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Old 2010-11-19, 16:36   Link #2061
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Even if CS' OP was bad, all they're doing for CS2 is adding 4 new characters, a re-balance of the other characters, and probably a few other things as well. I feel that isn't enough to warrant a whole new opening sequence.

But they did it anyway and it's better. So good for them.


TBH, I'd prefer they just start working on BB3 rather than trying to improve CS. But that's just me.
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Old 2010-11-19, 17:13   Link #2062
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It is more like this is Gonzo when they have a larger budget, beside nopan ^^, with the peropero running across on nicnico everything reminds me of saki.
Waitwait, so pedophilic comments running across the screen reminds you of Saki?

The only reason people are leaving peropero comments is because they're lolicons and Platinum is in this intro.
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Old 2010-11-19, 17:16   Link #2063
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Probably is BB3 is going to need to be pretty radically different to get another retail disc.. if it's just seen as another "update" than sales will continue to drop. That is the reason why CS and SSFIV were sold @ a lower price, not because CS + DLC characters = full price game, but because of the stigma fighting games "updates" carry. (thanks to Capcom and SFII, funny how sports games don't get the same criticism.. though nba 2k11 is so much better than 2k10.. theirs a reason it sold twice as much than 2k10..) Both CS and Super sold much less than their initial versions... if this "stigma" wasn't around than no way would SSFIV AE even be considered for DLC.. it would be retail period

I already see this affecting MvC3.. rumor has it that there will be 10 DLC characters in total.. now if their priced @ Blazblue levels (yuck) than man that sucks ass. I would rather buy a Super MvC3 12 months after with these characters (and new stages) + system changes you really can't handle in a DLC update but the market is shifting to DLC...

Anyway has CS2 been giving a release date for consoles? I'm hoping it comes out before Marvel 3 (Feb 15) so I can give the game the time it deserves... gonna give up on Super for the most part after the AE version hits arcades in melbourne.. (I hear dec 18th for box hill timeout...) gonna import Arcana Heart 3 in Jan if CS update doesn't come out in dec/jan.. who am I kidding I'll prob still get it anyway... and MK9.
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Old 2010-11-19, 17:16   Link #2064
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Waitwait, so pedophilic comments running across the screen reminds you of Saki?

The only reason people are leaving peropero comments is because they're lolicons and Platinum is in this intro.
actually its more of a running in joke with the nopan itself, since there was massive (leaving it to fans imagination) on whether saki is nopan anime probably more due to sankaku complex.

I did notice that but I'm more amused by the comments more than anything of fans over reacting to loli propaganda , so more or less it's the fans' reaction that reminds me of the series (saki).
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Old 2010-11-19, 19:13   Link #2065
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It will take a hella good director and a hella good writer to make sth as messy as Blazblue into a good anime. I believe good anime staff would stay clear off adapting fighting games when there are better projects out there and so I believe Blazblue anime is a bad idea.

Not insulting BB, but even though the premise is great, the execution in CT and CS is awful: choppy, too many plotholes, asspull, unresolved plots, blah blah. It's ok for fighting game audience, but anime audience will not be so forgiving.
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Old 2010-11-19, 21:53   Link #2066
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It will take a hella good director and a hella good writer to make sth as messy as Blazblue into a good anime. I believe good anime staff would stay clear off adapting fighting games when there are better projects out there and so I believe Blazblue anime is a bad idea.

Not insulting BB, but even though the premise is great, the execution in CT and CS is awful: choppy, too many plotholes, asspull, unresolved plots, blah blah. It's ok for fighting game audience, but anime audience will not be so forgiving.
That is pretty much it right there. The most canonical route being of course the True End storyline, but even those would need in-depth explaining because several character storylines are required to fully understand what they're saying. Well not fully since most of Blazblue is still a mystery.

I'd like an OVA atleast.
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Old 2010-11-20, 09:01   Link #2067
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It will take a hella good director and a hella good writer to make sth as messy as Blazblue into a good anime. I believe good anime staff would stay clear off adapting fighting games when there are better projects out there and so I believe Blazblue anime is a bad idea.

Not insulting BB, but even though the premise is great, the execution in CT and CS is awful: choppy, too many plotholes, asspull, unresolved plots, blah blah. It's ok for fighting game audience, but anime audience will not be so forgiving.
True, since a lot of BlazBlue fans would go on war if the directors and writers fail to comply with the story, and/or the character designs.
Yeah, BB has so many unresolved plots, but it's still a great game anyway.

