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Old 2010-09-19, 05:23   Link #261
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^Didn't Danzou actually have Hashirama's arm and not just some genetic material?
Actually, he had Shodai's FACE in the ARM.
This manga has become so dumb you better overlook the details if you want to keep enjoying it anyway ...


Now that I think about it, will Naruto's RS mode power up Madara as it powered up Yamato's wood ?
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Old 2010-09-19, 05:40   Link #262
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You know I wonder if Madara having Hashirama's power actually means he has his kekkai genkai. Could he use mokuton like Danzou and control all the bijuu? Or does it only mean he has it in the more general sense that he got Senju powers from Hashirama but not his kekkai genkai abilities.
For some unknown reason Madara's power level is very limited, that limits all of his jutsu. But when that limit will be removed we will finally see the power of the final villain, which i guess will make him an evil sage. When that happens he will be able to create reality from his imagination, and any powers such as Hashirama's mokuton or whatever else will be nothing compared to his powers. I think the only thing standing in his way will be Naruto's and Sasuke's combined power. A grand scale reality alteration battle would be great, i can imagine such a battle destroying entire landscapes and creating others (mountains, rivers, forests, huge summon animals (the summons that exist now were probably created by the sage of 6 paths, based on real animals and adding the sage's imagination), etc...), mind controlling entire ninja armies (just as eternal tsukiyomi would everybody),
predicting the future by creating it and beating the other's prediction by forcing your own creation.
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Old 2010-09-19, 09:17   Link #263
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Wasn't Danzou's Izanagi limited in time as well as scope? It seemed he only used it for self-preservation when, from what Madara is telling us, it could be used to shape anything out of nothing. Ie, a world, a beast, a weapon..
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Old 2010-09-19, 09:51   Link #264
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That's the point, there is a discrepancy between his explanation and his actual use of Izanagi which may be explained later due to his weakened current self.
On the other hand it explains the real scope of his endgame, with the power to transform illusion into reality and vice versa Madara could effectively become a god if he had everybody into a Genjutsu because with the power of the 10 tails to back this ability he could make his illusion reality world-wide.
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Old 2010-09-19, 12:34   Link #265
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The GIFT Itachi gave Naruto... is probably the same as Madara has! Naruto has both 'paths,' the Senju and the other one!
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Old 2010-09-19, 17:49   Link #266
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Although there is a discrepancy, I think that the two techniques are the same. As far as we have seen, there is nothing different, just that Danzo did not know the full extent of the technique, or he was not able to sufficiently use it because of his trouble incorporating the 1st's cells into him; for some reason or other, Danzo was not able to use it fully. From Madara's description, it CAN be used to create, but it does not necessarily mean it has to be; Madara himself only used it to warp reality..
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Old 2010-09-19, 18:58   Link #267
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Everything about izanagi, sharingans, senju, uchihas and multiple bodies has become so convoluted i just can't keep up anymore. *sigh*
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Old 2010-09-19, 21:53   Link #268
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Eh, not really. But maybe if you marathoned it all at once.
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Old 2010-09-19, 23:48   Link #269
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These last few chapters suggests that Madara was a terrible ladies man. Wouldn't the goal of an ultimate container be far easier to achieve if Madara just hooked up with a Uzimaki chick and mated and had an offspring.

Since Madara is clearly not opposed to using family members as a means to achieve goals, why not just body switch using Orochimaru's body switch jutsu.

He would achieve the body what he is trying to achieve now with far more ease.
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Old 2010-09-19, 23:55   Link #270
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He would achieve the body what he is trying to achieve now with far more ease.
Maybe that is what he was planning to do with Nagato, until the stupid kid went and wrecked his body.
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Old 2010-09-20, 00:02   Link #271
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Eh, not really. But maybe if you marathoned it all at once.
Nah i've been reading the manga for some years now, It's just now that Kishi has just convoluted the story with so many different jutsu elements which make little sense to me. The whole thing with switching bodies, absorbing them. The dbzness of it all just makes it worse. It's just ridiculous quite frankly.
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Old 2010-09-20, 00:50   Link #272
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DBZness would make it even simpler

I could try explaining whatever you're confused about.
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Old 2010-09-20, 03:14   Link #273
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On the other hand it explains the real scope of his endgame, with the power to transform illusion into reality and vice versa Madara could effectively become a god if he had everybody into a Genjutsu because with the power of the 10 tails to back this ability he could make his illusion reality world-wide.
I do hope it doesn't mean that Madara can be redeemed. We really need this bad guy to stay bad.

Also, it's been a while since my last doodle.

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Old 2010-09-20, 03:19   Link #274
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I do hope it doesn't mean that Madara can be redeemed. We really need this bad guy to stay bad.
It would be kinda hypocritical on Naruto's part if he decides Sasuke can be redeemed but Madara can't.

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Also, it's been a while since my last doodle.

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Lol. That looks as if it should belong in the Ridiculous Image Thread. XD
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Old 2010-09-20, 03:28   Link #275
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Lol. That looks as if it should belong in the Ridiculous Image Thread. XD
So mean, Haak, I thought she was awesome in that panel, did I screw up the rainbow?
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Old 2010-09-20, 03:58   Link #276
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So mean, Haak, I thought she was awesome in that panel, did I screw up the rainbow?
There is nothing wrong with your art. Besides everyone with common sense would give you a compliment on that but come on... the greatest terror is in front of you and she expects that Madara would stare at her rainbow?

That had to be the most ridiculous move ever.

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Ughhh, i am dying...
I can't let it end this way...
Arghhhh take this....
~~~ Creates a rainbow ~~~
Ughhh, noo.. my neck! I can't breath
Huh?? He didn't flinch...
Ughhh, it's getting dark...
Can't believe i'll die as a virgin
~~~ Loses conscious ~~~
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Old 2010-09-20, 04:04   Link #277
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Lol. That looks as if it should belong in the Ridiculous Image Thread. XD
For once I have to agree with you Haak.

@Johnny5: Actually, I don't care if you're staring down Madara, Naruto, a fluffy kitten, or the Queen of France. Konan's pose (accompanied with the rainbow) was absolutely ridiculous.

Oh, and nice coloring Frenchie.
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Old 2010-09-20, 06:26   Link #278
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@Jonny 5 - Nah, she was preparing a jutsu, not making a rainbow.

Her pose does look a bit funny though.
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Old 2010-09-20, 07:58   Link #279
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I think she was planning to destroy Nagato´s and the other one bodys so Madara would not get his hands on them but failed.
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Old 2010-09-20, 09:05   Link #280
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@Jonny 5 - Nah, she was preparing a jutsu, not making a rainbow.

Her pose does look a bit funny though.
In fact she did make a rainbow... although i know she was making some sort of a destructo disc technique... that's when Madara stepped in .
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