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Old 2010-12-08, 20:05   Link #121
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That's nonsense on all three counts. Killing Kira and Lacus is not the only way SEED can successfully move forward. Having something tragic happen to them is not natural simply because they're thought of as the pinnacle of previous CE series. And making a better story doesn't depend on having new characters.
Considering how the end of Destiny played out, I think it goes without saying that things would have potentially been much better had Kira actually died when the Freedom blew up...

No, new characters don't necessarily make for a better story but new characters allow for a new direction. I think what Deacon meant was that having entirely new characters allows for a story that's non-inclusive of the older characters. Thus, you end up not having that "dead weight", so to speak, tying you down as you try to move forward...

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Old 2010-12-08, 20:23   Link #122
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whats up with some people hating the seed cast every 2 post? i dislike 00 cast but you dont see me hating on them on anything related to 00. some people need to grow up. if your cup of tea isnt the CE, there still unicorn which is something always to look foward to.
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Old 2010-12-08, 22:03   Link #123
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look will ya stop mention thinking "kill the wabbit" or kira-Lacus really you know loyal fans would go NUKE-crazy on it.

geez look IF 3rd GS maybe it might kira-Lacus' child or descendant for it or maybe back to them again.

& why is that you should check other 2 ideas as well for

1.we get a gundam tv series with main lead gundam pilot is a WOMAN (come on where let see it through a female's point of view)
The only problem is the huge % female fans only interesting homos males thats the reason why those staff took advantages to make rating so popular.

Lets hope they make leading protagonist women we've seen enough of gays version series.

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The only way SEED can successfully move forward is if they kill off Kira and Lacus. They're the absolute pinnacle of both series, so having something tragic happen is only natural. Plus, it'll allow them to have a FRESH START with NEW CHARACTERS that can actually make for a better story.
I agree this post why do they praising him so much like a God they just conflict-maker like World War 1 it didn't solve anything.
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Old 2010-12-08, 22:10   Link #124
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Considering how the end of Destiny played out, I think it goes without saying that things would have potentially been much better had Kira actually died when the Freedom blew up...
Of course, things could also be potentially worse.
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No, new characters don't necessarily make for a better story but new characters allow for a new direction. I think what Deacon meant was that having entirely new characters allows for a story that's non-inclusive of the older characters. Thus, you end up not having that "dead weight", so to speak, tying you down as you try to move forward...
Sure, but that still has nothing to do with making a better story. And any character, old or new, can be a "dead weight" if you don't do anything with them.
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Old 2010-12-08, 22:42   Link #125
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If, and I do stress if, there is another CE series, I'd like to see the protagonist, if it is not Kira again, be a Natural. I was all for seeing a female protagonist until I met D-KLAC, so I'd rather not have a female protagonist in the next series.
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Old 2010-12-08, 22:43   Link #126
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By all means, have a female protagonist, sans the pink hair, and conspiracy theories.
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Old 2010-12-08, 22:48   Link #127
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female protagonist would be real nice!!...(a bit off topic, but to anyone who is interested, patlabor is one of the few mech series that has the female as the main pilot..and patlabor is a great anime and manga series!!)
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Old 2010-12-08, 23:19   Link #128
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ah see i knew you're thinking of having a main lead female gundam pilot protagnist.

really that is like must be the idea got to happen really we must suggest it to twitter, facebook, myspace, petition, etc for that happen.

come on sunrise/bandai it's a new look by having a woman take the lead in gundam world.
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Old 2010-12-08, 23:21   Link #129
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Speak of the devil... *sigh*
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Old 2010-12-08, 23:23   Link #130
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did everyone forget that the OVA Gundam: War in the Pocket had a female protagonist?
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Old 2010-12-08, 23:24   Link #131
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did everyone forget that the OVA Gundam: War in the Pocket had a female protagonist?
The protagonist is actually the little boy.
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Old 2010-12-08, 23:33   Link #132
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i was refer to a 50eps gundam tv series with a main lead female gundam pilot protagnist.

well geez unless you a character that mood/personality like a dexter morgan in it?
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Old 2010-12-09, 00:15   Link #133
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You really don't have to completely kill them off. Just have them NOT take the leading role again would be enough for this specific point.
I think that Kira should put over Shinn and become his mentor for the next SEED project. Athrun tried to do that in Destiny. Also, Lacus needs to be humanized (i.e., remove the Mary Sue-ness).

