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Old 2010-12-08, 11:32   Link #7341
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Spoiler for Chapter 300 - The Return of the King (王の帰還):
From that whole thing.. I'm guessing that the entire chapter is a dream, even when he 'wakes up' since without time travel being involved (on a grand scale), Hina-tan being Chibi-Athena's parent makes no sense except for pointing out (aside from Hata being a Teasing Creator), that Hayate really loves her.
Wild guess that Hinagiku (and maybe Hayate?) being Athena's mother(/parents) is kinda amusing plot point, even if it does make absolutely no sense in the long run.
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Old 2010-12-08, 12:43   Link #7342
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Unless there's some weird pime taradox happening, they cannot be Athena's parents. During TEotW arc, if you remember, in the chapter Hayate tried to win that ring for Athena, a newspaper was shown, with an article saying something like "The daughter of the Tenōsu family's whereabouts remain unknown." and there was a picture of Athena next to that article. Not to mention that, unless Athena is into incestuous relationships (nothing wrong with that), then I don't think she'd love Hayate the way she does if he was her father.

But hey, there's some Hayate lookalike who is supposed to be Nagi's father. So, who knows?
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Old 2010-12-08, 16:47   Link #7343
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Spoiler for Chapter 300 - The Return of the King (王の帰還):
Thanks for the summary.
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Personally, I think Hata did a great job in this chapter.
I thought so as well. Not only do we get some of the older plot points starting to come into play (Aika) but it feels that there is actual events happening here, with Athena coming back mysteriously and giving cryptic clues to what is going on with this child. This was a seriously great chapter, best one we had in a long time now.

Of course this just underlines how boring and uneventful the current arc had turned out thus far. It's sad, but I'm thinking that Hata might have just put off everything about Nagi/Luca so he could tell about something with more substance.
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On the other hand, I doubt fans can accept a harem end or no-resolution end. Hayate has to make a choice eventually. This is just postponing the decision down the road.
Personally, I think that at the very end, we'll get a definitive paring however everyone will still be together as one big family. Of course, the point is too postpone the final paring as long as humanly possible to make sure you can keep all of the different factions reading on till the end.
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Old 2010-12-08, 19:14   Link #7344
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Ah took me a while but I finally finished my post talking about the popularity contest results here.

Maybe I should add pictures...
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Old 2010-12-08, 22:28   Link #7345
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All around great chapter. It was wonderful to see Athena again. The panel where she got close to Hayate and both of them blushed up a storm reminded me of just why I loved them so much as a couple. The series is definitely richer with her than without her. (I tried to go back and read some of what I missed, but...)
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Old 2010-12-08, 23:17   Link #7346
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Out of time? Don't want any question to be asked? Hug the person to stop him from thinking...a new effective method.

More Athena goodness is always welcome.
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Old 2010-12-09, 00:26   Link #7347
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Out of time? Don't want any question to be asked? Hug the person to stop him from thinking...a new effective method.
For some reason this "out of time" line give me Nagato Yuki vibes in that scene where Kyon and Haruhi was trapped in the school.
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Old 2010-12-09, 02:04   Link #7348
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can't predict the next development
I hope this manga will start some serious arc like Athena's arc
But, i'm glad can see Athena again
It's the only reason why I'm still reading this manga
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Old 2010-12-09, 02:12   Link #7349
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can't predict the next development
I hope this manga will start some serious arc like Athena's arc
But, i'm glad can see Athena again
It's the only reason why I'm still reading this manga
Even if Athena does actually return, there isn't any hint of seriousness that other arcs that included her had. Starting with closing several humorous plot threads being closed and starting at least one or two others, it's kinda hard to see this as serious development.
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Old 2010-12-09, 03:28   Link #7350
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Even if Athena does actually return, there isn't any hint of seriousness that other arcs that included her had.
Unless I'm mistaken you for believing that the previous arcs that involved Athena hold no seriousness,
I think it's either you have read a different manga, defined "seriousness" differently, skimmed through the chapters really, really fast, or skipped those arcs entirely.

