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Old 2011-02-19, 22:11   Link #7941
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quick question: What's with the speculation of Touma coming back as the villain? I don't feel like going back and skimming through till i find it.
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Old 2011-02-19, 22:14   Link #7942
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quick question: What's with the speculation of Touma coming back as the villain? I don't feel like going back and skimming through till i find it.
Nothing... Literally it's a crack theory, albeit a popular one.
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Old 2011-02-19, 22:22   Link #7943
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Really..huh? It is very interesting even if it does turn out to be true, but I can't see that happening.
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Old 2011-02-19, 23:04   Link #7944
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Really..huh? It is very interesting even if it does turn out to be true, but I can't see that happening.
this is the LN thread so no spoilers alerts.

Well its a speculation that touma has Lucifer inside of him. Why?

Cuz in the bible lucifer was sealed by the holy right. Gods right seat says TOumas imagine breaker is the holy right, and when imagine breaker was cut off an evil powerful energy or force was coming out of where his arm was supposed to be. Just like ep 9 in season 1 and it always saves him. Which is how i think Touma survived being crushed by biaggios crosses.

But there is something else. Aleister said that thinking the Cristian way about Kamijou and Imagine Breaker gets u nowhere. (ahhh cramp!!!) So its also a possibility that instead of lucifer its the Demon "SET "from egyptian mythology since the Aeons are named after egyptian gods.
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Old 2011-02-19, 23:08   Link #7945
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i really want the author to take another route than the hero-gone-bad, a theory of mine is that touma lost his imagine breaker and its sealed somewhere so his "inner power" dont get out.
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i really want the author to take another route than the hero-gone-bad, a theory of mine is that touma lost his imagine breaker and its sealed somewhere so his "inner power" dont get out.
What about the time travel theory?
Touma isn't dead so he doesn't exist in this world because he was sent some weeks, months, yars to the future.
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Old 2011-02-19, 23:37   Link #7947
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What about the time travel theory?
Touma isn't dead so he doesn't exist in this world because he was sent some weeks, months, yars to the future.
mm if it about time travel , its more likely for someone to come to save him, lets say his daugther/son without no one knowing that fact, and not ven the readers the mother
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mm if it about time travel , its more likely for someone to come to save him, lets say his daugther/son without no one knowing that fact, and not ven the readers the mother
A paradox in the timeline that must be fixed by Touma while he searchs for a way to return to his place in the time.

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http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/in...apter_3#Part_6
Parts 6-10 updated.
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Old 2011-02-20, 00:04   Link #7949
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the author have gone with some really unorthodox developments(read as non clich'e) in the story specially in early volumes, the biggest example it the novels starting before memory loss, i already lost count of mangas and LNs that start that way, so im hoping for a good explaination/development on toumas dissapeareance.

P.D:it would be rather funny if KAMIJOU next appaerance is in a hospital bed and he beign unable to use imagine breaker anymore.
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Old 2011-02-20, 02:48   Link #7950
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Touma's been in a hospital in Russia the whole time!
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Old 2011-02-20, 04:19   Link #7951
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Cuz in the bible lucifer was sealed by the holy right. Gods right seat says TOumas imagine breaker is the holy right, and when imagine breaker was cut off an evil powerful energy or force was coming out of where his arm was supposed to be. Just like ep 9 in season 1 and it always saves him. Which is how i think Touma survived being crushed by biaggios crosses.
THAT IS A MISTRANSLATION. If you go back, then you can see multiple times people stating that it was a mistranslation, and Touma does not actually have the Holy Right. Actually it's Fiamma I believe who has the Holy Right.

Touma's power so far is undefined.
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Old 2011-02-20, 05:24   Link #7952
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22 Volumes and we still donīt know anything about Touma XD
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Old 2011-02-20, 07:09   Link #7953
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Time travel is more real than you think. The PSP game is about time traveling.
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Old 2011-02-20, 07:15   Link #7954
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Time travel is more real than you think. The PSP game is about time traveling.
That was a crap-out attempt at time traveling
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Old 2011-02-20, 07:42   Link #7955
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are there no new informations about New Testament ?
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Old 2011-02-20, 08:19   Link #7956
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are there no new informations about New Testament ?
Nah the book would be out in 2-3 weeks time, we'll just have to hang on.

Beside, I'll be suspicious of any information magically revealed during this period so close to the release date, people tend to be very susceptible to rumors and wild speculations.
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Old 2011-02-20, 08:28   Link #7957
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quick question: What's with the speculation of Touma coming back as the villain? I don't feel like going back and skimming through till i find it.
it's a crack theory, basically touma is dead and whatever is sealed inside his body took over it
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Old 2011-02-20, 08:58   Link #7958
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That was a crap-out attempt at time traveling
Or Kamachi's attempt at foreshadowing by making it that crappy on purpose.
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Old 2011-02-20, 09:08   Link #7959
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Or Kamachi's attempt at foreshadowing by making it that crappy on purpose.
The whole time loop business is messy by nature- Just look at what it did to Blazblue

Toaru is complex enough without having to worry about time travel

P.S - btw Kha, did you receive me...
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Old 2011-02-20, 09:33   Link #7960
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THAT IS A MISTRANSLATION. If you go back, then you can see multiple times people stating that it was a mistranslation, and Touma does not actually have the Holy Right. Actually it's Fiamma I believe who has the Holy Right.

Touma's power so far is undefined.
no i believe the mistranslation was that before it was called the holy stone.


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-There was a mistranslation when spoilers of Volume 16 first came out, with Fiamma stating Imagine Breaker is similar to the 'Holy Stone'. In actuality it's the 'Holy Right', as the kanji for Right and Stone are very similar (石 - stone; 右 - right)
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