And speaking of character designs, I like the designs on Calamity Trigger much better. More serious and accurate than the CS ones.
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Old 2010-11-20, 12:47   Link #2068
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Even if CS' OP was bad, all they're doing for CS2 is adding 4 new characters, a re-balance of the other characters, and probably a few other things as well. I feel that isn't enough to warrant a whole new opening sequence.

But they did it anyway and it's better. So good for them.


TBH, I'd prefer they just start working on BB3 rather than trying to improve CS. But that's just me.
Im guessing they might already be working on BB3 but using BBCS2 as an attempt to fix problems in the balance perspecitive currently in the game, and give them more time to produce BB3. Right now there are a good number of problems with the gameplay balance and mechanic wise, so after BBCS2 is made, they can use that as a refrence of what was good and what was bad so they dont make the same mistakes in BB3.
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Old 2010-11-22, 00:52   Link #2069
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Even if CS' OP was bad, all they're doing for CS2 is adding 4 new characters, a re-balance of the other characters, and probably a few other things as well. I feel that isn't enough to warrant a whole new opening sequence.

But they did it anyway and it's better. So good for them.


TBH, I'd prefer they just start working on BB3 rather than trying to improve CS. But that's just me.
It's for the arcade version I think, they've always had separate intros for the arcade releases, and really why not is the question I'm going to ask? Not like it's a big budget buster since they're not making a whole new game, in my opinion, and maybe it hurt their prides to see all the complaints. Plus its a good way to promote Asami Imai, like they have been with Kanako Kondou, who are both still relatively new to this whole thing.

Bah, they just released the game last summer, I don't blame them for taking a break and letting this one sink in a little with some minor improvements here and there, as the above mentioned post about using it as a reference point for when they actually do develop BB3
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Old 2010-11-22, 15:48   Link #2070
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That is pretty much it right there. The most canonical route being of course the True End storyline, but even those would need in-depth explaining because several character storylines are required to fully understand what they're saying. Well not fully since most of Blazblue is still a mystery.

I'd like an OVA atleast.
Yeah, an OVA from the novel or the wheel of fortune drama CD (the only canon one) would be great.

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True, since a lot of BlazBlue fans would go on war if the directors and writers fail to comply with the story, and/or the character designs.
Yeah, BB has so many unresolved plots, but it's still a great game anyway.
There are two routes to make BB anime good. One, make it serious, which means taking only the premise and rewriting the story, plugging the plot holes, making up a good closure, etc. I'm afraid that this may require focusing on the main chars (the siblings) and neglecting the secondary characters. Two, make it so bad that it's good ala Sengoku Basara, which means focusing more on flashy fights and fanservice, and less on story/substance. The first one may alienate existing fans, the second one may alienate non-gamers. Either way, you cannot please everyone.

Taking the middle approach is bad, since I believe that it's the main reason why CT and CS story modes feel half-baked and mediocre.
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Old 2010-11-22, 17:41   Link #2071
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Hmmm Personally I'm torn between letting it balance itself out in the middle and being okay with them going for the flashy fights and fanservice route.

The problem with the "middle" in my opinion is if the amount of episodes is small then going the "middle" route would be a bad idea, however if the amount of episodes is at least 30 then I can see the Anime doing just fine being serious some times and just being flashy and goofy other times.

Problem with being nothing but flashy fights and fanservice is that it would annoy most original fans of the series, but at the same time it could also make the series fun. ><

Problem with being too serious is that even the game series isn't ALWAYS that serious, it occasionally takes a moment to be light and humorous. That's about the only problems I see with it being too serious.
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Old 2010-11-23, 08:26   Link #2072
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I used to think that Hakumen is the most serious character of BlazBlue with his no nonsense attitude but after watching this vid featuring a match with Makoto, I can't take him seriously anymore (see the conclusion of Round 3 if you want to know what I mean ).

Spoiler for Epic WTF?!!:
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Old 2010-11-23, 12:39   Link #2073
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Problem with being too serious is that even the game series isn't ALWAYS that serious, it occasionally takes a moment to be light and humorous. That's about the only problems I see with it being too serious.
Sorry if I'm not clear. When I say "serious", I was not referring to light hearted subplots or humors.

