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Old 2011-02-14, 12:31   Link #261
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Those are the pages I was referring to. We have Yuki pushing Toru down, then calling him a liar while he's still on the ground. Where is the evidence that this is beyond their first confrontation?
She pushes him down in the classroom. The other one is in the front of the school. Please don't just look at the thumbnails.
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Old 2011-02-14, 14:21   Link #262
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The sequence doesn't have a dream like decoration, it looks pretty clear to be a flashback.
Since the guys are faceless glowing eyed monsters, there's room for it being more interpretative than an actual memory.
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Old 2011-02-17, 00:52   Link #263
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chaper 15?

i'm sorry, chaper 15? where did you find them? can you send me a link or something?
i read until chaper 11 and i can't find the others ones..pls i wanna read those chaper badly!
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Old 2011-02-17, 01:11   Link #264
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i'm sorry, chaper 15? where did you find them? can you send me a link or something?
i read until chaper 11 and i can't find the others ones..pls i wanna read those chaper badly!
up to 11 is scanlated. but there are still a few more raw chapters
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Old 2011-02-17, 13:38   Link #265
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Old 2011-02-17, 14:00   Link #266
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Seems like someone has been skipping pages.

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Yeah that doesn't seem like a dream sequence (made up) but rather a flashback he was having of what happened to him.
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Old 2011-02-17, 15:21   Link #267
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Old 2011-02-17, 16:15   Link #268
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Hmm, while I admit I do read/watch quite a bit of h-anime/manga, I would say it's the latter. The very idea of such an event has far more impact in a series that lacks such situations. Perhaps its knowing the probable consequences to that action that affects the character in combination of said character being innocent(or sometimes, just absolutely stupid/naive, or is emotionally out-of-char for some reason) that makes me feel that way; an amalgam of things that I am thinking at that one moment just makes me go 'doki-doki'.
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Old 2011-02-17, 17:02   Link #269
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Ok, WTF did just happened there.

And as for the question on how Toru knew, well, what exactly was the guys iris again?
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Old 2011-02-17, 17:12   Link #270
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Hmm, while I admit I do read/watch quite a bit of h-anime/manga, I would say it's the latter. The very idea of such an event has far more impact in a series that lacks such situations. Perhaps its knowing the probable consequences to that action that affects the character in combination of said character being innocent(or sometimes, just absolutely stupid/naive, or is emotionally out-of-char for some reason) that makes me feel that way; an amalgam of things that I am thinking at that one moment just makes me go 'doki-doki'.
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Old 2011-02-17, 17:53   Link #271
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... or there's a possibility that the rumor is not true.
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Old 2011-02-17, 17:58   Link #272
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To me, he has the similar attitude of Rygart (from Break blade) in the first part of the story. He says the same, if he can take the blows, then the other person may just back away.
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Old 2011-02-17, 18:46   Link #273
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As much as his intentions were noble, Toru could've at least put a resistance. A useless punk like that one that kicked him should learn a lesson or two. Ah, talk about a nice guy. He's a whole lot better than any of those who had iris who completely depend on it but Toru depends on his wits and experiences that he doesn't need one at all.
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Old 2011-02-17, 18:50   Link #274
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Old 2011-02-17, 19:15   Link #275
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Old 2011-02-17, 21:30   Link #276
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ookay... that was something....
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Old 2011-02-17, 22:38   Link #277
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As much as his intentions were noble, Toru could've at least put a resistance. A useless punk like that one that kicked him should learn a lesson or two. Ah, talk about a nice guy. He's a whole lot better than any of those who had iris who completely depend on it but Toru depends on his wits and experiences that he doesn't need one at all.
I think Toru's at the point where he's tired of resisting. He had to put up with this kind of bullying since he was a kid, so he'd rather let things take its course than waste more energy.

It seems that a person's character is affected by the Iris they have while growing up. Koyuki's ability to see a person's qualification has made her a good judge of character, Yuki's ability to directly see lies made her have a rigid sense of justice and a very judgmental character, and Hijiri's ability to see death made him very gloomy, but at the same time he seems to enjoy and appreciate his life the most now since he knows that he knows what it's like to lose something.

Perhaps Kuga's ability to see emotions has caused to her to become a bit spiteful and cynical since she may have seen a fair share of insincere people. As she showed, she can see through lies a bit more thoroughly with her Iris than Yuki can with hers.
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Old 2011-02-17, 23:12   Link #278
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Interesting. They outright call the Iris Hunter a she.

Love the darkness in this whole thing. I have to wonder what the authors are going to do to tastefully top this. Most of my ideas go off the deep end.

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Old 2011-02-17, 23:24   Link #279
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Interesting. They outright call the Iris Hunter a she.

Love the darkness in this whole thing. I have to wonder what the authors are going to do to tastefully top this. Most of my ideas go off the deep end.

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dealing with psychological problems MIGHT not be in toru's abilities.... probably... he DID say he cant solve something that has to much emotions.
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Old 2011-02-18, 00:09   Link #280
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dealing with psychological problems MIGHT not be in toru's abilities.... probably... he DID say he cant solve something that has to much emotions.
Not psychological problems per se. He has a huge weakness with love and friendship, but he has experienced and knows full well what fear, loathing, and isolation are. Part of his character's problem is that his style of avoiding the waves of negative emotions isolates him from positive emotions too. He likely hasn't felt as supported as what Yuki did to him in a while.

I'd like to see more of how he handles having fun with friends in any way. That probably never occurred to him.

What's left is probably Sasamori. She's a bit too optimistic of everything and doesn't fully realize that it can force people around her like Toru to suffer. I'd expect Yuki to start reprimanding her after the sad look of realization on her face this chapter.
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