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Old 2011-01-02, 03:03   Link #101
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I'd ask Ryu, but I doubt I'd get an answer. :< All I know is George hate crosses all realities.
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Old 2011-01-02, 03:39   Link #102
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I think most people was aware we were not getting complete answers but the problem is from the sound of it we are not getting answers to any of the major points ..... maybe we are overreacting and I'll wait until I read episode 8 for giving my opinion.... but for example I don't see how a solution which doesn't give any hint how the outcome could have been avoided if Battler came one year earlier or later could be satisfying... Yes I know we can invoke butterfly effect and just leave it at the slightlest of changes can result in the largest of differences but that does not make for a compelling story
I read Japanese. There are answers to all the questions if you're willing to figure it out for yourself.
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Old 2011-01-02, 03:58   Link #103
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I wonder, if the content of Eva's diary is completely revealed?


And I think, really the goats are a good mockey of us, the readers.
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Old 2011-01-02, 04:50   Link #104
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First summaries for today. This details the metareunion of almost all the characters up to... well... read on.

Spoiler for Summaries.:


Yes indeed my friends.

The Final Battle of Rokkenjima Begins.

If I have time I'll start on it later today. Blog is also updated.
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Old 2011-01-02, 05:18   Link #105
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Battler wants to be friends with Bern? No, fuck her. You tell the bitch to get out.
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Old 2011-01-02, 05:22   Link #106
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Battler wants to be friends with Bern? No, fuck her. You tell the bitch to get out.
He could learn a thing or two from Nanoha. That's how you make friends.
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Old 2011-01-02, 05:38   Link #107
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Bern did just sort of laugh it off with her troll face so, you know, Bern.
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Old 2011-01-02, 05:42   Link #108
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No, seriously, I can't even believe that shit.

"So I kidnapped your sister."
"Cool let's be friends."

....no wait it makes sense now.
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Old 2011-01-02, 05:47   Link #109
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No, seriously, I can't even believe that shit.

"So I kidnapped your sister."
"Cool let's be friends."

....no wait it makes sense now.
Yeah. Ryukishi must be a Nanoha fan.

I'm more concerned about why no one finds it odd that Lion is pinching asses.
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Old 2011-01-02, 06:42   Link #110
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You know, one thing that I really didn't like is how the entire series was setting itself up perfectly for a Burning Court ending and Ryuukishi decided to go Brazil/Fight Club on us.
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Old 2011-01-02, 07:25   Link #111
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For anybody who's interested, The Burning Court is another mystery novel by John Dickson Carr.
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Old 2011-01-02, 07:37   Link #112
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The Battle of Rokkenjima: First Murder Investigation

The murders have begun. This summarizes the first group of murders and investigations. I have included red and purple text.

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Spoiler for Purple Text:


Spoiler for Red Text:


Blog has been updated. I decided to start separate the summaries so that each page isn't stupidly long. I also made a separate page for the colored text for quick references.

Also due to the importance of the colored text, tell me if I made mistakes so I can fix them.

Edit - Yeah Klash is right. Corpse =/= body and I misread the noun Bern used. Corrected.

Second and Third Murder Investigation

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Spoiler for Purple Text:


Spoiler for Blue Text:

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Old 2011-01-02, 07:48   Link #113
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Various corrections:
-Kumasawa's purple clearly indicates "blood stained -bodies-". She never mentioned corpses by any means, which will be even notified by Battler and Beato.

-Bern's red state that no one can use the master key except their respective owner. Which means that for instance, no one can use Gohda's key except Gohda himself. She definitely didn't include herself in the lot.

Going to have a read of the rest.
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Old 2011-01-02, 10:26   Link #114
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Fourth Murder Investigation

Spoiler for Summaries:


Spoiler for Purple Text:


Spoiler for Red Text:


Fifth and Sixth Murder Investigation

Spoiler for Summary:


Spoiler for Purple Text:


Seventh Murder Investigation

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Spoiler for Purple Text:

Blog updated.

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Old 2011-01-02, 11:17   Link #115
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Eighth Murder Investigation

Spoiler for Summary:


Spoiler for Purple Text:


The murders and Bern's story ends here. The rest of the game will be the final investigation towards a solution. Classes start tomorrow (actually later since it's past midnight) so summaries will come slower.

Time for bed!
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Old 2011-01-02, 14:39   Link #116
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6 October 1986, Battler and Beato escaped from Rokkenjima by motorboat.
Though many people were killed by accident or murder, Battler didn't seem sad.
And he was found on the road, not shore.
That's strange.
I can't stop considering him as the culprit.

By the way, what happened in the escape scene of the real world ?

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Old 2011-01-02, 16:22   Link #117
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Battler being the culprit doesn't make the slightest bit of sense and requires ignoring everything the series has ever told us about anything.
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Old 2011-01-02, 16:24   Link #118
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Battler being the culprit doesn't make the slightest bit of sense and requires ignoring everything the series has ever told us about anything.
Spoiler for EP8:
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Old 2011-01-02, 16:37   Link #119
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That was certainly not even mentioned in Episode 8. I have no idea where this spoiler is from, but unless I really missed a giant flag, there wasn't even the slightest indication of this.

And no, Bern's game has really nothing to do with the rest of the games, especially considering the red and purple used in there (and if people do consider as real, well you better define me the "unwillingly" which is unlikely considering his behavior in this version).
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Old 2011-01-02, 16:43   Link #120
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I don't know if I'm the only one that feels this way but I gotta say, even though the mystery puzzles were originally the things that I found most alluring about Umineko, I feel much worse about the way Battler ended up than about the actual solutions and answers. More than anything it pains me to find out that he was an accomplice in his parents' plot regardless of whether or not he was willing or unwilling. The fact that he participated in it strikes me as weak and out of character from the stoic and charming character I've come to love over the course of reading the stories.
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