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Perfect 10 | 236 | 64.31% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 95 | 25.89% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 25 | 6.81% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 7 | 1.91% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 0.82% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 0.27% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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I've tried going over this exact same point with people (operative word being tried) and happen to agree completely that it doesn't really add up no matter how you try to spin it. It seems to contradict everything we've been told about the relationship between Haruhi, The Data Entity and Yuki Nagato circa volume 1. Indeed it makes no logical sense why if the Data Entity's emissary can just absorb Haruhi's power to create new data that the Data Entity couldn't just do the same and comprehend her powers through first hand experience since that is it's stated goal way back in volume 1 as established through one of Nagato's expository monologues. We're talking about a being who has another extension in Asakura Ryoko who doesn't subscribe to the idea of morality, the rights of the test subject, or sitting back to take mental notes in a largely uncontrolled experiment like Yuki Nagato did in the first season and who had no problem with trying to kill an innocent bystander in order to provoke Haruhi into a quick reaction so she could try to study and understand her completely in a relative controlled experiment. It stands to reason that the Data Entity could have just as easily made Ryoko the leader instead of Yuki, had Ryoko absorb Haruhi's powers and then just fiddle around with them herself in controlled experiments to try and understand their nature. Not to say Yuki wasn't capable of the same thing since we just witnessed it in this movie. That's kind of a huge problem I had with this movie because it appears to retcon a lot of what the author took such a long time to establish in the first 3 novels about why Haruhi must just be allowed to run rampant in the eyes of Nagato, Mikuru, and Koizumi. Also it's like the author doesn't truly comprehend the nature of the scientific method and how information and meaning is derived from our surroundings after all....then again should I really expect that from a light novel? This movie to me kind of marks the clear boundary where the Haruhi franchise makes a transition from firmer science fiction concepts to pure fantasy and character wish fulfillment like what can be found in just about any other light novel adaptation. It's more fuel to the fire for my theory that the main reason this story exists the way it does is because the author needed some way to portray the breakout character Yuki Nagato as a moe object for her fans in order to draw extra attention to the next full length storyline in the series....which I swear seems like the main reason this novel is the fan favourite in the series and not the first arguably tighter written one. The way so many people say seeing Yuki blush made the movie perfection for them on it's own seems to indicate this as well. It's still an entertaining franchise, don't get me wrong, but it lost far more than it gained in the end in terms of the stability of it's own canon and appeal to the sci-fi fan in me. Going to be cynical now though.....good luck getting any further with this topic in this thread than I did by the way. This movie is "perfect" after all so there's nothing to discuss is the impression I've gotten....except maybe with folks like Triple_R, Reckoner and Archon_Wing. Quote:
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The other thing I'm going to mention is that for me personally, it wasn't watching alternative Yuki's actions that made Disappearance one of the more entertaining novels in the series for me, but rather Kyon. In fact, as much as I like Haruhi, it is Kyon himself alongside the more scifish aspect of this series that really make tihs series for me. Anyhow, without digressing... Part of the problem with over analyzing something like the Haruhi universe, beyond the idea that time travel itself and such doesn't actually make sense, is that this sort of story is preposterous in the first place. Just like Code Geass, you must embrace the preposterousness of the story to not trip on the details TOO much. I for one would most likely have reacted like you did if I wasn't so entertained by the characters and story. The story isn't perfect for sure. I rate it a 10/10 because my enjoyment level was that of a 10/10. If I was being more objective, it would have got an 8.5-9.0 at best.
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Funny that in a series so overwhelmed by female characters it is the male character that should prove among the most popular for many. Easily the most relatable character for me in the franchise too...easily since he's the only one with a personality complex enough to sustain his character beyond just his design....but I still don't really buy the idea that he liked his situation this whole time. I think he was mostly trying to be altruistic and do what ought to be done for the sake of the group more than anything as opposed to being selfish like we might expect him to be and choosing the easy boring life. If I look at it that way the character still comes out of the movie fairly strong in my book. As for the rest of the characters....well.... Anyway among the parts of he movie I enjoyed most was seeing the internal struggle against his own flawed self laid out in a visual symbolic scene. What surprises me though is that many people seem to think things like this are unique to Kyoto Animation when it comes to anime. I mean if people love that sort of thing like I do then I have tons of shows, directors, writers and manga-ka I can recommend to them that use that sort of visual style to illustrate character development and exposition scenes. Just ask me in a PM and I'll be more than happy to try and hook you up folks. Last edited by Kaioshin Sama; 2010-12-26 at 23:55. |
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As for Kyon wanting to go back, I think that was probably the best choice. After all, changing everyone else's life just so you can be with your cute little girlfriend would be the selfish thing to do.
