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Old 2010-10-24, 22:21   Link #21
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umm, why does everybody think S1 lasts only 13 eps? it might just last 24-26 eps, since S2 is announced for Spring '11. I could be dead wrong though D:
It's very rare for two season of the same series to air back to back. If the first season last for 24-26 episode, that means S2 gonna air right after it ends which make it useless to separate it into 2 season in the first place
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Old 2010-10-25, 10:27   Link #22
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The thread mentioned that:

But yeah we should discuss them in anime context. S4 anime that's is

I counted and expected the 13 episodes anime S1 to cover 24 chapters, from 1-17 and 22 to 27. End with Haqua arc. Then if S2 have 26 episodes, it will reach up to 70~ish, just finished Tenri arc (which gonna be a real good ending for S2). Finally S3 will be up to Rymiuel-dono, and may leave open ending for S4, which is current arc of the manga

I can't wait to see Yui arc through. Gonna be big controversial, with many simply hate but others would love it.
The chapter name for episode 4 is the title of the 17th chapter. I'm expecting that they skip chapters 6-16 completely, and adapt chapters 1-5 and 17-36.
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Old 2010-10-25, 11:04   Link #23
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Why would they skip those chapters? Those girls are the ones in the OP they aren't just going to skip them.
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Old 2010-10-25, 11:09   Link #24
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Considering that most of Keima's fantasy lessons about galge are pretty much standalone, they can easily present some of them earlier in the series. Likewise, skipping the the next 2 girls wouldn't make a lot of sense considering the OP and the ED.
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Old 2010-10-26, 01:12   Link #25
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My speculation for the layout of Season 1:
Code:
Ep	Chapters	Subject
1	1		Ayumi
2	2, 3		Elsie, Mio 1
3	4, 5		Mio 2, 3
4	17		Bug Game Heroine (Best. Band name. Ever...)
5	7, 8		Kanon 1, 2
6	9, 10		Kanon 3, 4
7	6		Capturing God Mode
8	13, 14		Shiori 1, 2
9	15, 16		Shiori 3, 4
10	11, 12		Elsie Cake (both perspectives)
11	22, 23		Hakua 1, 2
12	24, 25		Hakua 3, 4
13	26, 27		Hakua 5, Report
We get all four of the capture targets in the OP, as well as a taste of overarc at the end with Hakua showing up. Episode 13 may stretch out chapter 26 and then have a "microfiller" closer to the episode to tag it as a season ender, so that chapter 27 (Hakua's "written report"), which is very humorous, doesn't diminish the end of the arc. Plus, Chapter 27 would be a very good start to Season 2, as it segues in to the start of 28, which leads to Chihiro's arc in the manga, but could be fudged to lead to Kusunoki's arc instead, which was skipped since it's in between Shiori's and Hakua's. Or Kusunoki's arc en todo could be moved to after Chihiro.
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Old 2010-10-26, 08:18   Link #26
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My speculation for the layout of Season 1:
Code:
Ep	Chapters	Subject
1	1		Ayumi
2	2, 3		Elsie, Mio 1
3	4, 5		Mio 2, 3
4	17		Bug Game Heroine (Best. Band name. Ever...)
5	7, 8		Kanon 1, 2
6	9, 10		Kanon 3, 4
7	6		Capturing God Mode
8	13, 14		Shiori 1, 2
9	15, 16		Shiori 3, 4
10	11, 12		Elsie Cake (both perspectives)
11	22, 23		Hakua 1, 2
12	24, 25		Hakua 3, 4
13	26, 27		Hakua 5, Report
We get all four of the capture targets in the OP, as well as a taste of overarc at the end with Hakua showing up. Episode 13 may stretch out chapter 26 and then have a "microfiller" closer to the episode to tag it as a season ender, so that chapter 27 (Hakua's "written report"), which is very humorous, doesn't diminish the end of the arc. Plus, Chapter 27 would be a very good start to Season 2, as it segues in to the start of 28, which leads to Chihiro's arc in the manga, but could be fudged to lead to Kusunoki's arc instead, which was skipped since it's in between Shiori's and Hakua's. Or Kusunoki's arc en todo could be moved to after Chihiro.
I still think it would be like this:
Code:
Ep	Chapters	Subject
1	1		Ayumi
2	2,3		Elsie, Mio 1
3	4,5		Mio 2, 3
4	17,7		Bug Game Heroine, Kanon 1
5	8,9a		Kanon 2, 3
6	9b,10		Kanon 4, 5
7	11,12		Elsie Cake (both perspectives)
8	6,13		Capturing God Mode, Shiori 1
9	14,15a		Shiori 2, 3
10	15b,16,22a	Shiori 4, 5, Hakua bottle Elsie
11	22,23	        Hakua 1, 2
12	24,25		Hakua 3, 4
13	26,27		Hakua 5, Report
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Old 2010-10-26, 09:20   Link #27
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I still think it would be like this:
Code:
Ep	Chapters	Subject
1	1		Ayumi
2	2,3		Elsie, Mio 1
3	4,5		Mio 2, 3
4	17,7		Bug Game Heroine, Kanon 1
5	8,9a		Kanon 2, 3
6	9b,10		Kanon 4, 5
7	11,12		Elsie Cake (both perspectives)
8	6,13		Capturing God Mode, Shiori 1
9	14,15a		Shiori 2, 3
10	15b,16,22a	Shiori 4, 5, Hakua bottle Elsie
11	22,23	        Hakua 1, 2
12	24,25		Hakua 3, 4
13	26,27		Hakua 5, Report
Why on Earth would you relegate chapter 17 to only half an episode when it's all but proven that it's going to be the entirety of episode 4? The preview lists only one flag for the title (Flag 4.0: "On a Crusade") which is the same title as chapter 17. We've got previous posts mentioning that they've called in an actual visual novel pioneer to assist on the adaptation of the chapter. And the "Bug Game Heroine" has her own entry in the character list on the website. There's no way it gets only half an episode.

