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Old 2011-02-05, 23:02   Link #61
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Last page James quoted a novel reader, which went something along the lines of "Apparently the IS could move faster than ICBMs, pilot can see everything in slow motion(similar to vanquish), they not affected by G-force so no fear of black-out/red-out and a 100% optical camouflage system. So when IS was first unveiled A single IS was able to stop a war by shooting down 2437 missiles, 207 fighter jets , disable/immobilize 5 aircraft carriers and all their naval escorts and vaporized 8 spy satellites that was tracking its movement."
Bullshit.

So we have probably like one paragraph saying "zomg they're soooo powerful" and then probably like 50 chapters, a Manga, and an Anime showing that they just act like slightly smaller gundams. Of course people will endlessly parrot that one passing example and try to ignore the vast mountains of counter evidence insisting that no they really ARE that powerful they just never do anything LIKE this on screen because... errr... OMFG SHUT UP THEY'RE SO POWERFUL!

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Don't you just love it when authors start throwing out numbers?
No, becasue most authors are dolts that don't bother to check any of the numbers they're spewing. So we get shit like Halo MAC guns with the firepower of a dino killer asteroid, accelerator controlling enough energy to kill all life on earth, and exo-suits that apparently fly at mach 25 but fight in melee with glowly beam swords.
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Old 2011-02-06, 00:42   Link #62
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Bullshit.
Tk... You and I don't get along on principle, but for pete's sake, take one five or take your beef where it belongs. In fact, if you want to "discuss" numbers, go over to the technology section or go straight to the head honchos in the light novel discussion thread. I imagine they'd just love to entertain your skepticism.

Seriously. It's Japan, and without suspension of disbelief, I believe, you might suffer a spontaneous cranial aneurysm.
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Old 2011-02-06, 03:27   Link #63
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Tk... You and I don't get along on principle, but for pete's sake, take one five or take your beef where it belongs. In fact, if you want to "discuss" numbers, go over to the technology section or go straight to the head honchos in the light novel discussion thread. I imagine they'd just love to entertain your skepticism.
Says the guy that brought it up here to begin with, beside which it's relevant in character creation to know the overall power level, and that stuff is compete and utter nonsense.

A IS can't even evade two dinky beer can missiles in ep 2 and you expect me to buy that another unit shot down 2,000 of them? Please that stuff is complete crap contradicted by everything we see in the acutal series. The IS are just mini-mecha and behave just like any other anime mecha that stuff cited is just wank that's not even vaguely supported by what we see. So unless you want to argue that for some asinine reason all IS we see in combat are operating at like 1% of there "real" capabilities I'm going to merrily disregard such hyperbolic bullshit.

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Seriously. It's Japan, and without suspension of disbelief, I believe, you might suffer a spontaneous cranial aneurysm.
I suspend my disbelief by accepting that flying anti-gravity power armor can exist at all. That doesn't mean I then accept any old horseshit someone serves up to me without question.
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Old 2011-02-06, 04:38   Link #64
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Approved. :3

Though now I imagine Rachel going through various... attempts to define a key phrase to activate Starwright and henshin.
Since she is a kuudere I was planning to give her a level of badassery with henshin quotes.

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I certainly believe so, as the floating island is a technological marvel. Karon grew up in the Southern Australis mining states, a 3rd generation migrant from Singapore after the island became submerged, so she refers to Singapore as the Federation. Though it annoys her to sometimes have to quantate that by refering to the Metro. Given the endless haggling and puzzling decrees coming out of the capital, it is little wonder that residents Australis think rather low of it. Especially when the Three Diagram computer is what's doing most of the groundwork.
The Federation sounds like Malaysia. I don't think we went back, and I wouldn't want to!

Besides, I wanted to call it the Metropolis because I don't want to get sued by the land of private enterprises held by government investors.

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Agreed, that would mean that the STE team's SISAR-21 is a related rifle, but again taken in a different direction to Metro thinking. Its like the SAR-21 version that has rails for mounting gadgets versus the stock one you used for MEISTER.
MEISTER doesn't need rail mounted gadgets, it has a scope that can attune with the IS to see where the gun is pointing. For a more accurate aim one just need to aim down the scope.