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The other 3 are mostly just exposition devices. The movie helps much more with Yuki's character as one can infer the reasons behind her actions; it would be impossible to attribute this all to coincidence. Apparently, not having Yuki sprout technobabble was a great way to get interaction along. Who would have known. However, I really wasn't too excited over moe moe Yuki, for whatever reason. The movie does great to improving our knowledge of the characters to some degree, although you might argue it wasn't that much to begin with. In any case, the movie is quite the high point of the series [for me] simply because I was able to take at least one of the characters more seriously.
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I think that the complexity and depth of many of this anime's characters is actually underrated somewhat, and this factors in to my high rating for this Movie. I think that this anime has some very entertaining and intriguing characters that aren't fully appreciated, even by many of this anime's fans.
The strength of an intense 1st person narration and perspective, is that the character in that role will be extensively fleshed out, have his or her inner thoughts revealed at length, and hence made complex through the sheer volume of information we have on him or her. However, the downside of an intense 1st person narration and perspective, through the character of Kyon in this case, is that you only get to experience the other characters through that one character's perspective. We don't know what Yuki Nagato and Itsuki Koizumi might be saying to one another when Kyon's not around to hear them, and such a conversation could be telling about both characters, and reveal more about them. We don't really get to see what Haruhi is like when she's not around Kyon. What's Haruhi's relationship like with her various family members, for example? For all we know, she might show an entirely different side of herself to her father (which she likely has and still has, since she did reference him directly at least once). She may even be very deferential and respectful towards her father. There were a couple scenes in the Melancholy episodes (i.e. the episodes that were a part of that particular arc) that stood out to me, when it came to what they might suggest about Haruhi's character. One was how respectful Haruhi was towards that older gentleman who was running the apartment complex that Asakura had been at. Haruhi even let his somewhat creepy flirting with her slide entirely. By and large, Haruhi appears to be quite respectful of adults, as we also see with how much thanks she shows to the adult members of Koizumi's organization that she interacts with. Secondly, Haruhi at least once gave off a vibe to Kyon that she didn't want him to follow her home (we know this because Kyon himself alluded to it in his narration), and this was after she had opened up to him a fair bit and had clearly grown close to him. Why's that, you think? Is it because her father would not approve of Haruhi's relationship with Kyon and hence Haruhi wants to keep that private from him, as she doesn't have it in her to fight her father openly over that? There's a lot of mysteries and intrigue to this anime, and to its characters. But you have to notice subtleties, and be willing to speculate a bit, in order to pick up on it. In an anime with a constant 1st person perspective through one specific character, you have to be willing to read between the lines in order to get the other characters, and better understand what they may be like. In an odd sort of way, I think that Haruhi Suzumiya is one of the most underrated anime characters out there. In some ways, she's actually a victim of her own popularity, as people tend to focus on the loudest and most commonly referenced aspects or portrayals of her character. The more subtle scenes, like the ones I referenced above, tend to get lost in the midst of memes, and that's a shame, as I think what makes Haruhi a far better character than a generic genki girl or a generic tsundere is precisely those subtle scenes with her in it. In any event, Tanigawa has indeed created a plot contradiction of sorts with Disappearance, and how it relates to the relationship between Haruhi, Nagato, and the DITE. However, I can conceive of ways that Tanigawa can write himself out of that corner. How he can close this particular plot hole, as it were. In fairness, that doesn't excuse the plot hole, but it allows me to give Tanigawa the benefit of the doubt, and wait until his Haruhi narrative is over before I render any final opinions on the work taken as a whole. If, at that point, the Haruhi/Nagato/DITE plot hole, raised by Disappearance, has not been resolved in a way that convinces me, I might even consider shifting my rating for this anime movie down from 10/10 to 9/10. But, for now, I'm giving Tanigawa the benefit of the doubt, because I find the characters he's created to have outstanding chemistry with one another and to generally be a joy to watch, while stirring some serious thoughtfulness that, sadly, few modern anime do for me. Similar to TTGL in some ways, there is some significant philosophical meat to this story to give added depth to its colorful cast. To make that cast seem a bit more real, as it were, and make them