And considering chapter 6 includes not only Capturing God Mode but "The Traveling Dreamers of the Accumulated Circuits" as well, which screams for an expansion moreso than even chapter 17 (and insert songs are very good at burning adaptation time), It's unlikely it's getting only half an episode, either. Frankly, I find it more likely that they'd skip it altogether.
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Old 2010-10-26, 10:03   Link #28
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Why on Earth would you relegate chapter 17 to only half an episode when it's all but proven that it's going to be the entirety of episode 4? The preview lists only one flag for the title (Flag 4.0: "On a Crusade") which is the same title as chapter 17. We've got previous posts mentioning that they've called in an actual visual novel pioneer to assist on the adaptation of the chapter. And the "Bug Game Heroine" has her own entry in the character list on the website. There's no way it gets only half an episode.

And considering chapter 6 includes not only Capturing God Mode but "The Traveling Dreamers of the Accumulated Circuits" as well, which screams for an expansion moreso than even chapter 17 (and insert songs are very good at burning adaptation time), It's unlikely it's getting only half an episode, either. Frankly, I find it more likely that they'd skip it altogether.
The main reason is: chapter 17 only has 17 pages while Ayumi's arc is almost 4x that amount (62). It's true that the pace of Ayumi's arc was sped up. However there have to be lots of anime original material to span the 17 pages of chapter 17 into a whole episode.

Also if ch 17 is a whole episode, then i can't find of any reason for it to start this early (instead of after Shiori and Kanon arc). My guess is because the time it take to adapt ch 17 will fit with whatever is showed in the 2nd half of the episode (most likely the introduction of Kanon arc)
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Old 2010-10-26, 10:27   Link #29
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Kanon and Shiori are only 4 chapters long. The reason to expand on chapter 17 is because it is probably the easiest of the Keima chapters to expand to fit an episode. Capturing God as well could fit one episode but I'll admit that one doesn't seem as easy to me.

