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Old 2010-11-22, 08:58   Link #2841
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I'm imagining a Saber Alter in Avalon. Merlin would not be pleased...
I don't think they'd let her in.

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All his talk about a copy always being weaker than the original and him calling Archer and Shirou 'fakers' just because they projected copies of the original...
I think that's only in regards to the weapons.

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Why does Shirou turn into swords? I always thought it was because of his origin, but recently someone has mentioned that it was a passive effect of UBW, kind of like Chaos's reality marble.
Isn't his origin UBW? Or is it his soul. God, this whole "origin" stuff is confusing. Damn you Nasu.
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Old 2010-11-22, 09:47   Link #2842
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I think that's only in regards to the weapons.
I believe the gist of what Haak's trying to say is that if this Gilgamesh is a copy from the throne of heroes, then all of the weapons in his Gate of Babylon are copies too, so he's doing the exact same thing he keeps insulting Archer and Shirou for doing.

As to why he does that... *shrug*. It's Gilgamesh. He's a douche.
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Old 2010-11-22, 10:19   Link #2843
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Who said his gate is a copy?
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Old 2010-11-22, 10:37   Link #2844
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It's Gilgamesh. He's a douche.
This pretty much sums up any question anyone ever had about Gilgamesh.
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Old 2010-11-22, 12:50   Link #2845
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As to why he does that... *shrug*. It's Gilgamesh. He's a douche.
Yes nicely put. XD
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Old 2010-11-22, 13:22   Link #2846
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As to why he does that... *shrug*. It's Gilgamesh. He's a douche.
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Old 2010-12-11, 18:01   Link #2847
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Hi,

I'm new to this anime, but one thing I'm really, really confused on.

In episode one/two, when Rin first saves Shiro from Lancer, she dosen't see his face after he's been basically killed, and says "the least I can do is sit with you while you die" but when she sees his face due to moving slightly, she says "why? why does it have to be you of all people" but I'm confused as from what I gather they didn't even know each other, so why was she so emotional about someone she's never met?

Anyone who can clear that up for me I would really be appreciative too.
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Old 2010-12-11, 18:07   Link #2848
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Because she already knows him, although only from a distance. This will probably be partially explained later on in the anime (I'm not sure, because I've never actually watched the anime and I can't recall what exactly is shown in the Fate route of the Visual Novel either), and it's certainly explained in the Visual Novel which FSN is based on.

The Visual Novel shows that there are several reasons why she's upset about his death.
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Old 2010-12-11, 18:20   Link #2849
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There's a lot of stuff that is a mystery early on but you can piece together as the anime goes on, and figure more out if you dig into the game.

I wouldn't look for spoilers or anything about it yet. :P
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Old 2010-12-11, 18:28   Link #2850
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Well, like I said, I'm not sure that the anime ever does explain that, because in the game I think it's mainly explained in HF (and partially in UBW).
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Old 2010-12-11, 18:48   Link #2851
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Hi,

I'm new to this anime, but one thing I'm really, really confused on.

In episode one/two, when Rin first saves Shiro from Lancer, she dosen't see his face after he's been basically killed, and says "the least I can do is sit with you while you die" but when she sees his face due to moving slightly, she says "why? why does it have to be you of all people" but I'm confused as from what I gather they didn't even know each other, so why was she so emotional about someone she's never met?

Anyone who can clear that up for me I would really be appreciative too.
You can still surmise that for some reason, he is special to her for some reason and because of that, she saves him. I don't know if it's ever addressed in the anime. It may have been in the movie, but my memory is foggy there. As for the game, I do believe it is revealed exactly why at the very end of the second route, Unlimited Blade Works.

So, play the game at some point in your life.
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Old 2010-12-11, 18:56   Link #2852
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No, UBW doesn't reveal the true reason why she cares about him so much, although I believe it does hint at part of it.
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Old 2010-12-11, 19:01   Link #2853
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Let's take this to the Fate/stay night Game discussion (Warning: Spoilers) thread.
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Old 2010-12-14, 13:34   Link #2854
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Was there a possibility that Saber Alter should have been stabbed with Rule Breaker?
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Old 2010-12-14, 14:01   Link #2855
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I asked that before here.

I wouldn't have saved her.
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Old 2010-12-14, 14:07   Link #2856
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Well, that's not actually certain, because there's no canon information on that fact, but it seems unlikely that it would have, and even if it had
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Old 2010-12-14, 14:10   Link #2857
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Well, that's not actually certain, because there's no canon information on that fact, but it seems unlikely that it would have, and even if it had
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Old 2010-12-15, 16:11   Link #2858
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Guys, use the game thread. We don't want to get in trouble.
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Old 2010-12-19, 16:58   Link #2859
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I just realized when Shirou first saw Berserker and registered his stats, Berserker didn't have the mad enhancement boost active.

Does that mean the stats that are shown = Berserker without mad enhancement?
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Old 2010-12-21, 10:02   Link #2860
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In Heaven's Feel, when Rider... erm, 'mana drains' Shirou. Is it purely a dream thing, or is she actually physically there in the room having sex with him?
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