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Old 2010-12-31, 01:45   Link #20761
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Spoiler for WHYY?!:

Spoiler for HER TOO.:

Spoiler for HERE'S MOAR:
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Old 2010-12-31, 01:46   Link #20762
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Old 2010-12-31, 01:46   Link #20763
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Old 2010-12-31, 01:48   Link #20764
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Care to share your reasoning why?
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Old 2010-12-31, 01:50   Link #20765
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Care to share your reasoning why?
Many faked Vistas in his time.
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Old 2010-12-31, 01:55   Link #20766
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Old 2010-12-31, 01:57   Link #20767
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I suppose it's not much of a surprise for everyone to be appearing in Ep8... it's the "grand finale" of Umineko... It'd make sense for it to involve everyone.
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Old 2010-12-31, 01:59   Link #20768
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What's being said and why are they saying it?

Are they fighting each other or working together against someone else?

WHAT'S GOING ON?!
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Old 2010-12-31, 01:59   Link #20769
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that, and we were technically never told that Erika wasn't on the island.

Smooth move, Ryukishi. Guess Shkanon is inadvertently proved.
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Old 2010-12-31, 02:00   Link #20770
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Don't be too sure. I still want to believe he's being earnest about the red; i.e. no tricks like "Shannon is dead but Beatrice isn't lol!" Short of that, there are many ways the rest of what you said can be true and still be fair. I'm going to take Beatrice at her word on the red being intended to help rather than hinder (and red evasion goes directly against that premise).

If you go by what the Red Truth seems to say (as opposed to what it actually does), you have to assume Kanon and Kinzo came back to life and Eva-Beatrice actually exists and killed Nanjo in Ep3. Virgilia even warned Battler about listening carefully to it in EP3.

I admit the possibility of a red herring, but multiple personalities were hinted at. Most obviously with Eva-Beatrice, but Battler also raised the possibility in EP3 that Jessica had one that killed Nanjo. (It was refuted with the Red Truth, not by denying DID, but by saying Jessica's body did nothing.) In EP1, IIRC Battler wondered how you could have more people than humans on the island. If you go by the theory that the meta-world is in Ange's subconscious, a solution involving multiple personalities would help meta-Battler realize he was one himself.


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I do agree on this point as well: The idea that Yasu is somehow mentally ill in some form is laughable. People with debilitating mental conditions cannot do the things she does, let alone the things she's suspected of doing. Her reaction to adverse events is also very different from that of a mentally ill individual; she becomes despondent and depressed, and that honestly is about it and is a perfectly rational response for an entirely sane person to have in response to setbacks.
Actually, that sounds more like depression. If mental illness could be summed up with one set of symptoms, there'd be no need for the DSM-IV. Schizophrenics and depressives probably couldn't do these things, but psychopaths like the BTK killer got away with their crimes for decades while living a normal life. DID can actually be thought of like a coping mechanism: if one personality can't respond to adverse events, a personality that can is created.
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Old 2010-12-31, 02:00   Link #20771
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I'm not sure we should be counting on anything right now. Ange on the island, Beatrice walkin' around, Kinzo chillin', Erika, God only knows what else.

First things have to make some actual sense.
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Old 2010-12-31, 02:01   Link #20772
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Damn right.
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Old 2010-12-31, 02:01   Link #20773
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Could it be my dream of the ultimate logic battle between Bern and Battler with battler summoning every Magical character introduced so far against bern be coming true?? GOD I HOPE SOO!!
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Watch absolutely everything be fucking fake.
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Old 2010-12-31, 02:04   Link #20775
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EP8 first part as a complete mind-fxxk by Bern?
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Old 2010-12-31, 02:07   Link #20776
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So far, it seems the game has been hosted by BATTLER, not by Bern.
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Watch absolutely everything be fucking fake.
If all this is fake someone had to work one or two years on this. It's like that Majora's mask ghost story where the guy prepared everything to be released a long time before hand. He'd have to prepare all this just for when episode 8 comes out. That's just really epic if true.
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So far, it seems the game has been hosted by BATTLER, not by Bern.
But will Battler prepare a story where his family is the culprit and murdered everyone.
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But will Battler prepare a story where his family is the culprit and murdered everyone.
It's a game between him and Ange, and he's playing the role of the Beato from the first four games.
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If all this is fake someone had to work one or two years on this. It's like that Majora's mask ghost story where the guy prepared everything to be released a long time before hand. He'd have to prepare all this just for when episode 8 comes out. That's just really epic if true.
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It's a game between him and Ange, and he's playing the role of the Beato from the first four games.
BATTLER only said it was a game FOR Ange. It doesn't necessarily mean she's playing.
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