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...is I just me, or are the Night Elf references for real here?
Nope. Those RC units are named Moonfangs for a reason.

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Now I get it, Starwright works like a Strike Gundam, interchangeable packs!

And no problems about hiding secrets in there. Its starting to look like Starwright is a different project from STE's version altogether. Which is even better, the MDF going one way while the SAF is going in another. I doubt there'd be a head-on clash, but it will create friction between the Federation's reps, and play into the "size of Metro's IS program is the world's worst kept secret" bits.
It is a joint "privately funded" project (the Metro puts capitalism to build the best IS.....smart idea) initiated by Metro and Japanese contracted engineers, most of which are private engineers who came from across the world to lend their expertise. It is something like the F-35 Lightning project but each country has their own variation in the electronics and avionics.

Cosmic Shroud is a Gen 3 modular add-on to give Starwright more weapons, which otherwise, in its default config, only has the MEISTER, guided RPGs and Blind Horizon. But still, the last weapon is the most mysterious and deadliest weapon of that mech.

I'll be touching on Magaru if I have the time to write the fic. That is the first mystery of Starwright.

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I'm approaching from ground level actually. The side of "what the hell are the brass doing", that was more of the feeling I get from the country these days. Things are working fine, because everyone wants to keep the status quo going, but there's this nagging doubt that it might buckle and undo everything.
Well the introduction of the IS is a combo-breaker for the MDF. Now girls have to serve NS too....as mass-production IS pilots covering the air while the guys take the ground fight.

And here is the schematic of the anti-IS round without the cartridge :



1. Polymer housing.
2. Superconducting solenoid coil with leads connected to 3.
3. Thin ceramic casing.
4. Film of high explosive.
5. Tungsten penetrator.
6. Secondary charge to fire 5.

When the bullet connects with the electric shield of another IS, it juices up the solenoid (2), which fires off the high explosive (4) and discharges a small but intense EM shockwave that puts a hole in the shield where the bullet hit. The remaining electric charge travels down to the secondary charge (6) and fires off the penetrator (5), hitting the base armor of the IS.

I am at a loss of whether to include a cartridge or not for the round....with an EM accelerator it doesn't seem to need one.

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Yay Keroko is here! I love your OCs!

You should name her Wulffe and give her a wolf ears hairband.
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Old 2011-02-06, 05:02   Link #65
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Says the guy that brought it up here to begin with, beside which it's relevant in character creation to know the overall power level, and that stuff is compete and utter nonsense.

A IS can't even evade two dinky beer can missiles in ep 2 and you expect me to buy that another unit shot down 2,000 of them? Please that stuff is complete crap contradicted by everything we see in the acutal series. The IS are just mini-mecha and behave just like any other anime mecha that stuff cited is just wank that's not even vaguely supported by what we see. So unless you want to argue that for some asinine reason all IS we see in combat are operating at like 1% of there "real" capabilities I'm going to merrily disregard such hyperbolic bullshit.

I suspend my disbelief by accepting that flying anti-gravity power armor can exist at all. That doesn't mean I then accept any old horseshit someone serves up to me without question.
Which is why I hope a war breaks out somewhere along the half-way point of the series. Make the IS prove their reputation. Personally I'm invoking the Gundam principle on this: Offensive capabilities increase exponentially relative to the number of enemies the unit is fighting.

Mai Otome is another example of this. During the one-on-one fights, the robes hardly showed their reputation for being able to end wars single-handedly. Then a dozen or two episodes down the line, Mai obliterates an entire army.

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Spoiler for small spoiler:
I can imagine both recipients of said obsession being less-than-happy.

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Yay Keroko is here! I love your OCs!

You should name her Wulffe and give her a wolf ears hairband.
"de Wolf" is actually Dutch for "the wolf" already.

Wolf themes... Hmm.... That's something to think about. Maybe not as blatantly obvious as wolf ears (though I could have them pop out on occasion when she's planning something), but I could make her a night person.
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Old 2011-02-06, 05:10   Link #66
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Tk... You and I don't get along on principle, but for pete's sake, take one five or take your beef where it belongs. In fact, if you want to "discuss" numbers, go over to the technology section or go straight to the head honchos in the light novel discussion thread. I imagine they'd just love to entertain your skepticism.
Says the guy that brought it up here to begin with, beside which it's relevant in character creation to know the overall power level, and that stuff is compete and utter nonsense.