characters worth emotionally and intellectually investing in. Edit: This is an aside, but I sometimes think that fans are a bit too quick to take Kyon's side of any disputes between him and other SOS Brigade members, particularly Haruhi. This is understandable, though, because we're getting to hear "his side of the story", and at length, because the story is told from his perspective. That can make it harder to get "the other side of the story" from the perspective of other characters. As an intellectual exercise, I tried to place myself in Haruhi's shoes when it came to the filming of her movie during Sigh. Now, while her treatment of Mikuru in the one (in)famous scene is genuinely deplorable, the lead-up to it really isn't as bad as Kyon made it out to be. In my opinion, Kyon really was making too big a deal out of a lot of things, and hence I can kind of see why Haruhi might not be terribly responsive to his complaints. I'm going to be frank here: Kyon can be a real wet blanket when you're trying to have fun. The guy truly needs to loosen up a bit. There's a happy medium between Haruhi's level of impulsiveness and recklessness prior to Live Alive, and Kyon's degree of cautiousness and critique prior to Disappearance. Haruhi's not entirely in the wrong here, and Kyon's not entirely in the right.
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We really reach a border between something meaningful and pretentious. Something meaningful lets you solve the mystery. Something pretentious just keeps spinning you around in every direction and asks questions it can't answer itself. Not that I think the show is pretentious, but there is certainly that feeling around at times during the second season and the movie. I don't think it's ok to justify every single vaguely explained things all the time with some distant hope of explanation in the future. There is of course the suspension of disbelief. But you really can't expect everyone to tolerate it the same way. Quote:
You could see some of this in alternate Haruhi; once she gets informed about all of this, she's like a young kid in a candy store. I found it pretty amusing. While everyone was drooling over alternate Yuki, I thought alternate Haruhi was looking great. I never saw Haruhi as a tsundere though. She's her own class of character. Quote:
I think the problem with plot holes and such is that I still really have no idea what the point of the story is about. If they'd actually try to investigate the nature of Haruhi and those other 2 "characters". (I use that word lightly, because you could frequently replace Itsuki with a cardboard cutout, unless he has to fight) We've meandered around for 4 years, and while it's a fun ride, I have no idea where we're going. But all and all, none of this really prevents me from enjoying the movie; I do not watch anime with a clipboard on me, ready to check off everything that doesn't work. It makes me laugh, it made me gasp, and it made me feel for those poor fools. Plus Kyon cements himself as an S-class badass by blackmailing a nigh omnipotent entity; which is simply the crowning moment for the series. That and it wasn't moral choosing to stay in a world modeled after his own fetishes. (Yuki, you forgot about those 2 lumps on Mikuru's chest. If you considered that Kyon might have stayed)
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To use a parallel, Haruhi at the start is like a treasure rigged with a bomb : everyone wants the treasure, but everyone is afraid it will blow in their face. So they have to use underhanded and subtle ways to approach the treasure, observe it, understand what makes the bomb tick, and prevent the explosion. Yuki is basically coming, defusing the bomb and leaving the treasure in the middle of the room. You wonder what was the point of walking on your toes around the bomb if it was so easy to handle. Quote:
And I'd like to add : what you say is actually what Kyon DID. He DID change back the world for everyone to be with his pretty girlfriend (his desire to get Haruhi back felt seriously romantic to me, even if he used the "I wanna have fun" excuse), and his relation with "cute Yuki" make it very clear he sees her as a dear friend, but NOT romantically. So I agree with your reasoning, but for the opposite reason Last edited by Akka; 2010-12-27 at 07:53. |
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It kind of reminds me of a good pro wrestler in-ring persona, actually. I remember "Stone Cold" Steve Austin once saying that the personality of his character that you see in the ring does reflect his real personality, but that it's the real him cranked up to the loudest and most outgoing max. Of course, Austin is intentionally doing this to play to the fans, and I think that Haruhi might be intentionally doing something very similar to play to the SOS Brigade and just have fun. Quote:
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Besides, we really don't know how much Haruhi changed the world, or perhaps Haruhi having these powers is the right thing. We really don't know the effect of Yuki using these powers is. What if there are beings evil worse than Haruhi that have similar powers, etc? Overall, it's pretty reckless of Yuki, since surely the DITE would not be that stupid if they could just fix Haruhi in the first place and manipulate her as needed. At least I hope...
