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Old 2010-07-28, 19:58   Link #21
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Er...no?

My point was that if material falls within the legal constraints of morality and the law, it's fine. If it's not, it should be banned. I don't support lolicon one bit. Women are more than capable of making up their own mind. My point was for people in general to be informed on the situation and to not act like being Straight Edge automatically makes them better than everyone.
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Old 2010-07-28, 20:42   Link #22
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Pretty sure that isn't the US stores from what I've read on other sites.
Yes, that's what I'd read as well, and some suggested that it was Customs that may have done the "modifying", which makes a slight bit more sense than a store doing it. It's just really difficult for me to imagine a store damaging something in order to sell it.

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This is really jumping to conclusions that it has anything to do with Handley and isn't based on customer complaints or some random customs issue somewhere. There are other magazines that I've seen at the NYC Kino that have similar content and are still there every week.
Yes, the fact that it's this specific list of magazines and that they doubtless carry many other books and magazines with similar content (especially to Megami; that isn't any more "adult" than your average fanservice anime, really), makes me think it must be a specific complaint or issue rather than just "general fear".
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Old 2010-07-28, 21:35   Link #23
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Yes, that's what I'd read as well, and some suggested that it was Customs that may have done the "modifying", which makes a slight bit more sense than a store doing it. It's just really difficult for me to imagine a store damaging something in order to sell it.

Yes, the fact that it's this specific list of magazines and that they doubtless carry many other books and magazines with similar content (especially to Megami; that isn't any more "adult" than your average fanservice anime, really), makes me think it must be a specific complaint or issue rather than just "general fear".
Anyone tearing pages out of someone else's books is a complete no-no; at least if Kino was doing it, it was their merchandise and you could look at it before you bought it. Customs tearing pages out of someone else's books? What is this I don't even

Yah, I hear you on this probably being a specific claim against Megami, Dengeki Moeoh, and the other afflicted mags. The Dengekis can push it a bit (sometimes they have naked breasts), but Megami isn't too bad; the worst I've seen in it is girls on top of each other in super skimpy swimsuits. But some find that offending too, I guess.
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Old 2010-07-29, 07:35   Link #24
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It's just really difficult for me to imagine a store damaging something in order to sell it.
When it comes to magazines, they are on a consignment basis. All unsolded outdated copies are returned to the publishers irregardless of their states where they will be eventually recycled. So Kinokuniya have the rights to do as they see fit.

Besides, Customs here do not have the manpower and resources to scan through every media that comes their way nor does the Censorship Board.

So most of the time, it falls on the retailer who import the media to self censor their merchandise or risk some of the more puritanical crowds making a huge fuss and bringing down the governing hammer as demonstrated in the latest case on hand.
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Old 2010-07-30, 14:26   Link #25
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Though I did read somewhere that some US law explicitly excludes 2D representations of children under the age of eighteen from the child pornography law; in that matter, even an H-game with eight year old lolis has no reason to get banhammered, though most on your block would not take to you well xp.
Yes and no. Fictional representations are no longer classified as "child pornography" but they can still be prosecuted as "obscenity," which is what happened to Handley.

Obscenity law is ridiculous, though. Pure and simple, it's thoughtcrime. If the pervy stuff you do in your imagination does not live up to some vague "community standards" as set by the Miller test, you could go to jail for 20 years. Which is about the most absurd thing I've ever heard.
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