2010-09-15, 08:47 | Link #781 |
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Its historical fact that Marsailles wasnt sent to Afrika because he was good. He was sent their for being a worthless insubordinate drunkard playboy who missed most of his early operations due to him having hangovers. Even the JG52 wanted him gone. As for "beating the Lufbery Circle", thats hardly a difinitive reason to say someones the best. The Lufberys been around since WWI, and the likelyhood that Marsailles was the first one to do it is highly unlikely, especially when you had aces like the Red Baron. Hartmann on the other hand: "Unlike Hans-Joachim Marseille, who was a marksman and expert in the art of deflection shooting, Hartmann was a master of stalk-and-ambush tactics. By his own account, he was convinced that 80% of the pilots he downed did not even realize what hit them. He relied on the powerful engine of his Bf-109 for high-power sweeps and quick approaches, occasionally diving through entire enemy formations to take advantage of the confusion that followed in order to disengage." "His favourite method of attack was to hold fire until extremely close (20 m (66 ft) or less), then unleash a short burst at point-blank range—a technique he learned while flying as wingman of his former commander, Walter Krupinski, who favoured this approach. This technique, as opposed to long-range shooting, allowed him to:[9][35] -reveal his position only at the last possible moment -compensate for the low muzzle velocity of the slower firing 30 mm MK 108 -equipping some of the later Bf 109 models (though most of his victories were claimed with Messerschmitts equipped with the high-velocity MG 151 cannon) -place his shots accurately with minimum waste of ammunition -prevent the adversary from taking evasive actions" "However, firing at close range ran the risk of having to fly through the debris of a damaged or exploding aircraft, thereby damaging his own fighter in the process (much of the damage Hartmann sustained in combat was caused by collision with flying debris). If it was dangerous to dog-fight further he would break off and content himself with one victory. His careful approach was described by himself by the line "See – Decide – Attack – Break": observe the enemy, decide how to proceed with the attack, make the attack, and then disengage to re-evaluate the situation." "Erich Hartmann flew 1,404 combat missions during World War II, resulting in 825 engagements,[51] and was never shot down. He was never wounded and never bailed out due to damage inflicted by enemy pilots. His kill tally included some 200 various single-engined Soviet-built fighters, more than 80 US-built P-39s, 15 Il-2 ground attack aircraft, and 10 twin-engined medium bombers." on the other hand "However, on 23 April, Marseille himself was shot down during his third sortie of that day by Sous-Lieutenant James Denis, a Free French pilot with No. 73 Squadron RAF, "James Denis shot down Marseille again on 21 May 1941" By the same guy no less...now thats sad. If the enemy doesnt know your there until you appear out of nowhere from behind at such a range that they couldnt even react...thats not easy. And the fact that Hartmann never got himself killed flying through the exploding planes he just shot with his suicidally insane tactics is a testiment to his skill as a pilot. Not saying he never had to land a plane to to damage, but he never had to do so because of enemy fire. Even when he finally crashed and was captured by the russians, it was because of him flying into debris, not because someone got a lucky shot and brought him down. Point is, theres a reason Hartmann earned the title "The Ace of Aces" from historians and Marsailles didnt. Simply put Hartmann is and, judging by current scores, will forever be the most successful pilot in the history of combat aviation. Hell modern day pilots havnt even been able to get into the same solar system as these guys. Most Korean and Vietnam pilots scores arn't even into the 20s...which is pretty sad actually... Marsailles may have been good, but statistically Hartmann was better and in the end, that's what matters in the pages of history... results. And, if you think about it, Hartmann also beats Marsailles in making a total fool out of oneself....observe: Marsailles: Drunkard playboy vs Hartmann: In March 1944, Erich Hartmann, Gerhard Barkhorn, Walter Krupinski and Johannes Wiese were summoned to Adolf Hitler's Berghof in Berchtesgaden. Barkhorn was to be honoured with the Swords, while Hartmann, Krupinski and Wiese were to receive the Oak Leaves to the Knight's Cross. On the train, all four of them got drunk on cognac and champagne. Supporting each other and unable to stand, they arrived at Berchtesgaden. Major Nicolaus von Below, Hitler's Luftwaffe adjutant, was shocked. After some sobering up, Hartmann was still intoxicated. Hartmann took a German officer hat from a stand and put it on, but it was too large. Von Below became upset, told Hartmann it was Hitler's and ordered him to put it back. I still hold that Hartmann is damn lucky he wasnt taken out to the toolshed and shot. I somehow doubt that if it had been Hitler who had walked in that he would have been so forgiving. I mean, genocidal maniacs dont mess around... --------------------- Back on topic though. I did notice that when Jaeger was narrating the fight that some of the maneuvers didnt match up. Thought it was funny. Cant wait for Barkhorn's episode. Last edited by ElizLestrad; 2010-09-15 at 09:23. |
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2010-09-15, 11:40 | Link #783 |
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Big post of episodes 6, 7 and 8
First thing to say is that I apologize to my friends for not being to follow them around in this series. I was so busy with other series but I still have to catch up on 9, 10 and 11 which is coming out today. I am really with myself that I was not able but now I am here. I thank Dahak86 a lot for making the efforts on his side to make GIFs.....I will supply some nice avatars for each episode in spaces of 5 each.