They want to keep the anime flowing at the same pace so quigonkenny's timeline seems the best so far to me.
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Old 2010-10-27, 00:17   Link #30
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...However there have to be lots of anime original material to span the 17 pages of chapter 17 into a whole episode...
Well, yeah... That was kind of the whole point of my last post. You don't bring in a pioneer in the field for half an episode worth of adaptation, and you don't give a one-chapter minor character a character page entry unless you're expanding her story.

Now Season 2:
Code:
Ep	Chapters	Subject
14	18, 19		Kusunoki 1, 2
15	20, 21		Kusunoki 3, 4
16	33, 34		Galge buying, Keima/Mari
17	28, 29, 30	Chihiro 1, 2, 3
18	31, 32		Chihiro 4, 5
19	35		Keima + Galge industry
20	36, 37, 38	Jun 1, 2. 3
21	39, 40, 41	Jun 4, 5, 6
22	42, 47		A day in Elsie's life, Hakua Visit
23	48, 49		Hakua + Yukie 1, 2
24	43, 44		Tsukio 1, 2
25	45, 46		Tsukio 3, 4
26	56		Elsie in Hell, Nora
As suggested in the previous post, chapter 27 could be left for this season, in which case it takes the first half of the first episode and is followed by Chihiro's arc, which swaps with Kusunoki's. The capture arcs this season tend to be longer, so either they will individually require more episodes to adapt (Jun's, for example, could easily be 3 full episodes) which will trim away non-capture episodes, or will need to be compressed. I'm expecting the latter.
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Old 2010-10-27, 00:41   Link #31
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I don't really think Hakua would figure much in the second season. Meeting her buddy didn't have much plot impact. The problem is that Hakua's introduction and Elsee actually doing something is a good place to end season 1 if that's how they decide to end it. For season 2 though the only other good stopping point in my mind would be Tenri + Diana arc and I really doubt they could get there with the preview showing all those girls. They'd have to cut out a lot of the Keima filler chapters to get there and just do capture arcs.
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Old 2010-10-27, 18:15   Link #32
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Well, yeah... That was kind of the whole point of my last post. You don't bring in a pioneer in the field for half an episode worth of adaptation, and you don't give a one-chapter minor character a character page entry unless you're expanding her story.

Now Season 2:
Code:
Ep	Chapters	Subject
14	18, 19		Kusunoki 1, 2
15	20, 21		Kusunoki 3, 4
16	33, 34		Galge buying, Keima/Mari
17	28, 29, 30	Chihiro 1, 2, 3
18	31, 32		Chihiro 4, 5
19	35		Keima + Galge industry
20	36, 37, 38	Jun 1, 2. 3
21	39, 40, 41	Jun 4, 5, 6
22	42, 47		A day in Elsie's life, Hakua Visit
23	48, 49		Hakua + Yukie 1, 2
24	43, 44		Tsukio 1, 2
25	45, 46		Tsukio 3, 4
26	56		Elsie in Hell, Nora
As suggested in the previous post, chapter 27 could be left for this season, in which case it takes the first half of the first episode and is followed by Chihiro's arc, which swaps with Kusunoki's. The capture arcs this season tend to be longer, so either they will individually require more episodes to adapt (Jun's, for example, could easily be 3 full episodes) which will trim away non-capture episodes, or will need to be compressed. I'm expecting the latter.
if your spec actually proves to be accurate, I'M SO LOOKING FORWARD TO EP 19 LOLZ.

oh and btw, am i the only one hoping for shitloads of seasons to come? i do not want this to be anything less than awesome, so far the anime delivered, so i approve of S3 and S4 announcements for nxt year D:
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Old 2010-10-27, 20:52   Link #33
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Except that there's only 6 Blu-Rays, each containing 2 episodes. The seasons are 12 episodes each, not 13.
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Except that there's only 6 Blu-Rays, each containing 2 episodes. The seasons are 12 episodes each, not 13.
cal.syoboi.jp has 13 episodes, and amazon.co.jp doesn't have a "runtime" entry for any but the first blu-ray/DVD. Until it's confirmed officially otherwise, 13 sounds right.