A IS can't even evade two dinky beer can missiles in ep 2 and you expect me to buy that another unit shot down 2,000 of them? Please that stuff is complete crap contradicted by everything we see in the acutal series. The IS are just mini-mecha and behave just like any other anime mecha that stuff cited is just wank that's not even vaguely supported by what we see. So unless you want to argue that for some asinine reason all IS we see in combat are operating at like 1% of there "real" capabilities I'm going to merrily disregard such hyperbolic bullshit.

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Seriously. It's Japan, and without suspension of disbelief, I believe, you might suffer a spontaneous cranial aneurysm.
I suspend my disbelief by accepting that flying anti-gravity power armor can exist at all. That doesn't mean I then accept any old horseshit someone serves up to me without question.
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Old 2011-02-06, 05:20   Link #67
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At first, I thought it was a mahou shoujo outfit.


Well being a Technology Demonstrator, it has the leeway of looking whatever sense of being an IS would be- even if it now looked more like some powered suit than the powered armor that IS usually are

well still building the variants and operational history- and it has the honor of being one of the first victims of Chifuyu's rampage through her Mondo Grosso Campaign
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First, is the fact that you guys already have a fanfiction thread:

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=101424

The thread was created quite sometime ago and I even made a post here to tell everybody about it. If you want to take your original characters further and want to start creating a story around them please use the thread linked above instead.

Second, please avoid trowing jabs at other people simply because you disagree with them. If people start to take things too seriously (and personal) their posts will be removed without warning.
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To be honest, I think over half of these posts should go to a fanfiction thread or something.
Which reminds me, I need to get that index post up before I gets reeeaaally overloaded here...

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Quick draw-up for Osirus:



Meh...
That is GRAND. Befitting of a pharoah.

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And since I don't want to be left out of the party:

The blue haired artillery: Helena de Wolf
A part of me wanted to say... many-tails Malygos-tan?



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Since she is a kuudere I was planning to give her a level of badassery with henshin quotes.
You know... I also fancied doing a small henshin quote at times, but never could get one that could fit. Seeing this...

...maybe in girls NS, part of the IA drills is working out their henshin phrase.

Karon: Henshin!
Imouto: Gattai!
Together: Go! MER-RI-OOON!!

*fleeeeeeeeeeeez*

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APPROVED.

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The Federation sounds like Malaysia. I don't think we went back, and I wouldn't want to!
About time you noticed. Its made to set-up a misunderstanding. Australia is a Federation, so Karon grew up thinking that was an appropriate way to describe the country. Also, she's into Star Trek, which is why Federation appeals to her the right way. And as a 3rd gen migrant to the mining states of Singapore, she doesn't have the fear of Malaya like we do. Besides, for them, Singapore bought out Malaysia when the flood came and messed up the whole continent.

Nevertheless, Representative Malaya will nod gladly at that, Representative Indo-China remains ambivalent, while Representative Metropolis will have her hair standing after loads of 'Federation' this 'Federation' that.

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Besides, I wanted to call it the Metropolis because I don't want to get sued by the land of private enterprises held by government investors.
No worries man; each of the 4 official representatives identify themselves differently. I'll make sure the Metro rep does like your's. Thankfully, she's already graduated; the first 3 STE IS are already active in the [IS-League], so we won't have any confusion there.

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MEISTER doesn't need rail mounted gadgets, it has a scope that can attune with the IS to see where the gun is pointing. For a more accurate aim one just need to aim down the scope.
True. Though for the SISAR-21, I combined the SAR's butt with the front rails of the SCAR-15 stretching all the way back to where the carrying handle would be. The rails are for attaching additional weapons like RGG launchers, wired claws and beam bayonets. For Karon, she likes it simple, so there's a red dot attached and a vertical underslung grip, and that's it.

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Nope. Those RC units are named Moonfangs for a reason.
I'm afraid I don't get the reference then.

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It is a joint "privately funded" project (the Metro puts capitalism to build the best IS.....smart idea) initiated by Metro and Japanese contracted engineers, most of which are private engineers who came from across the world to lend their expertise. It is something like the F-35 Lightning project but each country has their own variation in the electronics and avionics.