I've been wondering... is Morosawa really overprotective of Lacus?

I don't know what's wrong with killing (or lat least, making them MIA) SEED's Big Four (Kira, Athrun, Lacus, Cagalli) off? Amuro's and Char's fates are still unknown after Char's Counterattack, and yet they're still popular.
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Old 2010-12-09, 00:20   Link #134
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whats up with some people hating the seed cast every 2 post? i dislike 00 cast but you dont see me hating on them on anything related to 00. some people need to grow up. if your cup of tea isnt the CE, there still unicorn which is something always to look foward to.
Because you can't deny the fact that they ruined GSD. I didn't hate Kira or Lacus until GSD, honestly. It has nothing to do about growing up or not. I have high tolerance for anime character (I'm not sure you people remember me, who kept defending Suzaku in Code Geass because I think he has his reason), but in Kira and Lacus's case, there is a limit at how ridiculous it can be. I am not hating Seed cast, I just hate those 2. In fact, I hate those 2 in anime form. At least in SRW I still like them to the certain.
The fanbase didn't help either.

As for female protagonist, I remember there is Ecole du Ciel, isn't it?
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Old 2010-12-09, 01:27   Link #135
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Because you can't deny the fact that they ruined GSD.
Of course you can, since that's a matter of opinion, not fact.
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Old 2010-12-09, 01:32   Link #136
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Just something quick, I don't think there will be a female Gundam protagonist at least in a TV series. In OVA and manga, it's more likely to happen as opposed to TV. Since Gundam in particular, it's aimed at young kids or salaryman adults (since Unicorn went to the old style designs).
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Old 2010-12-09, 01:37   Link #137
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Of course you can, since that's a matter of opinion, not fact.
Ding ding. You are correct, sir.

And I'd be all for a female protagonist as long as they don't:

A: Make her a sex object.
B: Go the alternate route and make her the "Badass! Femme! Fatale!", such as the most terrible Final Fantasy main character in history, Claire "Lightning" Farron.
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Old 2010-12-09, 02:01   Link #138
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well yea female protagnist got be like female version of amuro, heero, kira, athrun, set-light, etc other male lead but as a female.

also yet IF they did go for a female any idea for the seiyu give my suggest wolud be a female seiyu with no gundam experience.
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Old 2010-12-09, 02:06   Link #139
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well yea female protagnist got be like female version of amuro, heero, kira, athrun, set-light, etc other male lead but as a female.

also yet IF they did go for a female any idea for the seiyu give my suggest wolud be a female seiyu with no gundam experience.
I disagree. The female protagonist should be unique; not another expy.
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Old 2010-12-09, 02:07   Link #140
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Ding ding. You are correct, sir.

And I'd be all for a female protagonist as long as they don't:

A: Make her a sex object.
B: Go the alternate route and make her the "Badass! Femme! Fatale!", such as the most terrible Final Fantasy main character in history, Claire "Lightning" Farron.
what?! Lightning s awesome.. that only thing that destroyed her persona was Snow and Serah..

please, not another 00 series.. no offense but 00 was meh.. the mecha designs, for me, was terrible.. and Setsuna being a rip-off of Heero?? gimme a break, Heero was a better protagonist really..

I'd prefer another CE series possibly a hundred years after GSD to start something new.. although I wouldn't mind if Kira takes the spotlight again.. this time, hopefully, he will be up against someone related to his past.. I'll just pretend Shinn did not exist..

They need to milk up CE series more..

UC series?? well, if it's a direct sequel to Gundam UNicorn then I would watch it.. provided that Banagher and Mineva are still the leading cast . I know Unicorn is not finished yet but hey, who knows..

Another WING series?? nah, GWING is too milked up in my opinion.. it already ended when the total disarmament treaty happened so i highly doubt another series related to WING would come out..

so i think it's either gonna be a CE series or a direct sequel to Gundam Unicorn
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