In other words, source please?
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cal.syoboi.jp has 13 episodes, and amazon.co.jp doesn't have a "runtime" entry for any but the first blu-ray/DVD. Until it's confirmed officially otherwise, 13 sounds right.

In other words, source please?
cal.syoboi.jp is often wrong and only goes based off of assumptions when the series starts. amazon.co.jp has all discs at the same price (+/- 2000 yen). If there's more than the normal amount on a disc, you always see a price jump. Like Seitokai Yakuindomo's last disc is 6800 yen instead of 4700 like all others.
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Old 2010-10-30, 10:49   Link #36
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My speculation for the layout of Season 1:
Code:
Ep	Chapters	Subject
1	1		Ayumi
2	2, 3		Elsie, Mio 1
3	4, 5		Mio 2, 3
4	17		Bug Game Heroine (Best. Band name. Ever...)
5	7, 8		Kanon 1, 2
6	9, 10		Kanon 3, 4
7	6		Capturing God Mode
8	13, 14		Shiori 1, 2
9	15, 16		Shiori 3, 4
10	11, 12		Elsie Cake (both perspectives)
11	22, 23		Hakua 1, 2
12	24, 25		Hakua 3, 4
13	26, 27		Hakua 5, Report
We get all four of the capture targets in the OP, as well as a taste of overarc at the end with Hakua showing up. Episode 13 may stretch out chapter 26 and then have a "microfiller" closer to the episode to tag it as a season ender, so that chapter 27 (Hakua's "written report"), which is very humorous, doesn't diminish the end of the arc. Plus, Chapter 27 would be a very good start to Season 2, as it segues in to the start of 28, which leads to Chihiro's arc in the manga, but could be fudged to lead to Kusunoki's arc instead, which was skipped since it's in between Shiori's and Hakua's. Or Kusunoki's arc en todo could be moved to after Chihiro.
Heh, I was about to post my theory but you pretty well summed it up.

The first Haqua arc is 6 chapters, so say 3 episodes.

They've already had 4 episodes, so that's 7. Kanon will take 2 episodes (4 chapters). That's 9. Shiori was shorter as I recall it, even if it did take 2 chapters, so she might be only 1.5 episodes, leaving 1.5 episodes for more Elsee and Keima short stories and character development. (Probably "God Mode" and "Elsee is so sweet" chapters). That would put us at 12 episodes, but I suspect there will be one more side story episode. That would allow for putting a side story in between each capture.

Second season I think they might move things around more. Kusunoki's arc would make a good season opener as she would continue the theme from the Haqua arc that there is more to this than just capturing girls. Make Tenri's first arc (ending with the apparent resolution- before she moves in next door) as the climax of the second season.

I think the point that there is going to be a second season means that they want to end the first season with a SequelHook instead of a final resolution ending.

Not only that, but the sequel hook will be over the top: 60,000 spirits left to go Keima! You can do it!
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Old 2010-10-31, 07:09   Link #37
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From 2ch, source is Megami magazine
第5話(11/3)「IDOL BOMB!!」
第6話(11/10)「ワタシ平凡?」
第7話(11/17)「Shining Star」
第8話(11/24)「Coupling with with with with」
Episode 5-7 will be Kanon arc, while 8 is cake. I don't expect Kanon arc to be 3 episodes. Probably because Kanon will sing?
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Thanks for the info NecocYaotl.

3 episodes, huh? I guess that means this half will end with Shiori as the last target, and then have God Capture mode (and an anime original?) to end it. Hakua's arc will probably be at the end of the second half then.

BTW, is there anything on who will storyboard/Animation Director for these episodes? Not exactly important but still nice to know.
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In the official site, there's only info for episode 5
Storyboard : Tanaka Takayuki
Animation Director : Ootsuka Akira
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No Haqua arc..? That's kinda suck =/

It's unfair, Ayumi barely have one episode, Mio have 1.5 , while Kanon have 3? I like Kanon too, but how... Ayumi... i mean...how is it possible D:
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