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Old 2010-12-19, 14:26   Link #321
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I agree, aliens being the focus of the 00 movie isn't exactly...spoilerish. It's fairly old and well known news.
As well, and technically speaking, Innovades are "aliens" unto themselves.

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But seriously, then what makes Gundam "Gundam"? Is it really just the V-fins? I believed Gundam was about Human and political drama and the harsh nature of war and the effect it has on people... Ideologies vs ideologies.. People vs people... am I wrong here?
If that's what Gundam is to be, then I think it'd have to involve more "grit" than it currently does. Though, for example 00 and SEED, portrayed war in a disheartening manner, most of the battles just turned into (though enjoyable to watch) sessions of both sides beam-spamming one another until there was nothing left. For the "harsh side of war" to shine through, more characters would need to die, Gundams would need to be less powerful, and the plot would have to be more detailed and more politically based instead of just being with respect to Gundams vs. all. Whether or not that'd happen is open to speculation, at least in my opinion...
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Old 2010-12-19, 14:40   Link #322
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Why are people so sure that we're the only one of the intelligent race in this world?
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Because... we haven't found another intelligent race?
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ABSOLUTELY
WHOA WHOA WHOA. Hey now. Let's not get ahead of ourselves!

God knows we haven't proved yet that we're the one intelligent race. __
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Old 2010-12-19, 15:01   Link #323
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seriously, i think those stuff are already enough.. what I meant is that ALIENS remove the REALISTIC vibe..

they can make it look as realistic as they can be.. but ALIENS are just..... too fictional..

perhaps 200 years from now those fictional particles, psychics, ghosts, mutants, and super robot magics, will really exist.. but ALIENS?? i don't think so...
Perhaps, but for me, the point of watching/reading a science fiction/fantasy story is about being able to imagine things that might not be realistic today (or even ever). Oh well, it's too bad that the presence of aliens in Gundam is too much for you to be able to suspend your disbelief.

But we'll see, no one has said this 2011 project will feature aliens, hopefully it'll be something that the majority of us will be able to accept (and maybe even enjoy).
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Old 2010-12-19, 15:05   Link #324
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Gundam isn't meant to be true to real life.

It's meant to realistic. Which means that robots have human pilots, military purposes and often aren't TOO overpowered or godlike. There are some exceptions.

@Dragon

What do you mean? You think chimps have their own science? Or maybe bigfoot has an entire race that lives underground and has harnessed nuclear power.

Or are you talking about the entire universe?
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Old 2010-12-19, 15:19   Link #325
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I'm merely annoyed that people are claiming that aliens are too unrealistic in a metaseries where one robot got superpowered by the souls of dead people. I think Monstert put it best, with his line about particles and psychics and ghosts and mutants.
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Old 2010-12-19, 15:34   Link #326
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Gundam isn't meant to be true to real life.

It's meant to realistic. Which means that robots have human pilots, military purposes and often aren't TOO overpowered or godlike. There are some exceptions.
I'm glad you acknowledged that. There certainly are, and if I may say so, these exceptions are nice additions to the franchise.
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Old 2010-12-19, 16:04   Link #327
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I'm merely annoyed that people are claiming that aliens are too unrealistic in a metaseries where one robot got superpowered by the souls of dead people. I think Monstert put it best, with his line about particles and psychics and ghosts and mutants.
Shhhhhh, Tomino says Newtypes aren't espers, he'll hear you!
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Old 2010-12-19, 16:37   Link #328
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I'm merely annoyed that people are claiming that aliens are too unrealistic in a metaseries where one robot got superpowered by the souls of dead people. I think Monstert put it best, with his line about particles and psychics and ghosts and mutants.
Agreed. Personally, I'm indifferent to the inclusion of aliens in the franchise and their potential future presence, but it's hypocritical to use the word "unrealistic" regarding them and laud other series for how they handled Netwtypes.
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Old 2010-12-19, 16:57   Link #329
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Agreed. Personally, I'm indifferent to the inclusion of aliens in the franchise and their potential future presence, but it's hypocritical to use the word "unrealistic" regarding them and laud other series for how they handled Netwtypes.
Hell, from what I've seen, aliens are closer to realism than Newtypes are. IIRC we still haven't gotten a proper explanation as to how a Newtype's physiology is different from a human's and such.
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Old 2010-12-19, 17:00   Link #330
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Hell, from what I've seen, aliens are closer to realism than Newtypes are. IIRC we still haven't gotten a proper explanation as to how a Newtype's physiology is different from a human's and such.
I don't think we have either. Everything's been very vague off the battlefield.
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Old 2010-12-19, 19:09   Link #331
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It's been said all new Newtype abilities are like The Force from Star Wars, very vague and very mysterious.

No telling what it really is, just gotta go by interpretation.
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Old 2010-12-20, 02:58   Link #332
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here's my opinions!

okawara returning as mecha designer? no prob. I like a lot of his gundams on GS/GSD include extreme gundam tachyon phase
alien, psychics, ghosts, mutants on gundam series? no prob
sequel from previous series? no prob
making new series? no prob also
main female lead/more female chara? no prob as long as she's cute or hot like on OG, not a manly female. more bishonen is of course acceptable
more cool gundams and have super robot magics? OH IT'S A MUST!!! I'm hoping for that so it will be more useful on game like SRW
and of course, I expect a good and complex story with awesome battle scene

ok that's all of them. hohohohoho...
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Old 2010-12-20, 03:16   Link #333
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I just hope they try hard for this series, overall 00 was probably one of my fav gundam series but it is not without issues as nothing is lol. They need to brake away from some of the real heavy stereotypes of the gundam universes. Not that they need to wipe out the heavy stereotypes but lessen there presence a little.
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Old 2010-12-20, 03:46   Link #334
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Why does March have to be so far?
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Old 2010-12-20, 04:21   Link #335
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Why does March have to be so far?
To torture us...
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Old 2010-12-20, 04:26   Link #336
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Personally I want the novels to go with the series.
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Old 2010-12-20, 04:58   Link #337
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So, anyone wanna make up names for this new series just for the LULZ? I got a few just off the top of my head.

Mobile Suit Gundam: Rising Fate
Mobile Suit Gundam: Space of Despair
Mobile Suit Gundam: Fallen Fire
Mobile Suit Gundam: Knights of Trinity

Yeah, really cliche and lame, but hey we got till March.

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Old 2010-12-20, 06:59   Link #338
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Mobile Suit Gundam: Deus Ex Machina.
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Old 2010-12-20, 07:06   Link #339
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Hell, from what I've seen, aliens are closer to realism than Newtypes are. IIRC we still haven't gotten a proper explanation as to how a Newtype's physiology is different from a human's and such.

Let's just say that the ESL where some of the most believable parts of Gundam 00.
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Old 2010-12-20, 07:56   Link #340
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Let's just say that the ESL where some of the most believable parts of Gundam 00.
yeah, compared to everything else, a metallic lifeform is tame
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