Episode 6 Let's start with episode 6.......that episode probably the best of the best of the relation between Sanya and Eila. As the episode went I was quite surprised or might have forgotten that Eila does see into the future and can thus avoid almost any Neuroi attack based on this=> http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/c5c55fb8.jpg Strangely enough the obelisk reminded me of one from the USA and it is a pain in the ass because of that time there was no space fighter striker units here=> http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/1ef3f931.jpg So I was surprised they actually developed rocket boosters for the strikers and the plans were quite nice=> http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/616195b6.jpg Yeah that too was a problem I was wondering about.....got to admit that Francesca's face was priceless here but also how she leaning on Charlotte here=> http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/cd087495.jpg Delicious fan service of Eila and Perrine here=> http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/f9a9396e.jpg Also it was funny to see Perrine always taking the bullet from Lynette's gun in the practice time. The moon beams suddenly ruined it here for the fan service but other than that it was nice for Eila/Erica here=> http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/db2007be.jpg That was rather a nice part of Eila thinking over about the whole dilenma of her not being able to use the shield that she can over the argument of her and Sanya=> http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/c08b4023.jpg What was nice of the intermission of this episode is that Sanya's scanner is like a Tiara and Eila is the white prince on the horse here=> Spoiler:
Are those meserchmidts by chance?=> http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/36b61167.jpg Holy crap at the temperature rating! -70 is harsh! I am still surprised that the magic kept them warm. Still the best of best was the OST when Eila used her shield and boy was I at that part. Really was a miracle and will power of protecting one that Eila used her shield! It was nice and decent in size. Sanya's rocket blasting was amazing too! 10/10 for episode with no problems! Avatar Freebies=> Originals http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/ac605b72.gif http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/57eacb03.gif http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/dd2eb0a8.gif http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/6baef20e.gif http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/00c386f5.gif http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/3a05696a.gif Episode 7 Episode 7 itself was a feast of ecchi. It was too obvious they made the Neuroi into a insect to make it ecchi with the way things went in this episode. At least I had my laughs in it. Starting with Erica sleeping....I ROFL way too much for this part=> http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/87db228c.jpg As if that was not enough the second time I see Erica like that still it worked again on me! => http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/cb8b67e4.jpg I did not understand exactly understand what Barkhorn meant by the Siegfried line but what was it at this part?=> http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/f3e4113d.jpg Rather curious to know the author and who he is to Erica here=> http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/424321cf.jpg Aaaaaaaaaah! Too bad they failed at censoring properly Lynette's breasts since I can a pretty decent shape here=> http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/d6d52d4b.jpg Perinne was hilarious here but I would have to say that I agree with her that some witches are rather ecchi animalistic here=> http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/5ebab399.jpg It would have been rather crazy if that bug went inside the anus but it still managed to go in the crack of the ass=> http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/3c4e3178.jpg A rather nice render in intermission part of this episode of Barkhorn here=> Spoiler:
Rather nasty slap there.....damn hand imprint is clear=> http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/7e73cda9.jpg OK I see now. The problem of this bug is that it can sabotage a lot in the electronic field of any structure=> http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/cf674814.jpg Right it could be here.......still nice ass part of Sanya here=> http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/ff92c28e.jpg Well that was a rather nasty hit of Sanya on Eila... => http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/972311c1.jpg So Minna got the award in the end due to her crushing the bug which was connected to the Neuroi with her ass of all things....wow that's just here => http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/08a990aa.jpg This episode in action wise was crap! Ecchi of course gets a 10/10 with a over 9000 for originality. Avatar Freebies=> Originals=> http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/b317fabd.gif http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/7e9a59c4.gif http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/61c59a84.gif http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/4db319fe.gif http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/e80eaf59.gif http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/0540e865.gif Episode 8 Finally it brings me to comment on episode 8. Episode 8 marked itself with a remarkable upgrade to Yoshika....the Shinden known as the "Magnificent Lighting" but it was also the episode where Lynette suffered a lot and Yoshika cried. Which in turn back when I saw it her suffering did affect me a lot TBH. Going by episode parts......I would like to know WTH are these dish meals here=> http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/92e3c1a9.jpg Well that was rather suprising....Miyafuji blows up the broom....