blood to equilibrium level as it perceives that there isn't enough oxygen in the bloodstream.
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Old 2010-06-20, 22:16   Link #3873
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How does one introduce anime and manga studies to a group of people (who have never heard of anime and manga as a serious study subject)?
First you need to make sure that this group of people sees any kind of pop culture as a subject worthy of serious study. >_> A lot of people can't appreciate consumer media.

Then, I'd suggest introducing them to serious, probably old classic anime . Nothing uber popular and tagged as a kiddie/pubescent fanboy series (Dragonball for instance), nothing overloading on moe. And Miyazaki will be your best friend; for some reason or another, people see his works on a much higher level than other anime, even though what he makes is anime too; most won't mind appreciating his stuff.
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Old 2010-06-21, 00:33   Link #3874
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I thought hyperventilation resets the CO2 levels in the blood to equilibrium level as it perceives that there isn't enough oxygen in the bloodstream.
Not necessarily because of the Bohr Effect, which states that as CO2 and/or proton concentration in the blood increases, hemoglobin affinity for Oxygen decreases. Increased breathing is the only effective expulsion compensatory response for an increase in blood CO2 levels because CO2 is more easily released from the blood than O2. By hyperventilating you release more CO2 than the usual rate, which if there was no imbalance in the first place causes an imbalance between acids and bicarbonates. pH increases and you have a net increase in bicarbonates which makes blood more alkaline. Your body's compensatory response would be to piss out more bicarbonates in your urine to bring back pH to the 7.35-7.45 range.

In the ideal sense you should only hyperventilate if you actually have dropped blood pH levels as a compensation. Dropped CO2 levels CAN be normal if your acid-base balance is normal and/or blood pH is in the normal range.

In either case it depends on the entirety of your Arterial Blood Gases (ABG) panel to see if the CO2 drop is normal or not.
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Old 2010-06-21, 16:32   Link #3875
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Silly question time....

Recently it's cold, and whenever i turn on the heater and do not leave so much rooms for inflowing air. I got a headache. Then slightly open the door will immediately end this

My guess is because of the heat air lead to slightly higher pressure and a thinner oxygen concentration -> headache. Anyone can confirm this?
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Old 2010-06-21, 16:42   Link #3876
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I doubt that, otherwise heaters would come with warnings about suffocation for people who are sensitive to oxygen concentrations.

I have a few guesses:
1) Your heater might be putting out some sort of chemical in the air (perhaps carbon dioxide generation) that you're sensitive to;

2) Heaters tend to "dry the air" - some people are very sensitive to humidity levels (or lack thereof)

3) Sudden heat could cause a dilation of blood vessels, inducing a headache.

In all three cases, keeping the door open allows for an equilibrium to be maintained more easily. Granted, none of the three seem terribly likely to me, but who knows...
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Old 2010-06-21, 16:54   Link #3877
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It's an electric one so CO2 is not an issue. And even at low watt but with a shut door, it still cause headache while at a higher one it does not. So the 3rd option is unlikely as well.

Yeah it could be due to the lack of moisture in the air. Let turn on the moisture machine and see if it will go away

Thank there
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Old 2010-06-21, 17:13   Link #3878
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Silly question time....

Recently it's cold, and whenever i turn on the heater and do not leave so much rooms for inflowing air. I got a headache. Then slightly open the door will immediately end this

My guess is because of the heat air lead to slight higher pressure and a thinner oxygen concentration -> headache. Anyone can confirm this?
The equilibrium in an open system for air is always constant. In your case it would be a semi-open system, so the partial pressure of oxygen should remain at 21% of the overall atmospheric gas. However this is diatomic oxygen, not single oxygen atoms, so the heat from your heater may have dissociated them when intaking air to heat up, and when they leave they heater in monoatomic versions, they immediately bond with other molecules to achieve chemical stability, attributing to the loss of oxygen in the air rather than the idea of hot air.

I discounted the idea of having free oxygen radicals in the air due to its high electronegativity : it is more likely to form molecular bonds than remain in its singular atom state.

It could also be the increased body temperature that tells the body to take in more oxygen and result in the headache. Ask our resident doc-to-be.....I am not good in biology.

EDIT : Recently I have taken up the hobby of verbal prankstering and I am starting to enjoy the "let's kill this guy" look from people's face. Usually it goes something like :

Friend : Don't ask so many questions. Curiosity kills the cat.
Me : I thought cats have more than one life.
Friend : *cringes and shows that look*

or

Friend : The government's new CPF policy rules are just using our money to pay for their investment failures!
Me : I thought the money was given to us by the government in the first place.
Friend : *cringes and shows that look*

or

Bad-tempered female friend of mine : It is nice of you to send me and my sis off.
Me : Yah. Sorry I couldn't get you both white lilies.
*gets punched*

I am starting to ENJOY seeing the annoyed looks on their faces. Am I crazy or what?
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Old 2010-06-22, 00:57   Link #3879
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EDIT : Recently I have taken up the hobby of verbal prankstering and I am starting to enjoy the "let's kill this guy" look from people's face. Usually it goes something like :

Friend : Don't ask so many questions. Curiosity kills the cat.
Me : I thought cats have more than one life.
Friend : *cringes and shows that look*

or

Friend : The government's new CPF policy rules are just using our money to pay for their investment failures!
Me : I thought the money was given to us by the government in the first place.
Friend : *cringes and shows that look*

or

Bad-tempered female friend of mine : It is nice of you to send me and my sis off.
Me : Yah. Sorry I couldn't get you both white lilies.
*gets punched*

I am starting to ENJOY seeing the annoyed looks on their faces. Am I crazy or what?
Well... enjoy seeing the annoyed looks on people's faces are not fine. You simply turned into a sadist if you enjoy doing so (good thing about that is: if you turn psycho, you will be promoted from 'mad man' to "super evil villain" )

But that kind of teasing are quite normal through. I love the last one. The problem in my case is: most of my friends or relatives probably won't realise the anime subtext of it. So it will never work
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Old 2010-06-22, 11:38   Link #3880
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A set of pages back you were wondering and talking about the troubles of friendship and friends being mean to you.. and you didn't understand why they were acting like the way they do usually...
To me this isn't really a silly question anymore either.. you're not a sadist to me it seems more like attention begging
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