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View Poll Results: Bakemonogatari - Episode 15 Rating
Perfect 10 54 44.63%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 34 28.10%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 18 14.88%
7 out of 10 : Good 12 9.92%
6 out of 10 : Average 2 1.65%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 1 0.83%
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Old 2010-06-28, 22:03   Link #81
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Pem doesn't do the best job, but it gives you the general idea.
Thanks. Am I right is assuming that pem is just doing what they can to sub the episodes of Bake that the other fansubbers ignore?
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Old 2010-06-29, 09:21   Link #82
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The only form of aggressive seduction ever to appear in this series so far is in Nise.

In Bake:
  • Mayoi ... doesn't seduce. Ararargi's just too much of a lolicon.
  • Nadeko hasn't done anything worth of mentioning (no matter how much SHAFT played up the snake play).
  • Kanbaru's just an (awesome) idiot, anything she did was she being herself.
  • Hanekawa is the well conducted one.
  • Hitagi did bit his ear and touch him in awesome teasing places, but she is so scared of coitus (I swear I would've never learned this word if not for Big Bang Theory) that she wouldn't actually do any sort of real seduction.

I find no fault with people who acts on what she wants because that's what it means to be fair to yourself and others. In the end, if you don't confess because you worry about your friend's feeling that is not being fair to the guy/girl whom you like since you never gave him/her a chance to make a decision.

The fact you don't confess just makes you conceited because what makes you think the guy will change his mind at all just because you confess (since that's the only reason why your friend's feeling would be hurt at all by your confession).

With that said, Senjougahara >>> Hanekawa.
I feel the same way. You can't just expect things to happen in your favor, you have go out and put in effort into achieving what you want.
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Old 2010-06-29, 09:22   Link #83
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Ok just watch it :

Eh what no more Bakemonogatari T_T

Well , It was quite good , they settled the "Triangle" .
Lol the amount of bloods on Araragi's neck .
So Shinobu is Araragi's shadow ?

I wanted to know more about her and her past with Araragi's fight .

Someone can remind me if Hitagi's birthday was already done ?

Overall : 8.5/10 for the show

And Yes Hitagi > Hanekawa even though she's NYAA .
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Old 2010-06-29, 10:34   Link #84
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not bad as the ending (is this the true ending?)

but the quality of the one i watched is bad, hope to see a better version in the future

the dialog between Araragi and Neko also is a bit too long
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Old 2010-06-29, 10:49   Link #85
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not bad as the ending (is this the true ending?)

but the quality of the one i watched is bad, hope to see a better version in the future

the dialog between Araragi and Neko also is a bit too long
It's the ending of Bakemonogatari. After this is Nisemonogatari.

My bet is that when Shaft does decide to animate it they'll do all 5 arcs at once - Koyomi Vamp, Karen Bee, Tsukihi Phoenix, Tsubasa Family and Mayoi Jiangshi
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Old 2010-06-29, 11:54   Link #86
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My bet is that when Shaft does decide to animate it they'll do all 5 arcs at once - Koyomi Vamp, Karen Bee, Tsukihi Phoenix, Tsubasa Family and Mayoi Jiangshi
I'd rather they not...wouldn't want months of delays between each episode again, right?
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Old 2010-06-29, 11:59   Link #87
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I'd rather they not...wouldn't want months of delays between each episode again, right?
If they pulled this stunt again I doubt people would support them as much.
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Old 2010-06-29, 12:12   Link #88
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Now that I have seen........ all 4 parts.........

I just want to keep it short and simple and say....... Shinobu was awesome!!!! Shadow ninja!
So she was never lost but in his shadow the whole time O_O

But a bandaid ? come on, thats just poor taste.

I think Arararararagi owes Shinobu a box of dohnuts after that effort
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Old 2010-06-29, 18:00   Link #89
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If they pulled this stunt again I doubt people would support them as much.
I would give any company full support if they will animate Zaregoto and not screw it up. If SHAFT ever do Zaregoto, then take 20 years to finish up the rest of the Monogatari Series I would still support them.

Stupid stupid stupid Katanagatari needs to end now too (6 more months!!!) so the next Nisio Anime Project gets announced. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

One more month till Neko. Now I'm really curious what the sales figure would be for the novel and the last BRDVD (especially after such a long, long gap).
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Old 2010-06-29, 18:34   Link #90
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A bit more glad to just see the last episode than about anything actually in it . It was quite the wait for this series to wrap up that's for sure. Still a solid episode in hitting home to Araragi what the truth was and having him actually struggle to survive. No doubt that Hitagi would act if he let himself get killed there. Surviving so you don't make your girlfriend into a killer . Well it was pretty effective so I suppose that is good.

