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Old 2010-12-09, 09:29   Link #2101
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Yay... the reason why I even got the game in the first place doesn't come out until a minimum of 4 months (and it might be even longer than that). =/

Guess I have no other option but to wait... I don't wanna just sell my copy and have the wait be for nothing.
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Old 2010-12-10, 03:36   Link #2102
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We have some more Platinum's gameplay in the mean time:

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Old 2010-12-11, 17:34   Link #2103
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JPN BBS Week 1 Tier List CS2

SS: Arakune
S: Noel, Makoto
A: Lambda-11
B: Jin, Bang, Valkenhayn, Carl, Tsubaki, Hakumen
C: Platinum, Mu-12, Tager, Rachel
D: Litchi, Hazama
Bottom: Taokaka, Ragna
smh @ the bottom 4, really they only had to tone down Litchi and Ragna a tad... maybe next time.
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Old 2010-12-11, 19:35   Link #2104
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Stunedge over on Dustloop (who's actually played BBCS2) says the tier list is more like this.

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S(God Like): Arakune
A(Strong): Makoto, Noel, Tsubaki, Valkenhyne
B(So-so): Ragna, Jin, Tager, Hakumen, Rachel, Hazama, Litchi, Lambda, Taokaka, Carl
C(hmm): Platinum, Bang, Mu
At any rate, it's only been 3 days. Any tier list you see isn't that reliable because people are still learning what's new.
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Old 2010-12-11, 21:26   Link #2105
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>Tsubaki to A tier
Yey !

So Ragna is on the bottom tier because he got too much nerf ?
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Old 2010-12-11, 21:43   Link #2106
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Oh great. The last thing I want is Arakune at S-tier. Playing against him is the fine define of "no-fun-match".

Platinum is C-tier, hmm? Not like it bothers me much, seeing how I still main Rachel currently.
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Old 2010-12-11, 21:54   Link #2107
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Phew... Haku and Lamby are still good to use. Was afraid they'd be bumped all the way down. Tier B isn't bad.
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Old 2010-12-11, 21:58   Link #2108
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From what I heard, C-tier doesn't mean they are bad. It's just they are not as good as those above. Which mean the game is pretty balance right now compare to BBCS.

Aside from S-tier Arakune....
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Old 2010-12-11, 22:03   Link #2109
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Wasn't Arakune god-tier in CT? Bet all the Arakune mains are howling with joy at this.

Anyway, I'd say the more characters we have in the center of the list (A or B) the more balanced the game is.

14 out of 18 is pretty damn good I'd think. Shame that Bang got nerfed hard though. D=
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Old 2010-12-11, 22:04   Link #2110
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Nice to my main Tsubaki not bottom tier. She needed some changes from BBCS, I like what I saw from the few vids I saw earlier today. Now with Ragna nerfed. Hopefully the Tsubaki and Ragna matchup shouldn't be a straight up nightmare for Tsubaki.
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Old 2010-12-11, 23:20   Link #2111
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I don't believe Bang is that bad, as a Bang main he still looks quite useful
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Old 2010-12-11, 23:22   Link #2112
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Old 2010-12-11, 23:25   Link #2113
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Personally very happy to see Noel and Tsubaki are much stronger in this game....

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From what I heard, C-tier doesn't mean they are bad. It's just they are not as good as those above. Which mean the game is pretty balance right now compare to BBCS.

Aside from S-tier Arakune....
You can't really see how well balanced a game is until you look @ a matchup chart.
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Old 2010-12-11, 23:35   Link #2114
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strangely, i don't see any evidence of Arakune being s-tier. every video i've seen (and i've seen all the uploaded ones thus far) show that his curse loop is now only like 4 or 5k. plus everyone's combos have changed a lot, so no one is really being used to potential. except for maybe Jin, because he's incredibly similar to his CS self. basically, jin's gotten a lot of buffs and not too many nerfs, so he should be pretty high on the list.

they bumped up /\'s damage a bit, so i'm happy. standard sword combo does 2.2, everyone can be jdd j2dd djdd dj2dd-ed for extra damage. i can't wait for the console patch.
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Old 2010-12-11, 23:50   Link #2115
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Is jourdal's youtube channel still one of the best places to watch BB vids?
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Old 2010-12-12, 00:08   Link #2116
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yep. he's posting BBCS2 stuff too. 2 updates today. tsubaki looks good now. might be worthwhile to finally figure out how to play her. when my friends and i do randoms, its always just normals normals normals. we never even bother charging the meter. haha.
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Old 2010-12-12, 20:29   Link #2117
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Some Vids from Dustloop:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS9C47xoIeE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUCKGEoD6tw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLaVQ0tXdgc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykXTAj7hgz4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bc7rzHawc0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cO0lXr3pd0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfnOkTD2oTg

The game seems to be quite a bit faster now.

Anyway, I'm not buying Mu being C tier if anything she looks more like the low A or high B, but I guess that stuff is a bit early to talk about. Regardless she seems very strong right now a long with Lambda, Noel and Tsubaki.

More vids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRwffB-nOEE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCYDr6LsRu8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sla9hXqo3ZY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUUhJlu2_oo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq8UdEtN9lo

Rejoice Rachel fans her legs are no longer broken! Bang on the other .... lol

Platinum is kinda "eh?" at moment though.
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Old 2010-12-12, 22:02   Link #2118
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Anyway, I'm not buying Mu being C tier if anything she looks more like the low A or high B, but I guess that stuff is a bit early to talk about. Regardless she seems very strong right now a long with Lambda, Noel and Tsubaki.
Stunedge said it would probably be more accurate to organise them in A, A-, B and B- tiers and completely omitting S and C because in his opinion there's not much disparity in strength among the characters this time around.


Also, I disagree that Platinum is "eh?" at the moment after seeing Shadow play as Platinum rather effectively.
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Old 2010-12-12, 23:36   Link #2119
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well, if stunedge said to jump off a bridge, would you do it? haha. jk.

but yeah, it seems that this version is a bit more well rounded than the previous two. no one really knows how to play platinum. Mu does look a bit meh to me. the delay between putting out the stein and having it shoot seems to have increased a bit. Makoto is looking pretty ridiculous right now though. i'm surprised they didn't change her 0 frame startup super..
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Old 2010-12-13, 00:52   Link #2120
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It's shaping good so far. Well, I've not been seeing Arakune did anything that's worth a S-tier, aside from 100% curse combo. Everyone looks like they still have a chance against each other, and Rachel/Platinum look good there :3.

I'm not at the level where I should take tier list seriously, though.
Btw, in my opinion, announcer got a nerf, once again.

[edit]
Best Platinum I've seen up until now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5asnPWWPdXo
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