2010-12-19, 00:21 | Link #10782 | |
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You made a claim that No other nation has had an issue with allowing gays to serve openly in the military. That statement is blatantly wrong. The facts are what they are, don't go trying to put a spin on them because you don't like them. For anyone who would like more information on this here's the BBC take on it. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6356707.stm The Guardian's story on it. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007...ia.lukeharding Hopefully the end of DADT will help create more transparency in the military with regard to alleged sexual abuses that have taken place over the years. (see: archived Florida Today article 2003)
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2010-12-19, 00:28 | Link #10783 | |
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Does that mean it is a good reason to prevent women from serving? I don't believe so. |
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2010-12-19, 00:31 | Link #10784 |
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No, I'm not engaging in a "For or Against" argument of any kind here.
All I did was point out that Kumai was wrong in his/her statement. That's it. I'm not interesting in preventing anyone from serving. The military is fully capable of assimilating homosexuals into its ranks. They've already been there for decades, probably since the inception of the US armed forces. The point in posting the archive article was to show that there is a problem in the US armed forces with sexual assaults (of both men and women) and I hope the end of DADT will help shed more light on this by allowing the Inspector General's office greater powers to take actions against these crimes (no matter the sexual orientation of the perp).
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2010-12-19, 00:54 | Link #10787 |
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Belarus vote set to extend 16-year Lukashenko rule
http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNew...6BH1TY20101218
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2010-12-19, 04:46 | Link #10789 |
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On DADT, as a serviceman in my country, I would only mind if a fellow soldier who is gay forces himself on me, which I understand is not how gays work in general. Apart from that, they fight and they die, so what shouldn't they be free from the need to lie?
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2010-12-19, 05:43 | Link #10790 | |
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2010-12-19, 07:25 | Link #10791 |
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Madoff insider’s estate to give back $7.2-billion
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1843354/
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2010-12-19, 08:58 | Link #10794 |
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That's true, but often the perception is stronger than the reality in people's minds. Most of the former soldiers there were citing that as a reason they didn't report it. Neither the rapists nor victims in these cases are likely gay, but that won't stop the fear of being labeled as such on the part of the victim.
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2010-12-19, 09:00 | Link #10795 | |
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2010-12-19, 09:37 | Link #10797 | |
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2010-12-19, 13:39 | Link #10799 |
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I fear the only way we shall see Lukashenko leaving the political stage is via a casket. Similar to "Turkmenbashi" (natural passing away) or Nicolae Ceaucescu (by trial and immediate shooting death by the opposition).
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2010-12-19, 14:05 | Link #10800 | ||
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Bill Clinton pushed for it to protect gays in the military because of DOD Directive 1332.14 which banned gays period. Whether intensional or not, this ban kept a tight lid on the abuses done to both hetero- and homosexuals in the US armed forces because of the fear of being ousted or court martialed due to sexuality (whether real or perceived). The end of DADT really doesn't change much as far as military law is concerned. So long as UCMJ 925 Article 125 exists in its current form, anyone engaging in anal-sex, "carnal sex" (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean), and beastiality, is subject to a court-martial. Therefore, until the UCMJ is amended (and I believe it will be) the military still can court martial anyone engaging in sodomy. Hopefully the end of DADT will change the meaning of sodomy to FORCED anal sex, so consenting homosexuals can live their personal lives in peace while actual criminals can be pursued and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the UCMJ. I sincerely hope that the end of DADT will spark an awakening of the myriad of problems that plague the US armed forces: everything from man-on-woman rape, same-sex rapes, prostitution problems, and pediophilic abuses. There are a lot more actual problems in the social lives of US servicemen and women than people of the same sex who happen to be in love with each other. As Roger Rambo pointed out, straight men can finally come out of the closet in the Navy. Now I'm through with DADT. It's repealed, and I'm very happy for the homosexual men and women in the service. Nevetheless, let's move on please. Moving on: Here's something that proves no good deed shall go unpunished. http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2010/1...rom-icy-water/
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