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Old 2010-10-02, 23:01   Link #27341
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'Bound by Fate'... So Fate is going to use a lot of bindings in the fight?

So, for the fight... Nanoha doesn't know everything that Raging Heart can do and Fate has more experience. That sounds more and more like the S1 fight the more this go. If Nanoha want to win this, she'll either have to do something unlike her, something Fate will never expect... Or Fate gets 'Bound by Nanoha' before she receives a rebefriending.
One would assume Fate has learned a few new tricks over the years, too. ;p

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Thanks! And yeah, I spelled Mariage right, it's just that I probably should have been capitalizing those suckers, so made the changes.
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Old 2010-10-03, 00:32   Link #27342
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I won't go into the right or wrong of the situation much. But although I'm a big "personal responsibility" guy, there are times when mental duress will override any sensibilities and cause one to do things they normally wouldn't. Perhaps not to the point of total blamelessness, but covering a decent amount of it.

Anyway, without further ado, I think I'll stoke the flames of my own mini-controversy, heh.

Future Tense

Chapter 20: Family, Part 2


In which Nanoha learns about Ix, and someone else learns about Nanoha...

Chapters 1 thru 18 can be found here.
Chapter 19 (not yet posted to ff.net) can be found here.

Spoiler for Future Tense, Chapter 20: Family, Part 2:


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More corrections in there.

Well, let's see... does this chapter quell my earlier complaints? The short answer is no.

For one, it's just as likely that Ix doesn't even have an original 'mother' in the first place. Since genetic manipulation was all the rage back then, and since she serves a very unique and specialized purpose I'd say she was grown in a test tube, built from the ground up to manufacture Mariages.

However since that was never stated I guess you could use whatever backstory you want.

It's stated several times that the 'mama' thing was a joke, and yet they, and Nanoha in particular, treat it seriously. It still doesn't make sense for Ix to form such an attachment to Vivio and Einhart. Yeah, they want her to have a fun childhood, but one doesn't need a motherly figure to have that. That the three of them form a family is great, but again they'd be more like sisters, not mother/daughter.

... Pretty sure I have other things to say on this but I'm tired and can't put my thoughts together.

The rest of the chapter was fine.
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Old 2010-10-03, 01:07   Link #27343
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Old 2010-10-03, 01:40   Link #27344
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Heh, oh Einhart Well, it could have been worse

Cute. The idea of Thoma/Einhart is even more plausable now that we know she's only 1 year younger than him.
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Old 2010-10-03, 04:12   Link #27345
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A crossover short I did for Dezo . It's posted on Fanfiction.net in the "GrimGrimoire" fandom, although you really have to have knowledge of the fan-jokes in Nanoha to fully get the humour ^^.

Who will be the Inter-Dimensional Chess Tournament champion?

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Old 2010-10-03, 05:13   Link #27346
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Was that...a Sakura Wars parody?
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Old 2010-10-03, 06:59   Link #27347
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Now that's just evil, delaying that fight... As for Einhart, I hope she won't have to do it again. I'm pretty sure some would never let her live it down.
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Old 2010-10-03, 08:41   Link #27348
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A crossover short I did for Dezo . It's posted on Fanfiction.net in the "GrimGrimoire" fandom, although you really have to have knowledge of the fan-jokes in Nanoha to fully get the humour ^^.

Who will be the Inter-Dimensional Chess Tournament champion?

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Spoiler for Author's Note:
Another GG fan! Yay! And that was fun crack. The question of course, is whether you consider Lillet unfairly advantaged due to the, ah, extra time.
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Old 2010-10-03, 09:09   Link #27349
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Should I be lynched for hearing You Spin Me Round at that certain part of Einhart's... performance?
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Old 2010-10-03, 09:32   Link #27350
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I'll save that song when Einhart does 'Kaiser Arts: Rugalspin.'
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More corrections in there.

Well, let's see... does this chapter quell my earlier complaints? The short answer is no.

For one, it's just as likely that Ix doesn't even have an original 'mother' in the first place. Since genetic manipulation was all the rage back then, and since she serves a very unique and specialized purpose I'd say she was grown in a test tube, built from the ground up to manufacture Mariages.

However since that was never stated I guess you could use whatever backstory you want.