So Oshino really did go. Well I suppose he couldn't just stay forever. Besides at the very least Araragi has a pretty good group around him to help when they run into trouble down the road. Obviously they will run into trouble since that's just how things go.
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Old 2010-06-29, 18:47   Link #91
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I would give any company full support if they will animate Zaregoto and not screw it up. If SHAFT ever do Zaregoto, then take 20 years to finish up the rest of the Monogatari Series I would still support them.

Stupid stupid stupid Katanagatari needs to end now too (6 more months!!!) so the next Nisio Anime Project gets announced. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

One more month till Neko. Now I'm really curious what the sales figure would be for the novel and the last BRDVD (especially after such a long, long gap).
I guess that's what you get when you know the ending huh? To be fair the anime is doing a better job telling the story than the novel did, Nisio padded the hell out of Katana. It'll be hilarious if the next Nisio anime project is Mahou shojou or Sekai.
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Old 2010-06-29, 19:49   Link #92
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I guess that's what you get when you know the ending huh? To be fair the anime is doing a better job telling the story than the novel did, Nisio padded the hell out of Katana. It'll be hilarious if the next Nisio anime project is Mahou shojou or Sekai.
Have Katanagatari sales suggested OAVs are viable with his stuff? Risuka would be absolutely impossible on TV.
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Old 2010-06-29, 22:11   Link #93
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Have Katanagatari sales suggested OAVs are viable with his stuff? Risuka would be absolutely impossible on TV.
Why? I have never read it so please tell me. Is it because the stuff is too kinky, Nisio's stuff sometimes it.
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Old 2010-06-30, 00:02   Link #94
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Why? I have never read it so please tell me. Is it because the stuff is too kinky, Nisio's stuff sometimes it.
This is the basic concept of the series, but it's doled out over the first chapter, so could be considered a spoiler:
Spoiler for Risuka chapter 1:
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Old 2010-06-30, 02:16   Link #95
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This is the basic concept of the series, but it's doled out over the first chapter, so could be considered a spoiler:
Spoiler for Risuka chapter 1:
.....Awesome...
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Old 2010-06-30, 05:20   Link #96
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alright episode

wish Senjougahara had more screen time though
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Old 2010-06-30, 05:22   Link #97
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This is the basic concept of the series, but it's doled out over the first chapter, so could be considered a spoiler:
Spoiler for Risuka chapter 1:
Very interesting. Is she immortal?
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Old 2010-06-30, 05:31   Link #98
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Well, 'seduced' can be no ones interests/lovers etc.
-- True.

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...not all NTR are consensual...
Seduction isn't always consensual either.
-- In fact, the actual meaning behind the word actually implies Non-Consensual Manipulation, or Coercion. Basically, a seducer is one who convinces others that they want something when they either 'Don't want it', or 'it's Not in their best interests'.

In my opinion, Araragi was very much Seduced by Hitagi. She actively pursued him from the moment the two of them went to her place to prepare for the Crab ritual. From what I saw, he started 'seeing' her because she Insisted and he simply gave in under the pressure. That Araragi actually DID fall in love with her only proves that her seduction scheme (constant pressure/threats) Worked.

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...type B for examples is having girl forced (by blackmail or by force or something like that) at first until she starts enjoying and continues it doing on her own, while type C is a rape from the beginning to the end just that rape involves having or being a love interest to make it into NTR...
Actually, ALL of those circumstances (A, B & C) would indeed happen in Seduction situations. (I should know. I write the stuff for a living.) *wink*
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Old 2010-06-30, 05:36   Link #99
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Nope, because "netorare" refers to the situation and feelings of the person whose love interest has been taken/seduced.
Ah...! Understood.
-- English covers the Target (the seduced) and the Aggressor (the seducer), but you're right, there's no word that describes the Victim, the one who lost their would-be love.
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Old 2010-06-30, 10:09   Link #100
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Very interesting. Is she immortal?
Spoiler for Risuka:


It was actually the first series to sign an anime deal (or at least show up on Moonphase), but with Faust no longer coming out regularly, only one new chapter has come out in the last three years, and everything got delayed. I wish they'd just take it out of Faust and finish it up already.
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