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Into that situation now comes Yuki's "accumulation of anomalous data", i.e. her developing emotions and falling in love with Kyon. She says that she "harnesses" or "steals" Haruhi's power, but perhaps it's more of a misappropriation rather than outright theft, and she for once "plays God" and changes the world. She doesn't really know what the outcome will be - for example, the psychotic Asakura Ryoko surely wasn't intended - all she says is that she tried to preserve as much of Kyon's "state" (i.e. his personality and memories) as she could when she created what was supposed to be a Haruhi-free paradise for him where perhaps, just perhaps, he might fall in love with her too. But she also acknowledges his right as a human being to make the choice, and so she provides him with an escape route. Which, in the end, he takes. My own view is that to dismiss this movie simply as a moe-driven excuse to see Yuki do cute things is to do it a great injustice. It touches on many of the "great themes" of humanity, and also contains thinly-veiled parallels to the Judeo-Christian mythos* of the Fall and the Redemption - with Yuki as Eve and Kyon as both the first and second Adam (which of course was no problem for a time traveler). And if the scene near the end with the momentary 有希/雪 homophone mix-up isn't one of the most poignant ever made, I'll go back in time to when I had a hat and eat it *I use this term simply in its technical sense without wishing to denigrate or deny the beliefs themselves |
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I can think of an explanation for the so-called plot hole. What if hacking Haruhi's powers is an extremley dangerous procedure? Maybe Yuki was so frustrated that she was willing to take the risk but the IDTE's main faction is usually very cautious and won't repeat the experiment. They won't risk losing their only chance for evolution.
Anyways I won't think too much about it. Haruhi's powers are so mysterious that standard logic doesn't apply to them.
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Forgive my intrusion, but while I do agree that Disappearance seems to lessen Haruhi's omnipotence somewhat, I don't see a huge continuity error regarding the Data Overmind (or DITE, or whichever term you prefer). Nagato says in her initial technobabble rant that while the Overmind has control over data (including STC data, which appears to make up the universe), it is unable to create data from nothing. Haruhi is the only being that is able to do that.
In Disappearance, Nagato somehow piggybacks off Haruhi's power and uses it to change the world, but that's it. She edits it, if you will. She doesn't create anything. She shuffles a few people around and changes their memories so they don't notice, and she restores Asakura to life, but if we're using computing terminology, that's like moving a few files into a different folder and restoring something from the Recycle Bin. She prevents Haruhi from using her powers. Makes them "read-only", to stretch the metaphor. But there's no actual data creation occurring, like Haruhi creating closed space, or a new world, or making a cat talk, or drawing a 100kb image that contains countless petabytes of alien data. The Overmind is studying Haruhi because it believes her data creation ability to be the key to its own "autoevolution", as it has (according to Nagato) reached an evolutionary dead-end. The reason it, or rather the segment of it that governs Nagato, wants to merely observe Haruhi and not tinker with her or provoke her is because it doesn't want to rock that boat and risk losing its chance. Hence why Nagato is going to be punished by the Overmind for messing with her. I could be wrong, but from my understanding it (from seeing the anime and reading the translated light novels so far), there's nothing you could 100% call a continuity error. Of course, since all of the SOS Brigade members' stories contradicts everybody elses, and all three of them are potentially lying, there's no way to really say for sure. This kind of thing really doesn't bother me. The series is a light sci-fi slice-of-life drama with high production values and a great cast, and there aren't enough series out there that try that particular cocktail, and certainly none that do it so well. I mean, I'm a sucker for time travel stories, and if I wanted to complain I could talk about the inconsistency in time travel theory within the series, but as it doesn't harm my enjoyment of it one bit, why would I? And as Kyon even points out that inconsistency himself, I can only assume that Tanigawa is aware of it and has an answer for it at the ready. As another poster said, I don't watch anime (or engage in any other hobby) with a notebook, marking it like a test paper. Not that everything is perfect, or should be said to be such, but if you can't enjoy your hobbies and look for the best in them, then what's the point in having them in the first place? Again, my apologies for butting in!
