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Old 2010-11-10, 16:42   Link #21
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I just need to see Castle in the Sky and Porco Rosso (and Ponyo and Borrower Arrietty). I've seen everything else.
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Old 2010-11-10, 17:42   Link #22
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I just need to see Castle in the Sky and Porco Rosso
Two of my personal best from Miyazaki, so you should get on that.

Seriously can't wait to hear more of Tenmon's score for the film. Just that one piece on the short CM sends a chill down my spine.
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Old 2010-11-10, 20:02   Link #23
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I am really looking forward to this movie the art and colors are just beyond anything I can describe.

I wasn't a fan of 5 cm per second something about the characters didn't quite catch me. Though the art and animation was astounding!
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Old 2010-11-11, 08:36   Link #24
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Personally i don't see why it matters if this film looks similar to a Miyazaki film. At the end of the day it's a Shinkai film, and i'll enjoy it for being one. I actually think it's rather interesting that he's adventuring out into different genres, especially after seeing where Voices of a Different Star could have gone.
Because it will make the audience confused.

A Miyazaki movie means usually a positive ending, safe to bring the kids. A Shinkai movie means you'll prob need Prozac after finishing it. He hasn't made a film with a positive relationship outcome since he started. (I still think that he needs to be treated for depression. He has too many films with bad relationship outcomes.) Audiences won't be amused if they expect Miyazaki and get something Anno (pre-Rebuild of Eva) would do.

That being said I am cautiously anticipating this film.
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Old 2010-11-11, 11:36   Link #25
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Just saying but, I hope Shinkai uses good voice actors for once.
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Old 2010-11-11, 12:33   Link #26
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Because it will make the audience confused.

A Miyazaki movie means usually a positive ending, safe to bring the kids. A Shinkai movie means you'll prob need Prozac after finishing it. He hasn't made a film with a positive relationship outcome since he started. (I still think that he needs to be treated for depression. He has too many films with bad relationship outcomes.) Audiences won't be amused if they expect Miyazaki and get something Anno (pre-Rebuild of Eva) would do.

That being said I am cautiously anticipating this film.
Eh? I don't find any of Shinkai's movies particularly depressing, aside from maybe Hoshi no Koe. The place promised in our early days had a happy ending, and while 5cm per second's ending was nothing like your typical happy ending, it still ended on a rather positive (and realistic) note.
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Old 2010-11-11, 12:35   Link #27
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Old 2010-11-11, 12:58   Link #28
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Hey, I don't mean to rag on you man, but we certainly have different conceptions of "happy".
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Old 2010-11-11, 13:03   Link #29
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Hey, I don't mean to rag on you man, but we certainly have different conceptions of "happy".
I certainly agree with you. Especially when it comes to Haak's opinion on Voices of a Distant Star..
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Old 2010-11-11, 13:05   Link #30
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Relationships don't seem to have "happy" outcomes his titles.
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Old 2010-11-11, 13:15   Link #32
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Old 2010-11-11, 13:21   Link #33
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Oh, I didn't realise it was different in the American one.

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Old 2010-11-11, 17:03   Link #34
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I watched the trailer and wasn't really sure what to think of the story. I love the artwork in Shinkai movies, but the stories don't make me particularly happy. I really enjoyed 5 cm per second, however, because the theme of long distance relationships breathed through the characters and the settings. The depiction felt very genuine and easy to understand; the simplicity worked surprisingly well to for what Shinkai has been striving to create. This time, I'm not that worried about the character designs sharing one or another similarity with Miyazaki's films; I'm actually worried about how he will incorporate different story elements into his creation, and still make the theme of his selection work as intended. it will be interesting to see how he fares, though.
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Old 2010-11-11, 18:50   Link #35
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Could've fooled me. Thought it was a Ghibli film first glance, as main hero and heroine looked like the typicla ghibli ones lol.
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Old 2010-11-11, 21:40   Link #36
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Oh, I didn't realise it was different in the American one.

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I rewatched 2 of them. It's the same film so it's prob not any different from your copy.

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And now we have a girl traveling to "say goodbye" to a guy. I'm betting that the guy is already dead. He had progressively bad situations for the couple in his titles so there can't be any worse of a situation that this.
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Old 2010-11-12, 03:53   Link #37
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Oops. For some reason I thought that was the girls uniform. I forgot she used her school uniform the entire time...

Well anyway, I'd still say they're bittersweet rather than bad, if not just inconclusive.
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Old 2010-11-12, 04:44   Link #38
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Well anyway, I'd still say they're bittersweet rather than bad, if not just inconclusive.
The point we were making is that it isn't happy.
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Old 2010-11-12, 07:42   Link #39
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Hurr hurr hurr. You were rather vague so you could be flexible. ____

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He has too many films with bad relationship outcomes..
Well back to the original point, whilst Shinkai's endings are usuaully far more more depressing than Miyakazi's, Shinkai usually ends up up giving subtle clues that there is still hope. So I don't think Miyakazi's formula and Shinkai's are completely incompatible.
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Old 2010-11-12, 21:55   Link #40
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Wow just wow. The visuals are simply amazing. I get the Ghibli feel that people are talking about. Having seen Shinkai's earlier works I'm pretty sure we'll be seeing a similar theme in this one as well. Really looking forward to it.
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