Cosmic Shroud is a Gen 3 modular add-on to give Starwright more weapons, which otherwise, in its default config, only has the MEISTER, guided RPGs and Blind Horizon. But still, the last weapon is the most mysterious and deadliest weapon of that mech.

I'll be touching on Magaru if I have the time to write the fic. That is the first mystery of Starwright.
Aaaah. :3

I'm updating Merlion's combat data over time. It's grown quite a bit, and since its for Arena fights, its a little dramatic:

IS-calibur: Karon first charges her opponent with sonic cutters drawn, knocking them off-balance and stunning them. Alternatively, she can fire the wired Boost Knuckles with Sonic Cutter unsheathed to achieve a similar effect for targets out of reach. Gou then launches off both Matador claws and slams them into the ground. Gou detaches her overhead pack, which transforms briefly into the humanoid mecha Imouto before morphing into a giant crossguard that docks with the claws in stone. Karon then grabs the hilt and takes off skywards, pulling a massive 15 meter long blade of pink energy from the ground then finishing her opponent off with it.

(the Merlion's warfighting protocol is much saner and less over the top. This is for audience fanservice.)

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Well the introduction of the IS is a combo-breaker for the MDF. Now girls have to serve NS too....as mass-production IS pilots covering the air while the guys take the ground fight.
I think its a reverse; girls would gladly vie for the few spots available to Singapore at the Academy. There's just not enough cores to go around and make an army.

However, once the girls qualify, they will serve 2 years "NS" as professional gladiators for the IS-League, while conducting live drills with SAF units in between in a hush-hush fashion. They may go on to join the Singapore Lions and represent the Federation at Monco Grosso.

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And here is the schematic of the anti-IS round without the cartridge :



1. Polymer housing.
2. Superconducting solenoid coil with leads connected to 3.
3. Thin ceramic casing.
4. Film of high explosive.
5. Tungsten penetrator.
6. Secondary charge to fire 5.

When the bullet connects with the electric shield of another IS, it juices up the solenoid (2), which fires off the high explosive (4) and discharges a small but intense EM shockwave that puts a hole in the shield where the bullet hit. The remaining electric charge travels down to the secondary charge (6) and fires off the penetrator (5), hitting the base armor of the IS.

I am at a loss of whether to include a cartridge or not for the round....with an EM accelerator it doesn't seem to need one.
Actually, I'd modify your idea. Instead of a coilgun, how about a real railgun? I only recently learnt that there's a difference. Both don't need cartridges, but the railgun's added advantage is that it doesn't have the magnetic saturation problem of a EM-accelerated coilgun.

The rest, I realize its kinda like a tank AP sabot isn't it? Sweet... No wonder it can't be summoned. Karon won't be carrying that version around because its too militarized for her purposes. BUT as an NCC (Commando), she's trained in both.

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Yay Keroko is here! I love your OCs!

You should name her Wulffe and give her a wolf ears hairband.
Seconded on the ears! XD

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And here's a quick idea i made- actually i have this idea brewing when the series started airing.

Spoiler for IS Unit in Progress:


I shall work on this more, if there is anything bothering
TAJADOOOOOOOL--

*rainbow-stabbed*

I'm so glad I left Phillipines out of the water-logged Federation.

Looks good, and seems like we both use sonic weapons quite a bit. Nice starter, care to add onto her as a character?

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A Slight World-building post of sorts

Spoiler for “The FHM of IS”:


- I need actual dates/years of the Series and when IS were first developed.

- Now accepting questions for our one-on-one interview with Gerard - PM me with them
6 years ago, IS was invented. And I suppose the Federation would like to advertise their upcoming Solo-event Gladiator for Monco Grosso.

But I'm still building Merlion's tactical profile. There's been quite a few changes after working with Saintess, and some parts still need typing out. Going to be a while.

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Concerning my IS Frame design and such, I managed to secure something unpublished from the IS Magazine itself.

Spoiler for Unpublished item from STRATOMAG's IS Collections:
TAJADOL! TAJADOOOO--


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The thread was created quite sometime ago and I even made a post here to tell everybody about it. If you want to take your original characters further and want to start creating a story around them please use the thread linked above instead.
Can we keep the mechs' technical discussions to this thread? I don't want to mess up the Fanfic thread.....let it solely be for stories.

