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Old 2010-10-18, 19:58   Link #201
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been thinking about teleport(stupid tvtropes >.<), and it just occurred to me that Awaki's accident was really just ridiculously dumb: all she needed to do was just teleport again like half a meter ahead, and her leg would have been free and without suffering any grievous, mind-crippling injury. Or if she couldn't teleport again for whatever reason, she could have just gotten someone to smash the wall around her leg to free it, instead of trying to get it out by force...
If you teleport yourself into something....yeah I think suddenly being fused to a solid object will damage your body quite seriously...Even if you teleport out again, your body would be pretty mangled..
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Old 2010-10-18, 20:00   Link #202
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But not as much as when you pull them by force like Awaki did.
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Old 2010-10-18, 20:06   Link #203
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But not as much as when you pull them by force like Awaki did.
Yeah that is a bit...dumb....i like to think that the pain overrode her senses but still the reflex should be to port out somewhere far...

Either way her leg would be bloody meat...
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Old 2010-10-18, 20:14   Link #204
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If you teleport yourself into something....yeah I think suddenly being fused to a solid object will damage your body quite seriously...Even if you teleport out again, your body would be pretty mangled..
her leg wasn't fused to the wall, it was stuck. I don't think it would even be possible for it to fuse, since teleport displaces matter to make space for the teleported object. Otherwise, any teleporter would fuse with air and die pretty messy deaths the first time they teleported themselves...

and on that note, shouldn't teleport generate thundering-like noises everytime it's used?(since it would create a vacuum in the place of the teleported object, which would then be filled by the sorrounding air in a rather violent way...)
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Old 2010-10-18, 22:08   Link #205
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^ Technically teleporting do make some sound, it was mentioned in the novels a few times. But nothing like a loud thunder though. But hey, I think this might fit under what they call 'Art Major Physics' trope or something.
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Old 2010-10-18, 23:29   Link #206
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her leg wasn't fused to the wall, it was stuck. I don't think it would even be possible for it to fuse, since teleport displaces matter to make space for the teleported object. Otherwise, any teleporter would fuse with air and die pretty messy deaths the first time they teleported themselves...

and on that note, shouldn't teleport generate thundering-like noises everytime it's used?(since it would create a vacuum in the place of the teleported object, which would then be filled by the sorrounding air in a rather violent way...)
If you teleport into something solid then yeah...imagine that wall displacing a path through your bone, tissues etc practically fused I'd say....

air and liquids can flow away from the teleporter.....solids cannot. That's why teleporting solid objects into each other = cutting or embedding
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Old 2010-10-19, 05:11   Link #207
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If you teleport into something solid then yeah...imagine that wall displacing a path through your bone, tissues etc practically fused I'd say....
Teleport doesn't work like that. As i said, if it were possible for matter to overlap, then every object/person teleported would also fuse with the air, which would lead to messy deaths...

Awaki's teleport should have literally created a hole through the wall around her leg, by displacing it. Of course it would be completely stuck since there would be literally nothing between her skin and the wall

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air and liquids can flow away from the teleporter.....solids cannot. That's why teleporting solid objects into each other = cutting or embedding
doesn't matter if they can flow or not, matter is displaced to create a vacuum space where the teleported object is moved to. Kuroko even used this "side-effect" to cut concrete pillars with glass windows in railgun
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Old 2010-10-19, 11:03   Link #208
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Teleport doesn't work like that. As i said, if it were possible for matter to overlap, then every object/person teleported would also fuse with the air, which would lead to messy deaths...

Awaki's teleport should have literally created a hole through the wall around her leg, by displacing it. Of course it would be completely stuck since there would be literally nothing between her skin and the wall


doesn't matter if they can flow or not, matter is displaced to create a vacuum space where the teleported object is moved to. Kuroko even used this "side-effect" to cut concrete pillars with glass windows in railgun
Yeah and remember what happened to the glass.....it shattered.....from being stuck in several tons of concrete pressing down...
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Old 2010-10-19, 22:03   Link #209
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Yeah and remember what happened to the glass.....it shattered.....from being stuck in several tons of concrete pressing down...
....yeah, because it's freaking glass stuck between several tons of concrete....it didn't shatter because it fused with it, it shattered because the pillars were heavy
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Old 2010-10-19, 22:42   Link #210
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....yeah, because it's freaking glass stuck between several tons of concrete....it didn't shatter because it fused with it, it shattered because the pillars were heavy
Or rather, if it was fused with it, the glass wouldn't shatter, since the atoms that made up the concrete and glass would be fused together. It would likely be hard enough not to shatter.
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Old 2010-10-19, 23:13   Link #211
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....yeah, because it's freaking glass stuck between several tons of concrete....it didn't shatter because it fused with it, it shattered because the pillars were heavy
No, I mean it would be the same if it were a body part....you still get horribly injured
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Old 2010-10-20, 06:25   Link #212
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but her leg was in a different position, it wasn't stuck under two pillars, it was stuck inside a wall. There was no weight put on her leg by the wall, heck, it probably wouldn't even put much pressure on it since the opening would be just big enough to perfectly fit her leg...
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Old 2010-10-20, 06:50   Link #213
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I have a question. I know that Mugino's powers are shooting Electrons but what are the many uses of Electrons in real life?
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Old 2010-10-20, 13:01   Link #214
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but her leg was in a different position, it wasn't stuck under two pillars, it was stuck inside a wall. There was no weight put on her leg by the wall, heck, it probably wouldn't even put much pressure on it since the opening would be just big enough to perfectly fit her leg...
The rest of the wall would be applying pressure......stick your leg in soft mud sometime....you can feel the weight of it preventing you from lifting it out....now imagine that were concrete weighing down instead...

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I have a question. I know that Mugino's powers are shooting Electrons but what are the many uses of Electrons in real life?
Everything to do with electricity....

She doesn't shoot electrons BTW.....more like plasma or anti-matter can't remember which but more likely the former.
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Old 2010-10-20, 13:09   Link #215
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it can also use as a source of energy and weapon. Well it's a meltdowner just from the name implies.
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Old 2010-10-20, 22:15   Link #216
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Mugino shoots beams that's 'somewhere between a particle and a wave', and is in a unstable form. Due the wave attributes Mikoto can manipulate Mugino's beam somewhat, as shown in the manga.

How does that fit in to plasma or whatever, I have no idea ^^;
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Old 2010-10-20, 22:29   Link #217
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Mugino shoots beams that's 'somewhere between a particle and a wave', and is in a unstable form. Due the wave attributes Mikoto can manipulate Mugino's beam somewhat, as shown in the manga.

How does that fit in to plasma or whatever, I have no idea ^^;
sounds more like exotic matter then...
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Old 2010-10-20, 23:27   Link #218
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I see.... but in the real world, what do we humans use Electrons for?
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Old 2010-10-21, 01:43   Link #219
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plasma application.

To many use
beam or laser, cutter, electricity, source of energy. In daily lives you should be using appliances. Same as using electrons.
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Old 2010-10-21, 03:51   Link #220
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I see.... but in the real world, what do we humans use Electrons for?
You know that thing called electricity that makes modern life possible? Well, it's nothing more than a flow of electrons. No more explanation should be required.
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