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And I thought that Caster's Rule Breaker was for breaking contracts; unless she misaimed the thing, how would she be able to kill Kuzuki?
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2010-09-26, 15:09 | Link #3042 |
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*Shrugs*
By moving around too much? Maybe she had to make a shallow stab in just the right place but because he was attacking her, he resisted and she ended up stabbing him in the heart by accident or something like that. Just a wild guess. I don't know if it's just for contracts or not.
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Not in that manner, no. Especially not servants. It can absorb them, but then they'd be corrupted, and Caster wasn't. Quote:
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Miscellaneous HF Godhand Notes: The only mention of Godhand at all in any of Dark Berserker's appearances is that Shirou briefly mentions before Nine Lives connects 'his life has ended twice over'. But on the other hand, Shirou also mentions earlier that Berserker's wounds from his battle with Saber Alter are all unhealed, which makes no sense if Godhand is active; even normal Servant regeneration should have healed them after several days, so he doesn't seem to be healing his wounds at all, much less regenerating from death. Plus, that means that unless each stab of Nine Lives killed him and then the last one killed him more than once, he should have had one life left and pulped Shirou's head. All I can assume is that the corruption really did screw up Godhand somehow after those lives were lost, which is hardly impossible. Godhand is part of his body, which is corrupted, skinned, and blinded, none of which is healing at all; further it's explicitly a Divine Blessing and days of exposure to its exact opposite, a mass of high-power curses, might very well have removed or lessened its effects. Battle Continuation: Battle Continuation was a point of contention, I recall, and that's because it is really NOT explained very well. In-game notes state that it allows the user to 'keep fighting until taking a clearly fatal blow', but both Lancer and Berserker use their Rank A continuation and keep going after taking fatal blows in UBW; Lancer after stabbing himself in the heart, to kill Kotomine, and Berserker to launch one final attack after running out of his lives in the Gate of Babylon spam. I really don't know what to make of this. I guess the ability description should have said, 'allows the user to continue fighting if it would be really, really cool for them to keep fighting'. |
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But, the point is that him using Nine Lives was pointless if he only took one life, because the stab to the heart would have been enough. Quote:
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2010-09-27, 21:29 | Link #3047 | |
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Mozco is so much better at articulating (typing?) points it makes me sad. ;_;
Anyway, the point I was trying to make about Bellerophon and Excalibur is that the two noble phantasm's are quite different (one is anti-army, for example, and another is anti-fortress) and they have a value difference, but the difference in power between them isn't at absurd points. I think, at least, based on how well Bellerophon did against Dark Saber's Excalibur, that if Excalibur could take 8 lives (just a random number, go with it for a moment) Bellerophon could take around 5. There's certainly a difference in power, especially since they are different, but it's not so vast that Bellerophon couldn't take out a single life. Compare that to Caliburn versus how well Caladbolg and weakened Excalibur did against Berserker. It does state that weakened Excalibur didn't even take one of Berserker's lives, so it was probably as effective as Caladbolg. Now, yes, Caladbolg is a broken phantasm and just exploded instead of unleashing a divine mystery, however Archer was able to kill Berserker 6 times using such methods in Fate. Quote:
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Rank: A+ Type: Anti-Army Noble Phantasm Range: 2-50 Maximum Target: 300 People. I've got to assume that the reins themselves would have a range of one and a Maximum Target of one Divine/Phantasmal Beast, so it seems that the stats given refer to the charge. Quote:
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That said, even for the purposes of taking one life, it would hardly have been useless. Even with nine simultaneous strikes, Shirou still lost in terms of speed; Berserker got distracted by Ilya mid-swing. Piling up overwhelming damage to destroy him completely was his best shot at making sure the battle didn't turn into a mutual K.O. When you're fighting the freakin' Doom Giant, you don't stop to make sure he's dead after each swing. You keep swinging until your arm stops working. Quote:
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Summoning him as Berserker was a huge, huge waste. Quote:
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Finally got round to finishing Heaven's Feel:
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So what are my final impressions? I think first I ought to point out the problems I had with the other routes: Quote:
Final Scores: Anime: 4/10 Fate Route: 5/10 Unlimited Blade Works: 7/10 Heaven's Feel: 8/10
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He couldn't project the Rule Breaker because he did not know it existed. He only learned of it though using Archer's arm after he parted ways with Rin. I think. Did he remove the scowl from his arm against Saber? He did right?
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2010-10-02, 13:36 | Link #3055 |
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I assumed the Rule Breaker was part of his master plan that he whispered into Riders ear to recruit her aid. Whatever he whispered, it made Rider smile so i figured it was something clever. The Rule Breaker is the only thing that comes to my mind.
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Think about it. Sakura went to that school (Shinji was at Shirou's middle school, so it stands to reason that Sakura would be too), but Rin did not (since she was with Issei, which Shirou would know if he were there too). Rin is also known to have watched over Sakura from a distance. So, the logical conclusion is that she was there to check up on Sakura, and happened to see Shirou and fall for him. Quote:
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2010-10-02, 22:13 | Link #3060 |
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I'm sure if Shirou went with the mind of steel bad end instead of saving Sakura he still wouldn't be a perfect good guy. It really is just a lesser of two evils, and it comes down to different perspectives. I probably would save Sakura as well if I were in Shirou's position, even if it seems wrong by most common moral standards.
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