It's stated several times that the 'mama' thing was a joke, and yet they, and Nanoha in particular, treat it seriously. It still doesn't make sense for Ix to form such an attachment to Vivio and Einhart. Yeah, they want her to have a fun childhood, but one doesn't need a motherly figure to have that. That the three of them form a family is great, but again they'd be more like sisters, not mother/daughter.

... Pretty sure I have other things to say on this but I'm tired and can't put my thoughts together.

The rest of the chapter was fine.
Thanks for your comments and corrections again. However, as for the Ix comments... after a lot of thought and conversations with various people, I think some perspective is needed. You have this view of her in your head based on theories and guesswork, which is fine; Ix is a blank slate in a lot of ways. But as it the case with such things, there are several valid ways one could go about it.

In this case, it would be like someone commenting on a Yuunoha story of yours and going, "Hmm, I don't see them getting together, because they are just not like that. And you're totally ignoring the feels Nanoha and Fate have for each other." Or someone telling you "I don't see that Teana and Vice had any feelings for each other, so I don't see this relationship as plausible." I think you'd agree there is more than one valid interpretation for characters.

So while I'm still considering things, I've had quite a few talks with people who feel there isn't much implausibility in how I've portrayed things. As you noted, Ix's history is a blank slate, and thus one can change her character greatly depending on what kind of backstory one creates for her. As long as there are no contradictions, there is plenty of wiggle room, and that's where fanfic authors write.

I will note that if Nanoha seems to take it a bit more seriously, it's because she's just arrived and hasn't known Ix very long.

Thanks again for the comments. I'll most likely be finishing up edits to chapter 19 today, so I can post it to ff.net later.
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Old 2010-10-03, 12:14   Link #27352
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Fine, you can just ignore me then. Shouldn't hold up your fic anymore, so I'll just keep my grumblings to myself.
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A crossover short I did for Dezo . It's posted on Fanfiction.net in the "GrimGrimoire" fandom, although you really have to have knowledge of the fan-jokes in Nanoha to fully get the humour ^^.

Who will be the Inter-Dimensional Chess Tournament champion?

Spoiler for ChessMaster:

Spoiler for Author's Note:
...

And the worst thing is, I can't even tell who really won in the end, or if Lillet is really more devious than Hayate. I guess they both won in that case?
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Old 2010-10-03, 14:09   Link #27354
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Hey, Raiser, this one's for you.

Spoiler for Lutecia:
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Old 2010-10-03, 14:14   Link #27355
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I won't go into the right or wrong of the situation much. But although I'm a big "personal responsibility" guy, there are times when mental duress will override any sensibilities and cause one to do things they normally wouldn't. Perhaps not to the point of total blamelessness, but covering a decent amount of it.

Anyway, without further ado, I think I'll stoke the flames of my own mini-controversy, heh.

Future Tense

Chapter 20: Family, Part 2


In which Nanoha learns about Ix, and someone else learns about Nanoha...

Chapters 1 thru 18 can be found here.
Chapter 19 (not yet posted to ff.net) can be found here.

Spoiler for Future Tense, Chapter 20: Family, Part 2:


/puts on flame suit along with baseball catcher pads, facemask, and gear

Hit me!
As usual, good job. I personally don't have much of a problem with the whole Ixy deal right now.

And if the video you posted earlier about what the Nanoha and Fate fight would be like I guess it'll be a
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Hey, Raiser, this one's for you.

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Haha, curious Caro is curious Great stuff Nanya, thanks
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Old 2010-10-03, 15:15   Link #27357
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And the worst thing is, I can't even tell who really won in the end, or if Lillet is really more devious than Hayate. I guess they both won in that case?
Hayate always wins .

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Took me a few seconds to understand the "height vampire" part, but cute ^^.
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Old 2010-10-03, 15:31   Link #27358
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Hey, Raiser, this one's for you.

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Heh, cute. Way to go Erio, you just need to grab Lutecia when nobody is near... I doubt she will refuse your "offer"
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Old 2010-10-03, 15:41   Link #27359
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Hey, Raiser, this one's for you.

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Caro likes to watch.

Nice short, Nanya. Cute and funny, and can't ask for much more.
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Thanks guys.

Posted up Reaffirming to FF.Net
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