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I can imagine both recipients of said obsession being less-than-happy.
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APPROVED.
Not when Chifuyu gets to be the seme.

But it is simply her imagination at work. Those things don't actually happen, do they?

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"de Wolf" is actually Dutch for "the wolf" already.

Wolf themes... Hmm.... That's something to think about. Maybe not as blatantly obvious as wolf ears (though I could have them pop out on occasion when she's planning something), but I could make her a night person.
Her ears could be like part of her hair, like Kiriya Nozomi from Mayoi Neko Overrun. But the "always sleeping in class, but studies hard at night" type sounds moe to me.

Come to think of it, the timezones between Netherlands and Japan are almost opposite, so that gives her an excuse to be like that.

With regards to her weaponry, maybe we could add something like the Shock Cannon from Starcraft's siege tank? One shot = solves all problems.

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You know... I also fancied doing a small henshin quote at times, but never could get one that could fit. Seeing this...
Yours could be the genki-girl type with too much energy to spend, and thus unique in a sense that she's the only IS pilot who has a henshin quote and does it during the IS leagues, much to the chagrin of her official handlers at the Metro embassy.

Sure, it does throw face, but she's good and efficient so the officials, like any other Singaporean, overlook that point with a facepalm.

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About time you noticed. Its made to set-up a misunderstanding. Australia is a Federation, so Karon grew up thinking that was an appropriate way to describe the country. Also, she's into Star Trek, which is why Federation appeals to her the right way. And as a 3rd gen migrant to the mining states of Singapore, she doesn't have the fear of Malaya like we do. Besides, for them, Singapore bought out Malaysia when the flood came and messed up the whole continent.
Maybe we could use the word "regional coalition", since they are all part of SEA? Or even better, form something like the SEA version of NATO, thus giving them the military cooperation and similarity fitting into the storyline.

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Nevertheless, Representative Malaya will nod gladly at that, Representative Indo-China remains ambivalent, while Representative Metropolis will have her hair standing after loads of 'Federation' this 'Federation' that.
I think there is a misunderstanding.

Rachel isn't Rep Metro. She's just a normal girl who wants to attend the IS Academy so as to fulfill her wish of taking after her mother as a legendary IS pilot. And her dad's connections got her there.

Karon can be Rep Metro. I think that would be a good reason to put them both in the same dorm.

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True. Though for the SISAR-21, I combined the SAR's butt with the front rails of the SCAR-15 stretching all the way back to where the carrying handle would be. The rails are for attaching additional weapons like RGG launchers, wired claws and beam bayonets. For Karon, she likes it simple, so there's a red dot attached and a vertical underslung grip, and that's it.
Sounds like a good idea. Though I don't know how she's going to carry such a gun with so many things attached.

The rocket anchor is an interesting idea though.

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I'm afraid I don't get the reference then.
I'll write the fic next week after I submit all my semester projects. This sounds like fun!

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I think its a reverse; girls would gladly vie for the few spots available to Singapore at the Academy. There's just not enough cores to go around and make an army.

However, once the girls qualify, they will serve 2 years "NS" as professional gladiators for the IS-League, while conducting live drills with SAF units in between in a hush-hush fashion. They may go on to join the Singapore Lions and represent the Federation at Monco Grosso.
Ahhh too many good ideas. Need to find someplace to write this down......

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Actually, I'd modify your idea. Instead of a coilgun, how about a real railgun? I only recently learnt that there's a difference. Both don't need cartridges, but the railgun's added advantage is that it doesn't have the magnetic saturation problem of a EM-accelerated coilgun.
I have to say no to this one. A railgun works with only metallic bullets that can conduct electricity, and since this bullet is trapped in a polymer casing, the Lorentz Force doesn't apply.

Then again, the coilgun might be a bad idea due to Lenz's Law (magnetic fields generating electric current and potential difference), and that the explosives within the gun are electrically fired, it can cause horrendous chamber explosions.

Basically, the bullet draws electricity from the shield it hits (which is basically an electrically charged field working on piezoelectric principles like the Phase Shift armor in GS). The high current AND voltage of the shield electrifies the bullet and triggering all the explosives, PLUS fire the penetrator in a split second.

