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Old 2010-11-14, 22:12   Link #241
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A bit late but... I'd like you to elaborate, please
I wrote a bit back in this post, so I'll just expand on that.

Spoiler for length and spoilers:
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Old 2010-11-14, 22:26   Link #242
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Old 2010-11-15, 02:11   Link #243
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Completely agree with your view on the relationship pairs. I also don't get why people would think there would be incest in this series. The author has stated since volume 1 that this series is about comedy series, in the special Chinese version postface, he even specifically stated that it is a comedy series in typical family about a sibling re-connect with each other.

Having Incest will not make this series a comedy, not to mention in volume 4 postface, the author states that there are ELEMENTRY SCHOOL readers who wrote letters to him along with MIDDLE SCHOOL GIRLS with older brother. Japan is fairly open about sex, but not THAT open.


As for the relationships:

Spoiler for My takes on relationships in the book.:
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Old 2010-11-15, 11:36   Link #244
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As an anime-only watcher I'd like to ask out of curiousity, will there be any interaction between Kuroneko and Ayase?
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Old 2010-11-15, 11:40   Link #245
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Nope, but Ayase and Minami became good friends who shares information.
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Old 2010-11-15, 11:43   Link #246
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Nope, but Ayase and Minami became good friends who shares information.
OK, thanks for the quick answer. Too bad, would have been really fun to watch imo. And, that sounds interesting.
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Old 2010-11-15, 12:34   Link #247
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As an anime-only watcher I'd like to ask out of curiousity, will there be any interaction between Kuroneko and Ayase?
None I can remember of. Ayase still avoids ACG unless it is related to Kirino. The only interaction I remember other than Kyosuke is Minami, who somehow became a really close friend to Ayase.
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Old 2010-11-17, 21:16   Link #248
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Wow. Seems like the majority is hoping for a Kuroneko end. ):
Hearing the opinions of everyone confuses me. I'm hoping for a Kirino end, and someone will write something that will give me hope. But then following up on that someone else will have a totally practical argument to trump it which then makes me sad because it's so reasonable that I could also see that as a possibility. And so the cycle continues.
But here's the thing, I feel like this series is pulling in two opposite directions. But the one that is pulling opposite to the wincest end seems to contradict everything about the series itself IMO. When I first saw this series my immediate thoughts were that it was going to be about incest(which upset me at the time, but it has totally converted me), the title implies that there is a 50-50 chance that is the route this series could take. Regardless of whether or not you want the series to end with kyosuke/kirino, incest probably came to mind for most people, and then you watched it to clarify, right? Well, when I think about it that way, I think the series as a whole attracted many, many fans of that particular genre along with the people who think/know it is a wholesome series about a brother and sister's relationship. I think when you create that kind of a fanbase it'd be kind of tough to deviate from that. Also, if we're following the status quo, Kirino is the main character next to Kyosuke, the main characters usually end up together.
I dunno though, just throwing some thoughts out there. I'm just a little bit depressed that the author supposedly hates Kirino. D: More evidence against her getting Kyosuke in the end. -sigh-

Also, about that argument that Kirino is opposed to incestuous relationships and not to mix up the 2-D and 3-D world. Kirino is a 2-D character. So she can't use that argument. xD;;
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Old 2010-11-17, 21:36   Link #249
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Well, the thing about the Ruri route is that it had a lot of support when the author put questionaires in volume 4. Basically, it can be argued that the Kuroneko fans pushed for this particular situation.
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Old 2010-11-17, 23:29   Link #250
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seriously.... now i am lost..... amongst the fight...... can anyone rebrief me?!
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Old 2010-11-18, 09:29   Link #251
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Minami Period...
No Incest but a great sibling bond would be interesting
However I like Kuroneko but a graet point of development for her character would be for her to get out of her shell and meeting new people and a new love.
Minami fits Kyousuke the best in my oppinion the plain ordinary couple.

Need to faster master Jap so that I can actually read first hand this excellent series.
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Old 2010-11-18, 10:48   Link #252
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Anyone but Minami is fine with me. Minami is just too boring and too moe-sweet for me to like.
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Old 2010-11-18, 12:55   Link #253
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Well, the thing about the Ruri route is that it had a lot of support when the author put questionaires in volume 4. Basically, it can be argued that the Kuroneko fans pushed for this particular situation.
The questionaire result is just not surprising, popularity wise on 2ch (Just an approximate...), Kirino ~= Kuroneko >> Ayase >> Manami >> everyone else. So, with Fushimi tend to write the novel base on popularity, yeah, 50-50 chance between Kirino and Kuroneko.

Knowing Kyousuke and his way of choosing girl, though...
Meganekko - Manami, Sena, Saori (Although Kyousuke like the no-glass version of Saori...)
Big bust - Sena, Saori
Long Black Hair - Kuroneko, Ayase, Saori
Imouto - Sena, Kuroneko, Kirino

Sena and Saori are 3/4. Neither really have that big of chance, though...
Sena - Competitions, not enough development, and weird personality
Saori - Feel more like friends than koibi, and any development are way too late in the game.

Thus the choice become Ruri kouhai...
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Old 2010-11-19, 08:52   Link #254
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Here are some if not all the translated parts of Vol. 7 that I have collected from lurking
Beware FULL spoilers ahead:
Spoiler for Part 1 From Sergio:


Spoiler for Part 2 From Sergio:


Spoiler for Climax part summary:


I gotta give thanks to these guys. They are so quick in translating. Loving every sentences of it.
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Old 2010-11-19, 09:31   Link #255
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Thanks. The date and Ayase part was hilarious. Kyousuke was pretty cool during the confrontation too.
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Old 2010-11-19, 10:13   Link #256
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I'm not going to comment on Sergio's summaries until he finishes, but just doing some quick corrections on the climax summary/translation.

Note that there are also two very important conversations/incidents in chapter 4 before this climax scene.
Spoiler for just in case:
And quite a few of Kyousuke's thoughts have been left out. It's probably a bit hard without a full translation or at least a better summary (sorry, I won't be doing one), but please try not to take the following scene out of context.

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Old 2010-11-19, 10:24   Link #257
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Ahh! Thanks for the good read. On that note, I hope it does not finish on the Loli route Too many animes have done this already.

Anyway, is there a release set date for the next volume?
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Old 2010-11-20, 00:52   Link #258
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Minami Period...
No Incest but a great sibling bond would be interesting
However I like Kuroneko but a graet point of development for her character would be for her to get out of her shell and meeting new people and a new love.
Minami fits Kyousuke the best in my oppinion the plain ordinary couple.

Need to faster master Jap so that I can actually read first hand this excellent series.
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Anyone but Minami is fine with me. Minami is just too boring and too moe-sweet for me to like.
It's Manami, not Minami


A question: Does Kyousuke still call Ruri Kuroneko in volumes 5~ ?
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Old 2010-11-20, 08:18   Link #259
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A question: Does Kyousuke still call Ruri Kuroneko in volumes 5~ ?
He still call her Kuroneko even in the end of volume 7.
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Old 2010-11-20, 10:10   Link #260
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It's Manami, not Minami


A question: Does Kyousuke still call Ruri Kuroneko in volumes 5~ ?
Don't care how you call her - she still sucks, lol. Way too sweet and moe.
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