=> http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/4ee9a055.jpg Really nice intermission this time around....Miyafuji with her father!=> Spoiler:
This part was the worrying as the Neuroi being only 500km from their main base and the Yamato being in danger....pretty insane part here=> http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/219fa76d.jpg When the music started to play in the background with suddenly Yoshika's father talking and the Shinden appearing suddenly in this part...I think I jumped from my chair in joy! With a "Get those shit ass Neuroi Yoshika!" this part=> http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/0c0808d0.jpg The Shinden does look rather nice from this look around=> http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...4/db73d3f8.jpg Avatars=> Obvious 10/10 episode.
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2010-09-15, 15:13 | Link #785 |
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Zuppa di farro is a soup made out of farro, a grain grown in Tuscany. Like barley soup.
Tiens, tiens! You farm just down the autoroute from there. You should know it! Vongole bianco is spaghetti with clams in a white sauce.
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"Bianco" is singular while "bianche" is plural. Bianco mean white, so the translation is "white clams". The long correct sentence is Spaghetti alle vongole bianche, translated Spaghetti with white clams or Spaghetti with clams (white is optional). Last edited by Fnights; 2010-09-15 at 16:50. |
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2010-09-15, 18:28 | Link #789 |
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Fighting the enemy with their own technology is a good idea in practice, but as one Aoi Futaba learned, the enemy is also aware that's a good idea in practice. Either the Yamato's going to go berserk and need to be blown up, or something else - either way, they thought ahead. Also, another crisis of self, except this one is definitely more real, and been hovering around since the season began.
It's not all serious, though. I liked Shakkini's long jump into the bath and their spinning throw attack. There was some pretty cool choreography during the battle. We know, thanks to scans, that this isn't the end of the Strike Witches franchise, so no need to say goodbye just yet. Also, got a small kick out of Yoshika quoting lyrics from the OP in the next episode preview. |
2010-09-15, 21:26 | Link #793 |
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Say, still not 100% yet, but after watching ep 11 I had to pop in here. The uh, I wasn't kidding when I said this earlier about the Yamato. So uh, chalk up another prediction? (well it was gonna happen anyways )
I wish my Minna-chan could console me right now, I feel like Mio at the moment, so not my previous self, and getting old by the minute. Well, at least she can fly... By the way, my heartbeat rose when I saw the hair-down Mio. |
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ep11, very good!
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- On an unrelated note, I'm also glad you find the time to get back to thread too, even for a short time. also, Hypernova beat me to the stitches. now, le'ts just hope Strike Witches isn't over... ero-ova, maybe?
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Heh, I think this series was the most I ever predicted for this season (Beam-slicing Mio, shield-shattering laser attack, my Minna-chan bumping heads with her superiors(this was mostly about me lol), and that space battleship Yamato.) I'm more interested in what it would have been like if I was healthy Quote:
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2010-09-16, 05:27 | Link #797 |
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nice episode ;D *cheers for sanya 1 rocket shot with multi kill *
judging from the preview at the last part .. yoshika gonna use the reppuzan or power up the generator O_O then again i dont think 1 main cannon could destroy it.. then again..WITCHES CAN DO ANYTHING! |
2010-09-16, 08:42 | Link #799 |
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Are you sure thats all that rose
Did anyones heart crumble to pieces seeing Mio cry? that was actually pretty hard for me. A character that has shown nothing but strength through both seasons finally breaking down. However when my heart starts to sink i just think back to the op seeing of her in the shower with DAT ASS!!
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