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The rest, I realize its kinda like a tank AP sabot isn't it? Sweet... No wonder it can't be summoned. Karon won't be carrying that version around because its too militarized for her purposes. BUT as an NCC (Commando), she's trained in both.
Yeah, it is based on the Raufoss round (Incendiary + armor piercing). The outer casing is based on the FCG (flux compression generator) type of EMP bomb.
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Old 2011-02-06, 11:18   Link #71
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I feel there's going to be a lot of back and forth talk, separating the discussions between the fanfiction and the OC thread. Isn't it a better idea to keep these things central?

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A part of me wanted to say... many-tails Malygos-tan?
Hah! Hadn't thought of it that way.

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Not when Chifuyu gets to be the seme.

But it is simply her imagination at work. Those things don't actually happen, do they?
Given that Ichika seems to be suffering from a permanent AXE effect, I'm not so sure...

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Her ears could be like part of her hair, like Kiriya Nozomi from Mayoi Neko Overrun. But the "always sleeping in class, but studies hard at night" type sounds moe to me.

Come to think of it, the timezones between Netherlands and Japan are almost opposite, so that gives her an excuse to be like that.
She does have a nice excuse... and what a surprise when she goes from 'that blunt sleepy-head' in class to "Wait, where is she? All the way over there? How does she think she's going to hit me from- OMYGODHOWTHEHELLAMISUPPOSEDTODODGETHAT!" in the arena.

Hmm, come to think of it, those gizmo's on her head look sort of ear-ish, don't they? What if I'm going to make them respond like ears?

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With regards to her weaponry, maybe we could add something like the Shock Cannon from Starcraft's siege tank? One shot = solves all problems.
That's what her heavy cannon is for. But speaking of which, the six-barrel heavy lasers are sort of similar to the Thor's shoulder mounted cannons, now that I think about it. Just beam variants, since it'd be rather hard for an IS to carry around enough ammunition for a sustained barrage. Beams let me handwave that.

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Yours could be the genki-girl type with too much energy to spend, and thus unique in a sense that she's the only IS pilot who has a henshin quote and does it during the IS leagues, much to the chagrin of her official handlers at the Metro embassy.

Sure, it does throw face, but she's good and efficient so the officials, like any other Singaporean, overlook that point with a facepalm.
Meanwhile, the Japanese audience goes crazy and she becomes an instant favorite.
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Old 2011-02-06, 12:19   Link #72
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Given that Ichika seems to be suffering from a permanent AXE effect, I'm not so sure...
Oh don't worry. It'll pass well enough.....

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Hmm, come to think of it, those gizmo's on her head look sort of ear-ish, don't they? What if I'm going to make them respond like ears?
How about giving her a kemonomimi hairband with ears (actually her radar receiver) that responds to her emotions as her IS Deploy?

Then we could name her full burst mode MOEB (Maximum Optimisation Energy Barrage)!

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That's what her heavy cannon is for. But speaking of which, the six-barrel heavy lasers are sort of similar to the Thor's shoulder mounted cannons, now that I think about it. Just beam variants, since it'd be rather hard for an IS to carry around enough ammunition for a sustained barrage. Beams let me handwave that.
Well there could be a charge-type energy cannon, or it simply has a built-in nanite molecular constructor which assembles ammunition on the fly.

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Meanwhile, the Japanese audience goes crazy and she becomes an instant favorite.
Have you ever wondered why this game, which is supposed to be a small-scale game, become immensely popular not only in Japan but around the world? Now it has 5 localisations in total globally!

When you mix girls with mecha, guns and swords, their main concept of moe is always inclined towards badass adorable. Though it is incredibly hard to make the character both cute and badass at the same time
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Old 2011-02-06, 17:16   Link #73
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I feel there's going to be a lot of back and forth talk, separating the discussions between the fanfiction and the OC thread. Isn't it a better idea to keep these things central?
Hmmmm.......Ok, let me consult this with the rest of the staff. I am not so stubborn as to close my ears to other people's suggestions and it may be easier to handle everything like this.

