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View Poll Results: Madoka Magica - Episode 4 Rating
Perfect 10 48 36.64%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 46 35.11%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 27 20.61%
7 out of 10 : Good 6 4.58%
6 out of 10 : Average 2 1.53%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 1 0.76%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 1 0.76%
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Old 2011-01-27, 19:58   Link #41
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Proto makes his random prediction of the year: Sayaka will manage to remain alive till the end. Either that or she will get a looking back segment during her death. But I prefer the first one since the show is becoming a tad too predictable.
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Old 2011-01-27, 20:01   Link #42
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My biggest complaint here is that neither girl asked if a wish could bring back the dead. It would seem to be an obvious thing to ask. Granted, they are both depressed, but it has to come up sooner or later. By not addressing it, it becomes a big ole elephant in the room, leaving them an out later to bring back Mami.

The big thing is, we don't know what limits there are on the wish, if any. We clearly know that it can save someone who is dying... but what if you could wish to end the system? Wish for all witches to go back to normal, and/or for witches to never be created nor exist within their world ever again? Wish that there was never a need for someone to become a magical girl?

To me, that's the biggest beef with this series, and it's what throws all this speculation into near pointlessness. As opposed to a series like Mai HiME, the idea that everyone can come back is right there in our faces.
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Old 2011-01-27, 20:12   Link #43
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Ending prognosis:

Spoiler:


Details tomorrow.
That's what I also think. I just did what you said and I can see your point, some of the lyrics make sense for that sort of ending.

Dunno if I should spoiler this but I was waiting for Sayaka to finally go ahead and do it. It was all set up with her going to the hospital, I've been waiting ever since the first scene that guy appeared for her to do it.
His reaction really didn't look like one of happiness. I was thinking Sayaka had ruined the guys life in the way that she just cured something incurable, he'll be tested and tested by doctors to find out the reason why it happened. That's the first thing I thought, maybe it won't go that way.
We've seen Mami go in a fight against a witch, I think Sayaka will go in a fight with the other MG that showed up just to show the two sides of the coin; you fight one or the other.
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Old 2011-01-27, 20:46   Link #44
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Can't believe i'm actually agreeing with the majority this time, especially Sir Mentar.
Btw folks, if you wanna speculah, i think everyone will be better served if the speculah are made in speculah thread.

OK, speculah time.
Spoiler for here be da speculah!:


At this point, i believe that Homura is in Chikane's shoes. Gotta keep your loved one out of the loop, baby.
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Old 2011-01-27, 20:48   Link #45
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I really like Sayaka for some reason and hope she does not die. While a Mai HiME ending would really piss me off I'd start prying for one if they do off her.
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Old 2011-01-27, 21:07   Link #46
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Hrm, while Sayaka may indeed go witchy, there's no reason Sakura doesn't kill(defeat?) her as declared while she's (still) a magical girl. Or Sayaka kills Sakura in self-defense and thus is lead to the brink of sanity.

Regardless, they're putting up death flags for Sayaka all over.
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Old 2011-01-27, 21:17   Link #47
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I'm amused at the fact that the episode after we are shown firmly how dangerous the magical girl life is, the only reason Madoka is alive is because Sayaka becomes a magical girl.

Also, Kyubey has freakish timing.
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Old 2011-01-27, 21:25   Link #48
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Can dead MG be brought back to life? The big question begging for an answer after episode 3 is no more a question. Yes or no, does it make any difference? MGs are destined to fight till death. A wish to bring Mami back means killing Mami again together with the one made the wish. I think it's smart to ignore the BunnyCat but Sayaka doesn't. I am with those make sad forecast on Sayaka - her doom is close.
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Old 2011-01-27, 21:31   Link #49
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I still stick to my Kyubey is evil belief and Sayaka seems like she made a rushed decision. I expect her wish to backfire on her big time. I am still in awe that Madoka hasn't become a magical girl yet.

I am predicting for next ep Sayaka x Kyoko fight then Homura saves Sayaka and Madoka still doesnt transform.

Also i miss my gun weilding Mami I liked watching her more than Sayaka's sword attacks.
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Old 2011-01-27, 22:00   Link #50
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Just caught the ep.

Pity that Mami didn't come back...

A nice epsidoe that leads into the rest of the series. I'm a bit surprised that Madoka didn't become a magical girl this episode. Sayaka's decision doesn't surprise me.

As for Kyuubeh, I'm still not too sold on the evil idea. He did show up pretty conveniently near Sayaka, but then judging from what she said before, he could have teleported or something. madoka's thing is a bit more complicated. Kyuubeh could have been setting things up but it could have been coincidence. Still can't tell.

And again, more evidence that Homura is a time traveler. Not just her reaction with Madoka but the way she reacted when she saw Sayaka, as if she couldn't believe her eyes.

New magical girl seems...practical. Is it that once a magical girl becomes unable to be a magical girl, their wish is revoked?