What I am trying to say is that ridiculous asspull, deus ex machina, etc need to either go or be built up properly. For instance, the never ending resurrection of Nu, Bolverk revealed as seal for Noel out of nowhere, Hazama saying that everything is just as planned in CS end, etc.

My problem with the game story is that the story is supposed to be dead serious (especially the endings), yet the execution is so full of ridiculous plots that it's hard to take seriously.
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Old 2010-11-23, 15:33   Link #2074
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Bolverk had already caused Noel some changes when used before actually revealed as a seal, giving some build for it that it actually had some greater part in the later future. As for Hazama---what the hell, he did 'travelling' all those worlds to see al the possibilty happens. Not to mention to have someone really-not-expected like Bang etc comes out to see him during the ending which then he mentioned to being Continuum Shift's fault; yet after beating Ragna and the others, he never seems to stop 'travelling' all those possibility which, if you think about it, should give you a hint that he's actually planning something.

----I'm sorry, but I fail to see that it's a ridiculous deus ex machina plot
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Old 2010-11-23, 16:11   Link #2075
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I have to admit at times BlazBlue's plot is pretty hard to follow, but complexity is usually a good thing and shows just how much the writer has thought everything through.

Plus the universe is surprisingly expansive and developed despite the games taking place in a limited setting and the characters are incredibly diverse and almost covers every trope imaginable.

These are the exact reasons I like BlazBlue and why it's my favorite fighting game series.


I wouldn't mind them trying an anime adaptation and see how they fare with it. If it's not that great then I'll just stick with the games. What is there to lose?
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Old 2010-11-23, 17:36   Link #2076
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When is there going to be a part when Sol Badguy comes in and kicks Ragnas ass and ends the series altogether with his badass powers

I'm joking obviously, but do any of you think we'll ever see the GG cast again, I mean besides the fact all BB characters or most are hybrids of them

damn you Sega , why do you need rights for a game you don't even work on any more
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Old 2010-11-24, 10:03   Link #2077
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Sorry to interude, haven't you guys did read these rumor before?:

* The rumor said Blazblue Continuum Shift II is still developing such as Kokonoe & Relius Clover, where these character hinted in new intro. As for Kokonoe, the leaker find something that "Baiken tribute is still unrevealed", probably Kokonoe was based of Baiken if Kokonoe finally as playable character, nether necessary if Kokonoe's gameplay same Baiken fighthing style.

*Many leaker believe if Saya/Imperial from Blazblue CSII as finally true as boss fight but the new intro didn't show her, probably still developing.

source from http://twitter.com/Tokirisan

I think this is just GRAIN OF SALT if you ask me but the intro did show Kokonoe & Relius Clover's debut. Man..i hope it's true >_<
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Old 2010-11-24, 20:53   Link #2078
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orry to interude, haven't you guys did read these rumor before?:

* The rumor said Blazblue Continuum Shift II is still developing such as Kokonoe & Relius Clover, where these character hinted in new intro. As for Kokonoe, the leaker find something that "Baiken tribute is still unrevealed", probably Kokonoe was based of Baiken if Kokonoe finally as playable character, nether necessary if Kokonoe's gameplay same Baiken fighthing style.

*Many leaker believe if Saya/Imperial from Blazblue CSII as finally true as boss fight but the new intro didn't show her, probably still developing.

source from http://twitter.com/Tokirisan

I think this is just GRAIN OF SALT if you ask me but the intro did show Kokonoe & Relius Clover's debut. Man..i hope it's true >_<
So...to sum it up....we're going to have 2 new characters !? Hell yeah, I'm in for this one
I was hoping for Shadow rather than Saya though...
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Old 2010-11-24, 23:09   Link #2079
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I highly HIGHLY doubt Kokonoe will be a playable fighter. The girl just doesn't seem like the type to be on the front lines and fighting herself. The fact that she uses Iron Tager and Lambda to fight for her just confirms it to me.
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Old 2010-11-24, 23:47   Link #2080
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Kokonoe? Fighting? I guess she could scratch them and verbally abuse them. Although I wouldn't really disclose the possibility of her being a playable character. Probably not, but possibly yes.

The same goes for Saya. What is she going to do? Headbutt with her tiara? Play dead? Attack with pretty words? I can see Relius being a playable character because... well, look at him. He's a buffed-out Phantom of the Opera with a mannequin that can shred you into pieces.

I can see Phantom being a playable character too since we really don't know what it's capability is besides magic, and even then it's heavily implied who Phantom really is.
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