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Old 2010-06-24, 22:34   Link #1261
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So what?

At least we're getting more episodes, just like you guys wanted. Don't expect it to be your way, though. >_>
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Old 2010-06-24, 22:38   Link #1262
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I beg your pardon?
Well excluding the guns + hand sonics + (you get what i mean).

I mean like in this world. How many times have people taken things for granted? Once things start to fall apart, people are quick to put all the blame on God (like Yuri).

Also, when you have someone like Kanade who is very reserved to herself because she doesn't bother in making new friends (because they would disappear). Again, very realistic, especially when I see people sitting away in corners by themselves in school because of bullying and etc.

And here you have Otonashi, who like Terry Fox has something drastic happen to him, decides to shape his life for the purpose of helping others but circumstances/fate gives it a different turn, but both leave behind a legacy for which others can follow.
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Old 2010-06-25, 01:01   Link #1263
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Fanservice episode?
Please god no. The anime already got cheated by only getting 13 episodes, can this extra please shed some light on the darker corners of the story, of which there are a lot of?
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Old 2010-06-25, 02:36   Link #1264
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Let's just stop assuming for now. Look at the date: December 22, 2010.
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Old 2010-06-25, 08:54   Link #1265
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Let's just stop assuming for now. Look at the date: December 22, 2010.
Kanade After? I would cry in joy if this happens!
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Old 2010-06-25, 17:30   Link #1266
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Jun Maeda is the principal writer for this series right? Then it can't be good.
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Old 2010-06-25, 17:35   Link #1267
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Jun Maeda is the principal writer for this series right? Then it can't be good.
Hm? Have you played Clannad, Little Busters, or Air? At least seen the corresponding anime?

I hope I misinterpreted you, and if so, then please excuse me.
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Old 2010-06-26, 03:29   Link #1268
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Hm? Have you played Clannad, Little Busters, or Air? At least seen the corresponding anime?

I hope I misinterpreted you, and if so, then please excuse me.
No, I meant what I wrote.

I didn't really want to touch anything KEY again after After Story as it's the same overblown melodrama again presented in a slightly different manner. I tried watching the first 3 episodes of Angel Beats! and I already knew that this is pretty much KEY's Standard Operating Procedure.
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Old 2010-06-26, 03:32   Link #1269
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The last episode is getting bashed quite severely in the Ep13 thread. But overall I really enjoyed this show.

In order to enjoy this series, you really have to throw logic out the window. It is not meant to be a series that has all the dots connected for you at the end. It's much more of a touchy-feely show. If you do not immediately gravitate to Otonashi's kindness or Yuri's inner struggles as a leader, then this show is not for you. It's melodramatic so get your popcorn, pump up the speakers and enjoy - for goodness sake. Don't overanalysis or It will cost you the show. The theme of redemption is presented very clearly in this show, see it and feel it with your heart.
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Old 2010-06-26, 04:10   Link #1270
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Old 2010-06-26, 05:06   Link #1271
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Let's just stop assuming for now. Look at the date: December 22, 2010.
Oh, so it's going to be a Christmas special then.
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Old 2010-06-26, 05:20   Link #1272
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My view on the anime, and the message Jun Maeda is trying to send across. Hopefully, this will clear up some confusion and misunderstanding some people have about this anime.

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Old 2010-06-26, 06:12   Link #1273
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I like how you've got a lot of interesting observations in your long paragraphs. But man those sentences don't flow. Very hard to read so I had to give up 2/3 way.

I really like that Yui observation. Her episode had no OP or ED that I can recall.

Also in Angel Beats, it seems that adversity is never permanent. The enemy keeps changing, the plot keeps twisting but the fundamentals of the high school will always remain the same. PEOPLE's views change. People's views clash with others' views. Some are radical (matrix reload guy, Naoi). Others are benign (Yui).