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Kyon's not a wet blanket at all; if anything, he took way too long to do anything about what was clearly a problem. There's not an ounce of Mikuru that wanted anything to do with the movie (especially when it came to being center stage in skimpy outfits), and that didn't bother Haruhi one bit. Haruhi fans don't like the Sigh arc because it shows Haruhi at her worst. Sure, everyone understood she was eccentric, but probably no one thought it would come to the point of defiantly proclaiming that another human being was her toy and acting accordingly. Quote:
Here's a pertinent example. When I finally got the Disappearance Blu-ray, I wanted to call everyone over to watch it. I ended up calling two people. You know why? Because the majority of my friends don't care at all about anime. Now imagine if I didn't have even those two. Wouldn't it make sense for me to be a little gloomy? And, if I did find someone (or four people!) who shared my interest, wouldn't I cheer up dramatically? I guess my point here is that no, Haruhi is not ordinary, but yeah, of course it makes sense that the SOS Brigade would change her. She likes being bossy, and then she finds four yes-men on pretty much the same day. Of course she's suddenly a different person! That's not development, or rather, it would be like calling it development when a hungry person cheered up after being offered a sandwich. Quote:
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A look back at the non-titular episodes from the first season generated a similar reaction in me, and looking into the future novels left me with the thought, "Is this it? Is this really it?" I'm used to animes with tight storylines, definitive progression, and satisfying conclusions. This felt (and still kind of feels) like a breath of fresh air compared to those. Shame that fresh air has no oxygen in it.
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I stand by my position: Kyon can be a bit of a wet blanket at times. Heck, Kyon himself basically admits that with how annoyed he was with Taniguchi trash-talking Haruhi's movie. Kyon was annoyed by what Taniguchi was saying there because it was like a good, hard look in the mirror for Kyon, and Kyon didn't entirely like what he saw there. The fact that Kyon had been acting like Taniguchi was in that one scene, is what made Kyon realize that he had been a bit too harsh on Haruhi, and that played a role in him choosing to be mostly supportive of the movie the rest of the way. Quote:
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Not when looking for Asakura, no. She was in a bad mood when she wasn't allowed to wear the bunny suit while passing out SOS Brigade flyers to fellow classmates.
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But, frankly, Kyon was complaining too much about every little choice that Haruhi made. There was a discouraging mood and tone to him that was not unlike Taniguchi's when Taniguchi trash-talked Haruhi's film. When Kyon heard Taniguchi say that, it clicked for him that he himself had been acting too much like how Taniguchi was acting in that one moment. Instead of just being negative about almost everything that Haruhi did with her movie, he probably should have been more generally supportive of Haruhi's core idea (showing school spirit by wanting to make a student film for a school cultural festival), and tried to steer it in a certain direction with some positive reinforcement to go along with the more serious and valid complaints. The problem with complaining about every little detail that isn't exactly the way you'd like it is that people can start tuning you out when you get to the more important flaws or problems. If Kyon had shown more positive interest in the Mikuru movie, and if he had said even just once or twice "You know, that's a good creative idea there, Haruhi. I think that'll work well in the movie", it might have made Haruhi try to do more of what Kyon was complimenting (consider how quickly she changes her hairstyle for him ), and less of the truly egregious stuff. It also probably would have made Haruhi take Kyon's complaints more seriously, as they wouldn't come off as just "Kyon being Kyon" to her. Honestly, I can easily imagine Haruhi thinking 'Sigh. Here he goes yet again. Why is he so incredibly picky?! I'm trying to have fun making a good student film here, and he just keeps complaining over everything' when Kyon started to object to the Koizumi/Mikuru love scene. Quote:
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