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Can we keep the mechs' technical discussions to this thread? I don't want to mess up the Fanfic thread.....let it solely be for stories.
As long as the focus is your original characters, then yes.
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Hmmmm.......Ok, let me consult this with the rest of the staff. I am not so stubborn as to close my ears to other people's suggestions and it may be easier to handle everything like this.
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How about giving her a kemonomimi hairband with ears (actually her radar receiver) that responds to her emotions as her IS Deploy?

Then we could name her full burst mode MOEB (Maximum Optimisation Energy Barrage)!
Nah, there's such a thing as throwing too many fetishes on a character.

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Well there could be a charge-type energy cannon, or it simply has a built-in nanite molecular constructor which assembles ammunition on the fly.
I'll juggle the ideas. It's not as if I have to reveal all weapons right now anyway, she might get more as the story progresses.

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Have you ever wondered why this game, which is supposed to be a small-scale game, become immensely popular not only in Japan but around the world? Now it has 5 localisations in total globally!

When you mix girls with mecha, guns and swords, their main concept of moe is always inclined towards badass adorable. Though it is incredibly hard to make the character both cute and badass at the same time
I am still amazed that game made it outside Japan at all.
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Fixed bio.
Now, could someone tell me when and why IS cores were distributed to other countries? I've probably got that canon wrong.
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Not when Chifuyu gets to be the seme.

But it is simply her imagination at work. Those things don't actually happen, do they?
Doesn't make them less fun to watch.

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Yours could be the genki-girl type with too much energy to spend, and thus unique in a sense that she's the only IS pilot who has a henshin quote and does it during the IS leagues, much to the chagrin of her official handlers at the Metro embassy.

Sure, it does throw face, but she's good and efficient so the officials, like any other Singaporean, overlook that point with a facepalm.
SOLD.

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Maybe we could use the word "regional coalition", since they are all part of SEA? Or even better, form something like the SEA version of NATO, thus giving them the military cooperation and similarity fitting into the storyline.
*whacks forehead*

The ASEAN Foundation!! How the heck did I forget that. XD

I'll need to go rework this a few bits.

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I think there is a misunderstanding.

Rachel isn't Rep Metro. She's just a normal girl who wants to attend the IS Academy so as to fulfill her wish of taking after her mother as a legendary IS pilot. And her dad's connections got her there.

Karon can be Rep Metro. I think that would be a good reason to put them both in the same dorm.
...that saves me quite a bit of effort.

Okay I didn't have to go mess up Australia for this lol!! Its still her birthplace, but she returns to Singapore for NS. Sounds familiar? XD

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Sounds like a good idea. Though I don't know how she's going to carry such a gun with so many things attached.

The rocket anchor is an interesting idea though.
The option is there, just options not taken.

Too much gundam and SRW made me fond of wired appendages and flying arms.
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I'll write the fic next week after I submit all my semester projects. This sounds like fun!
Looking forward to reading them. Once I find time in between RPing for Valkyria Chronicles, I'll go pump something out. Already dreamed up Karon's first appearance.

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Ahhh too many good ideas. Need to find someplace to write this down......
I use google docs. XD

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I have to say no to this one. A railgun works with only metallic bullets that can conduct electricity, and since this bullet is trapped in a polymer casing, the Lorentz Force doesn't apply.

Then again, the coilgun might be a bad idea due to Lenz's Law (magnetic fields generating electric current and potential difference), and that the explosives within the gun are electrically fired, it can cause horrendous chamber explosions.

Basically, the bullet draws electricity from the shield it hits (which is basically an electrically charged field working on piezoelectric principles like the Phase Shift armor in GS). The high current AND voltage of the shield electrifies the bullet and triggering all the explosives, PLUS fire the penetrator in a split second.
I see. Well we could also handwave the shield to be able to alter the universal magnetic constant, that way a coilgun would work much better. After all, Rin's IS could use compressed physical space as bullets, altering universal constants should be easy.

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Yeah, it is based on the Raufoss round (Incendiary + armor piercing). The outer casing is based on the FCG (flux compression generator) type of EMP bomb.


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Hah! Hadn't thought of it that way.
Partly because I know you have a dragon fetish.