For one thing (out of many), the possibility of the end of the world if Midas were able to obtain the King Jewel and the power in RG. And, it seems that the current arc is heading toward a similar direction relating to the RG.
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Old 2010-12-09, 06:17   Link #7351
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Unless I'm mistaken you for believing that the previous arcs that involved Athena hold no seriousness,
I think it's either you have read a different manga, defined "seriousness" differently, skimmed through the chapters really, really fast, or skipped those arcs entirely.
Actually, he is saying the previous arcs that involved her were serious. What he said was that this arc didn't seem to have any hint to make us think this arc would turn into anything serious.

I've got to disagree, though, since the Greece arc started almost pretty much as any other arc. However, if gradually became serious. This arc, although we have the whole Nagi mangaka thing, has indeed shown some hints of seriousness due to the inclusion of Yozora.
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Old 2010-12-09, 07:08   Link #7352
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This arc starts with her telling Hayate she doesn't have time to explain something, she's looking for his brother, and grabbing her chest in pain. While mini-Athena is darling, it also doesn't mean that the arc is going to be fluff.
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it was the first time that we hear Hayate's brother name no
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Old 2010-12-09, 11:00   Link #7354
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it was the first time that we hear Hayate's brother name no
No, I'm pretty sure we found out his brother's name after Midas was beaten.
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i havent seen this forum so lively in a while...man Athena really DOES bring things to life!
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Old 2010-12-09, 11:29   Link #7356
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I wanted to say the same thing, but decided against it.
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Old 2010-12-09, 11:36   Link #7357
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Because many people think that if Athena appeared then the plot will start to become more serious again. At least that's what I think----

...as for me though, a screenshot of loli athena is what made me read this manga again ;_;
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Old 2010-12-09, 11:43   Link #7358
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This arc starts with her telling Hayate she doesn't have time to explain something, she's looking for his brother, and grabbing her chest in pain. While mini-Athena is darling, it also doesn't mean that the arc is going to be fluff.
I, for one, think that the appearance of the loli-Athena meant serious business, at least according to the conversation Athena had with Hayate in the dream. It sounded like Athena is planning something.

With the abilities that Athena has shown to be capable of, I wonder whether the loli-Athena is the real Athena or a being created from magic. Need the next chapter...
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Finally, I was waiting for another athena related arc to start up, it's pretty much the main back story related arcs.
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Actually, he is saying the previous arcs that involved her were serious. What he said was that this arc didn't seem to have any hint to make us think this arc would turn into anything serious.

I've got to disagree, though, since the Greece arc started almost pretty much as any other arc. However, if gradually became serious. This arc, although we have the whole Nagi mangaka thing, has indeed shown some hints of seriousness due to the inclusion of Yozora.
Exactly, and the Greece arc (what I call the 'Golden Week' arc), is probably two or three arcs under the same banner. Wataru's trip and the trio+Hina and Ayumu's travels were humor, Mynokos was humor, Athens arc was serious. Athena was only involved with the last one, thus she is only involved with the seriousness.

Yozora's involvement has been played for humor, and there's no actual connection to Athena yet.
I still stand by my statement of Athena = the story turning serious, which this chapter doesn't even hinted at.

Another thing that makes me think that this is in Hayate's mind/filler, last time Ikuza was mentioned by Athena, she was asking Hayate about his whereabouts, now she apparently has found him, only a few days later. Not likely. She didn't even find Hayate that quickly, and he wasn't in hiding.
Also, the number of Case Closed references. If you look back to (I think it was) 100, they gave Detective Conan a chapter, it was related as a dream and it had to do with the character polls.
Except for the 'dream' explanation right now, it's following the same path, and that one was not touched on again since. Although it was the lead-in for a plotline arc, it wasn't started until the end, and wasn't in the middle of another arc like this one is.
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