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Old 2011-01-29, 17:57   Link #1261
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Or maybe she ways never in that stage to begin with maybe she ways always selfish and power hungry even before becoming an MG. Which brings up a very scary question if just anyone with potential can become a MG whats stopping the contractors form picking the worst girls in the world (personality wise) to have almost unlimited power.
From what I've seen, it doesn't seem to be very easy to convince girls to become magical girls, especially not if they get to know that the'll put their life on the line by doing it. So the contractors will probably take any girl who says she wants to become one, even if they already have a messed-up personality in the first place (as was probably the case with Kyouko).

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Consider this: when asked what she will do about Sayaka, most subs translate it as "i'm going to beat her down"; but this hardly do justice to her tone of speech. she uses "kutabatte" for "beating someone", thus that line should really be translated "i'm so going to make her SO FUCKING DEAD". "kutabare" is a really vulgar word, underaged (well, anyone) should never say it
Yes, it's very vulgar indeed. Here's what the www-jdic says about it:
くたばれ (exp) (X) (vulg) (ktb) fuck you!; shove it!; go to hell!; drop dead!

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I'm still getting a big empty feeling as to why MG's are so against each other, though. I don't believe the show has explained it good enough. Clearly, there is safety in numbers, and Mami was very willing to work with Madoka. Humankind dealt with this subject in our evolution. We're social and group creatures by nature, because the groups with the "banding together" instinct prospered more than the lone wolf types.

Five girls using just a little of their power to each help take down a witch, would ensure that each of them holds onto their magic powers 5 times as long. Given a statistical drop rate on Grief Seeds, it wouldn't seem to be too hard to store them and ration them out as needed so there is enough to go around. One MG can take down a witch with only a little trouble, apparently, so three or more MG's should make quick work of it. It shouldn't end up much different from an MMO guild that farms a boss over and over, heh.

Obviously, there will be power hungry MG's that don't want to share, but statistically speaking, there should be some people who are willing to team up.
Yes, that's all very true - working together, they would be much more effective. Mami did actually offer Homura to work together, but Homura declined
The only reason why she would decline, even though it would make bringing witches down much easier, is that she is one of those power hungry magical girls who don't want to share.
Kyouko, who wants to attack Sayaka, doesn't seem to be any better there.
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Old 2011-01-29, 17:58   Link #1262
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Obviously, there will be power hungry MG's that don't want to share, but statistically speaking, there should be some people who are willing to team up.
Perhaps the number of girls willing to work together are few and fare between for example in this story the number of MGs in the general area of the city seems very slim so one would have to assume that not only is a MG running into another MG is rare but trying to get them to work with each other might me even more rare.
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Old 2011-01-30, 05:13   Link #1263
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There will be some (strange) collaboration between Puella Magi Madoka Magica and an online RPG game called Tartarus

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2011.1.27 オンラインRPG「タルタロス」とのタイアップ決定

2011年1月27日で正式サービス開始より1周年を迎えた
大人気オンラインRPG「タルタロス」とのタイアップが決定しました!

タルタロスの1周年特設サイトにてタイアップの発表を行っております。

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お知らせいたします。お楽しみに!

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http://ta-online.jp/news/campaign/20...ary/animation/

I wonder what is this about.
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Old 2011-01-30, 06:32   Link #1264
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With Kyoko's color scheme, we have the 5 basic sentai series colors covered! Pink, black, red, yellow, and blue!
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Old 2011-01-30, 06:48   Link #1265
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Consider this: when asked what she will do about Sayaka, most subs translate it as "i'm going to beat her down"; but this hardly do justice to her tone of speech. she uses "kutabatte" for "beating someone", thus that line should really be translated "i'm so going to make her SO FUCKING DEAD". "kutabare" is a really vulgar word, underaged (well, anyone) should never say it
The word she uses is 'buttsubusu', not 'kutabare'. "Kutabaru" means "Die", you can't say you're going to kutabaru someone any more than you can say "I'm going to die you!" in English.

More study may be advisable before trying to correct people.
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Old 2011-01-30, 08:01   Link #1266
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I'm still getting a big empty feeling as to why MG's are so against each other, though. I don't believe the show has explained it good enough.
Keep in mind that Homura stated that she's seen many magical girls die before. This suggests that perhaps she's worked with other magical girls in the past before, but after witnessing so many of them die in spite of their team-up efforts, Homura now feels like it would be best if she operated alone.

I also wouldn't read too much into the personality of this latest magical girl. For all we know, a magical girl like her could be the exception, not the rule. For all we know, most could be like Mami: Wanting magical girl allies and friends.
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Old 2011-01-30, 08:12   Link #1267
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Keep in mind that Homura stated that she's seen many magical girls die before. This suggests that perhaps she's worked with other magical girls in the past before, but after witnessing so many of them die in spite of their team-up efforts, Homura now feels like it would be best if she operated alone.