Sleepyhead huh... Guess we don't need Orussia for that moe. XD

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She does have a nice excuse... and what a surprise when she goes from 'that blunt sleepy-head' in class to "Wait, where is she? All the way over there? How does she think she's going to hit me from- OMYGODHOWTHEHELLAMISUPPOSEDTODODGETHAT!" in the arena.
Catches people off guard. Like how an innocent imouto suddenly turning into a trolling sadist can be very very unpredictable.

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Hmm, come to think of it, those gizmo's on her head look sort of ear-ish, don't they? What if I'm going to make them respond like ears?
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Meanwhile, the Japanese audience goes crazy and she becomes an instant favorite.
Totally worth it. And she's even protected by the ABS while henshin posing.

I have to add that its not compulsory. Karon can shift quickly into full IS mode silently in a real warfighting scenario. This, like IS-Calibur and Raising Heart Breaker, is part of her fanservice protocol. Gladiators have to be entertaining, don't they?

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Have you ever wondered why this game, which is supposed to be a small-scale game, become immensely popular not only in Japan but around the world? Now it has 5 localisations in total globally!

When you mix girls with mecha, guns and swords, their main concept of moe is always inclined towards badass adorable. Though it is incredibly hard to make the character both cute and badass at the same time
I must have unintentionally done it. Gou Karon's imouto-type character is actually her IS' that she allows to control her body and experience being human. Karon herself is cold, cunning and manipulative, and would do anything if it yields results. Including that henshin to grab attention; she's very hard to embarrass, too.

The end result is someone who's an adorable imouto most of the time, turning a little GAR when the time calls it, and when shit hits the fan...

"You need to cool your head a little." /trollface

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Sleepy-heads, apathetic folk and split personalities. Ling's going to have a handful with that class of hers.

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Now, could someone tell me when and why IS cores were distributed to other countries? I've probably got that canon wrong.
Cores were distributed amongst the other countries to preserve the power balance, since a single IS has a significant impact on a countries military power.

Also, good to see another IS going for more firepower then hotblood sword action.
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Sleepy-heads, apathetic folk and split personalities. Ling's going to have a handful with that class of hers.
Imouto: Chi-he-he-he! I can't leave Ranran-nee alone after all!
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Also, good to see another IS going for more firepower then hotblood sword action.
Firepower is always good. Pink beams of wide-are destruction? Very very good. :3

(see below for more details. IS-Calibur was more the exception rather than the rule)


EDIT: IS-Calibur was dropped for diluting the theme of beamspam.
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Old 2011-02-07, 00:50   Link #79
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Nah, there's such a thing as throwing too many fetishes on a character.
Well you could just take the hairband with "wings" that actually just press the hair above her ears to her head. They could just move up and down according to her mood (usually down since she doesn't exactly care about anything else during daytime other than SLEEP).

She could speak in a nonchalant Sanya-like voice in arena fights :

Helena :
Target spotted.
Acquiring range.
Coordinates received.
Readying weapons.
Firing.

Opponent :
Oh what is she - WHATTHEHELLHOWTHEHECKAMIGOINGTODODGETHAT?

Helena :
Boring. I want to sleep.

That is one way of badass adorable. Just draw a few pictures of her sleeping soundly on her desk or curling up in a corner of the gym store during P.E classes (skiving) will sure boost her moe factor by over 9000.

Just don't bleed to death drawing the last suggestion.

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Well the PVs were initially brought over from Nico to Youtube. That is what prompted the mass pre-order and the localisation to Korea during launch (the goddesses are so cute that even the Koreans want them).

And once the Koreans have them, the rest of the world demanded them. And NISA had to obey.....Atelier Totori was released earlier but localised much later.

With regards to Karon, I am going to read the specs later after I cleaned up my Econs project. Also, I have pretty much concrete character map of Rachel :

- Kuudere
- Single Ponytail to the bottom of neck (takes it off if she does a full transform, retains it in partial transform)
- Lawful, hardworking - basically the total opposite of Karon
- Often skewed and totally wrong interpretation of interactions between others e.g : thinks that Houki actually slept with Ichika, who is the sub to his sister Chifuyu, etc.
- Shows a yandere streak when using Blind Horizon
- Uppity when it comes to dealing with "bad students"
- Cosplay victim. Of almost anyone who brings her shopping.
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