The reason why the show never locks down on one particular plot point and develops from there is because it doesn't believe its afterlife setting has one. Maybe it is a little bit like what Attorney was saying, that it is a statement on existentialism. Personally I would not make so many jumps of logic regarding existentialism and all. Not all symbology in Angel Beats needs to be 1:1 in representation of another facet of real life. Having read most of Maeda's works, he is not a writer that is capable of organizing all of his thoughts to that degree of literary brilliance (He IS an eroge writer after all). To me, All symbolism needs to do, is to create a 'feeling'. I do not 'feel' that the haphazard storyline and constant plot twists were altogether meaningless, intentional or not.
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Old 2010-06-26, 12:28   Link #1274
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The last episode is getting bashed quite severely in the Ep13 thread. But overall I really enjoyed this show.

In order to enjoy this series, you really have to throw logic out the window. It is not meant to be a series that has all the dots connected for you at the end. It's much more of a touchy-feely show. If you do not immediately gravitate to Otonashi's kindness or Yuri's inner struggles as a leader, then this show is not for you. It's melodramatic so get your popcorn, pump up the speakers and enjoy - for goodness sake. Don't overanalysis or It will cost you the show. The theme of redemption is presented very clearly in this show, see it and feel it with your heart.
Not so bashed if you check the rating poll. As usual, the complainers are more loud than anything else.
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Old 2010-06-26, 12:47   Link #1275
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I really like that Yui observation. Her episode had no OP or ED that I can recall.
Yui had her special OP when she was opting to take over for Iwasawa early on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sZIw9M7XDU


...and the ED for when she disappeared.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yabov2zWmRw
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Old 2010-06-26, 18:53   Link #1276
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Old 2010-06-26, 22:18   Link #1277
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My view on the anime, and the message Jun Maeda is trying to send across. Hopefully, this will clear up some confusion and misunderstanding some people have about this anime.

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Okay so what about my waifu when she gains her wings? Are they referring to a contradiction which people actually do respect and look up to?

In the last episode, it seems that she does have a zealous nature (pun unintended) when it comes to friendship, making her more ordinary than not. And somehow, she helps to free others from their ties to their previous life, so she represents something like......the wings of liberty? (Again, pun unintended.)
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Old 2010-06-26, 22:41   Link #1278
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Okay so what about my waifu when she gains her wings? Are they referring to a contradiction which people actually do respect and look up to?

In the last episode, it seems that she does have a zealous nature (pun unintended) when it comes to friendship, making her more ordinary than not. And somehow, she helps to free others from their ties to their previous life, so she represents something like......the wings of liberty? (Again, pun unintended.)
I always thought Kanade created her wings based on Yuzuru request to make her look more angelic, and the director's attempt to increase her moe level.

Kanade was always enthusiastic about about friendship. She just didn't know how to create ties with other people. It doesn't matter if you cared deeply about friendship, if you cannot even make friends in the first place. It is only when Yuzuru befriended her, and help her create ties with the other members of the SSS does she start to show a more friendly and caring side.

She can represent the wings of liberty. As a matter of fact, many of the characters can represent something different than what i have posted because of subjectivity. I chose what the character best represented for me in relation to what I think the show is trying tell the viewers.
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Old 2010-06-27, 05:34   Link #1279
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Not so bashed if you check the rating poll. As usual, the complainers are more loud than anything else.
Asuki polls are never good barometers in representing how good a series is. A series can be horribly directed and written and still gain 10s (Code Geass R2 comes to mind), while a good series can get 5s (Natsume Yuujincho).

And yes, I'm one of those that found Angel Beats entertaining, but very flawed in terms of execution. One would have to be blind not to see the issues inherent in the series. Well, either that or a diehard Key/Maeda fan.
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Old 2010-06-27, 14:50   Link #1280
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I really enjoyed this because it sort of incorporated alot of different genres like supernatural, comedy, action, drama, moe well you get the picture which I really enjoyed about it because in one episode they could have funny plot lines slapstick and then next have a dramatic eye watering episode. This way you weren't exactly getting bored of the storyline and skip to the last episode which I have done. I've probably knocked the flow of this thread completely off course but this was something I couldn't not leave a reply on.
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