I also wouldn't read too much into the personality of this latest magical girl. For all we know, a magical girl like her could be the exception, not the rule. For all we know, most could be like Mami: Wanting magical girl allies and friends.
If not every witches give a grief seed, then having too many magical girl in any one area could mean they get more and more darkness- whether that just make them weaker or turn them into witches too is unknown.
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Old 2011-01-30, 09:03   Link #1268
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Kyoko used to occupy one area before right? what will happen to that place then? can't they just do a swap or something? XD
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Old 2011-01-30, 09:13   Link #1269
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As I understood it, Kyouko only expanded her territory but I'm not sure now. Come to think of it, Kyouko seems like she was related to Mami. She wasn't near the scene so I wonder how she got the info that she died. Depending on how, it could mean that Madoka, Sayaka and Homura weren't the only ones at all that know that Mami died. Though to most it would only be "just another one that bit the grass" I guess.
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Old 2011-01-30, 09:25   Link #1270
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With Kyoko's color scheme, we have the 5 basic sentai series colors covered! Pink, black, red, yellow, and blue!
XDDD very good observation.. XDDD
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Old 2011-01-30, 09:29   Link #1271
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If not every witches give a grief seed, then having too many magical girl in any one area could mean they get more and more darkness- whether that just make them weaker or turn them into witches too is unknown.
Yeah its like a bunch of drug addicts in a room being asked to play poker. The winner gets 1 shot. The frequency of the poker game is irregular. The poker players could work together but who would get the shot?

Would those good at poker be willing to give the shot to others when the game is so irregular?

Keeping in mind they are all drug addicts
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Old 2011-01-30, 12:01   Link #1272
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Yeah its like a bunch of drug addicts in a room being asked to play poker. The winner gets 1 shot. The frequency of the poker game is irregular. The poker players could work together but who would get the shot?

Would those good at poker be willing to give the shot to others when the game is so irregular?

Keeping in mind they are all drug addicts
I wouldn't quite say that. Grief seeds can have more than one use, and thus you can share. Also, if it takes X amount of magic power to kill a witch, then 5 MG's working together can each use X/5 the power needed. And the seed it drops has 2X magic power, which is more than enough to keep them running, especially if they store them up, and dole them out to the MG's whose magical devices are beginning to get too dark. Yes, not every witch drops a seed, but since a seed can have more than one charge, then statistically speaking, there would be enough charges to go around.

Is Kyube deliberately recruiting MG's who are bad at math?

At the least, working together ensures that there is an MG who is available at all times to deal with a witch, and then collect the seed for the good of the group.

Edit: And are they really addicts? Sure, some might be addicted to the power... but what about an MG that decides not to kill witches. She takes a look at her device, sees it is getting dark, and then shrugs and decides not to do it anymore. What happens then? Possibly, their wish might get revoked, but depending on the wish, it might not be that bad. say if Kamijou dumps Sayaka, she could decide, "Fine, you weren't worth the wish in the first place. I'm quitting being a witch; good luck with your hand!"
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Old 2011-01-30, 21:48   Link #1273
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The word she uses is 'buttsubusu', not 'kutabare'. "Kutabaru" means "Die", you can't say you're going to kutabaru someone any more than you can say "I'm going to die you!" in English.
Yeah, people seem to be getting confused. In episode 4, Kyoko says "Kutabatta" in regards to Mami's fate. When she says how she's going to deal with Sayaka she says "Butsubusu".

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If not every witches give a grief seed, then having too many magical girl in any one area could mean they get more and more darkness- whether that just make them weaker or turn them into witches too is unknown.
I'm wondering if when Mami stated this she meant literally "there is a chance they won't drop a seed." Or if this line was referring to the fact that familiar's don't drop seeds. In other words, you might not know until after you defeated it whether or not it was a witch or a familiar until you see a Grief seed, or not.
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Old 2011-01-31, 05:08   Link #1274
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It seems that Shinbo's reputation wasn't that bad after all. Placing second in favourite director ranking by dengeki readers, who are much interested on media-mix than main-streams like Studio Ghibli etc.
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Old 2011-01-31, 18:08   Link #1275
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There will be some (strange) collaboration between Puella Magi Madoka Magica and an online RPG game called Tartarus

http://www.madoka-magica.com/news/
http://ta-online.jp/news/campaign/20...ary/animation/

I wonder what is this about.
Interesting... looking on that game page, they even have a cute twintail there, named Nagi
http://ta-online.jp/news/campaign/20...rsary/history/
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Old 2011-02-02, 14:49   Link #1276
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Old 2011-02-02, 17:54   Link #1277
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I asked before, but got no answer, what's the name of the witch in ep4?
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Old 2011-02-02, 18:10   Link #1278
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I asked before, but got no answer, what's the name of the witch in ep4?
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Old 2011-02-02, 18:48   Link #1279
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I'm wondering if when Mami stated this she meant literally "there is a chance they won't drop a seed." Or if this line was referring to the fact that familiar's don't drop seeds. In other words, you might not know until after you defeated it whether or not it was a witch or a familiar until you see a Grief seed, or not.
Agreed 100% on this point!
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Old 2011-02-02, 20:06   Link #1280
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I just started this series recently, and I already love how it messes with your mind .

Unfortunately, I got into the series after learning about the huge spoiler in Episode 3, and so I was pre-warned about the darkness of the show. But more than that, I found Kyuube massively creepy throughout all the episodes--the fact that he has an eternal grin painted on his face just makes him even creepier .

I hope the production crew manage to keep toeing the line between classic Magical Girl fare and this deconstruction eeriness, it's very effective in making this show something very different from the usual.
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