One more thing, Sayaka was being pretty insensitive with Kamijou, wasn't she?
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Old 2011-01-27, 22:10   Link #51
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Madoka probably won't being a Magical Girl until sometime near the end probably., We'll see everyone else in action first.
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Old 2011-01-27, 22:17   Link #52
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This episode shows why sometimes ignorance is a bliss. Madoka wouldn't be cursing herself for her powerlessness, if she didn't know of all this MG stuff.
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Old 2011-01-27, 22:32   Link #53
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I would be to disagree. In the words of Isaac Asimov.

Though it is true that sometimes knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we will be able to solve them.
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Old 2011-01-27, 22:33   Link #54
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It's clear to me that Madoka lost her memory of Homura. This is the only thing I am accepting as fact right now.

what's not clear is why

presumably it is because of a wish
if you use this angle you must then ask, what kind of wish would cause this and why?
then you can further break it down. Who made that wish and when was this wish made
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Old 2011-01-27, 22:35   Link #55
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Personally I think the show is being too obvious in its use of 'subtle' hints. Anyone with more than 1 year of experience with anime can pick them up without trouble. I really hope the show has several layers of trolling story twists or this show will go down as the most not so obvious obvious storyline in history.
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Old 2011-01-27, 22:41   Link #56
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Well had a feeling the title of the episode was somewhat of a trick. Wasn't about Mami at all and instead about Sayaka giving in to something she'd been thinking about over and over again. Of course if she hadn't done it then Madoka probably would have bought it. Homura had decent timing, but easily could have made it far too late. Really considering there seems to be something with her and Madoka you'd think Homura would be watching her like a hawk.

Madoka really needs to either make a wish or be certain to stay out of things going forward. Considering it was her friend hard for her to ignore it, but has to be able to step back depending on the situation.

I hadn't thought about it, but not that surprising what happened at the end. You figure that some experienced Magical Girls would want to take out rookie competition. Takes a twisted kind of person, but possible. That way you have a larger area to hunt in and should be able to find witches easier.

Yet I'm not sure why a new girl was even called in. I mean Homura was already in the area so shouldn't responsibility have fallen onto her when Mami died?

Anyways still waiting to see what Madoka is going to do. It'll depend on what happens to Sayaka who I'm really hoping can avoid getting killed. Curious about a wish to revive the dead with and so nothing to do but wait.
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I figured that neither of them would use their wish to bring Mami back. In Madoka's case I knew that she wouldn't be so impulsive, even if she did care for Mami as much as she did. She'd basically have to offer her own life, and it's not like Mami's resurrection is 100% guaranteed to go well if she did wish for that. It's normal that Madoka wouldn't want to be a magical girl after seeing what happened last episode, I don't really understand why everyone thought that her becoming a magical girl in order to resurrect her friend (who she didn't even know for that long) was a likely outcome.

Sayaka on the other hand, everyone was right about her. I could also see her becoming a magical girl relatively soon, and definitely sooner than Madoka. She's much more impulsive than Madoka is and the introduction of Kyosuke kind of hinted at Sayaka becoming a magical girl soon because he gave her something to wish for. I don't understand why Sayaka acted so impulsively after what happened the day before but I can't say I'm surprised. I'm sure she'll come to regret it, I just wonder how soon that will be.
After Mami's death I got the feeling that Madoka's decision to become a magical girl would be the climax of the series and would happen much later. Until then I do wonder how Sayaka's story will unfold, especially with the introduction of Kyoko.

I also wonder how many more times Madoka will be dragged back into this mess. She already found herself in a helpless situation this episode, and also saw that her friends and family could be future targets. If Sayaka hadn't made that wish then Homura probably would've saved her (since she showed up right after Sayaka saved Madoka) but would that have been too late? It already seemed as if Sayaka was right on time, and if Madoka keeps getting pulled into the barriers then she's going to have to rely on Sayaka/Homura for a bit... and if Kyoko is as sneaky as I think she is, it's possible that Madoka may have more misfortune coming her way. If Kyoko really wants to get rid of Sayaka, then using her best friend is one way to bait her into a battle/trap.
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Old 2011-01-27, 23:03   Link #58
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Yet I'm not sure why a new girl was even called in. I mean Homura was already in the area so shouldn't responsibility have fallen onto her when Mami died?
I was under the impression that Homura is a rogue MG and she's operating within Kyubey's domain. It's only logical for Kyubey to look for a suitable MG replacement when his/her two would-be recruits are taking a long time to make a contract.

Kyoko just happened to show up when Sayaka already made her wish.
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Sayaka on the other hand, everyone was right about her. I could also see her becoming a magical girl relatively soon, and definitely sooner than Madoka. She's much more impulsive than Madoka is and the introduction of Kyosuke kind of hinted at Sayaka becoming a magical girl soon because he gave her something to wish for. I don't understand why Sayaka acted so impulsively after what happened the day before but I can't say I'm surprised. I'm sure she'll come to regret it, I just wonder how soon that will be.
After Mami's death I got the feeling that Madoka's decision to become a magical girl would be the climax of the series and would happen much later. Until then I do wonder how Sayaka's story will unfold, especially with the introduction of Kyoko.
Sayaka will probably already be regreting it in the next episode, as the episode title is "There's No Way I'd Regret It".
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Sayaka will probably already be regreting it in the next episode, as the episode title is "There's No Way I'd Regret It".
Yeah I can see that happening. ^^;
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