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Old 2011-02-20, 00:19   Link #7821
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This.... really shouldn't be argued. If Hata says, "the culprit will be on the cover of the next chapter", then the culprit will be on the cover of the next chapter...
If the writer of Haruhi Suzumiya says, through one of his characters, that the main character is nothing but an ordinary human, he's nothing but an ordinary human?
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Old 2011-02-20, 01:20   Link #7822
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Oh yes, what a writer says on his twitter account is obviously the same as when he has a fictional character in his fictional story say something. Obviously.
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Old 2011-02-20, 01:27   Link #7823
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Oh yes, what a writer says on his twitter account is obviously the same as when he has a fictional character in his fictional story say something. Obviously.
My statement is simply saying that, words are only words when not given with proof behind them. Especially when that is the core message of the manga itself.
Hayate is on the cover, but no matter what Hata may say, Hayate's expression does not fit with the supposition that he's viewing the (fanservice-filled) video that Izumi recorded this chapter.
If we find that the picture is true, but the words on the side of the picture tell us something completely different, which are we to believe?

(This is exactly the issue I have with Athena-shippers. They take the words as written irregardless of actions.)
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Old 2011-02-20, 10:04   Link #7824
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The spoiler pic for 309 is already out, and it does contain the cover.

Warning(NSFW): Service! Service! Service!

http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=1004559594
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Old 2011-02-20, 10:52   Link #7825
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The spoiler pic for 309 is already out, and it does contain the cover.

Warning(NSFW): Service! Service! Service!

http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=1004559594
I wanted more Maria....but this is not what I had in mind....

For a manga whose name is along the lines of "Like a Hurricane", it really seems to be moving like a small breeze right now....
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Old 2011-02-20, 13:14   Link #7826
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The spoiler pic for 309 is already out, and it does contain the cover.

Warning(NSFW): Service! Service! Service!

http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=1004559594
Now, it might just be me, but given the fanservice of the last chapter, that expression does not indicate Hayate is the culprit.
Even the chaste spirit of our favorite butler would have more reaction to that, as shown a short while ago while moving into the apartment, both his reaction to bringing Maria clothes and seeing the scene between Hinagiku and Izumi.
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Old 2011-02-20, 13:46   Link #7827
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Now, it might just be me
Yep, I'm pretty sure it's just you.

I think it's perfectly in character for Hayate to quietly erase the data.
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Old 2011-02-20, 13:47   Link #7828
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So, is Hata writing a magnificent plot in advance that he really needs all these chapters to buy himself more time, or is has he currently ran out of ideas? I swear, I was fine with making one chapter per (reasonably relevant) girl, he's done that before, so it was to be expected, but come on.

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Now, it might just be me, but given the fanservice of the last chapter, that expression does not indicate Hayate is the culprit.
Either I'm missing some sarcasm on your side, or I think you're fighting a lone battle, brother.
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Old 2011-02-20, 13:51   Link #7829
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I think it's perfectly in character for Hayate to quietly erase the data.
Ditto.

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So, is Hata writing a magnificent plot in advance that he really needs all these chapters to buy himself more time, or is has he currently ran out of ideas?
I hope it's the former, but I have my doubts.
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Old 2011-02-20, 15:14   Link #7830
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Either I'm missing some sarcasm on your side, or I think you're fighting a lone battle, brother.
Given that this is the only forum I'm on that isn't still debating the issue, and the spoiler is known for the next chapter, I don't believe so.

Even if I am, am I supposed to care?
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Old 2011-02-20, 15:47   Link #7831
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Are we seriously about to start another debate on such a trivial matter? Is it THAT big of a deal who deleted the data from that camera? I dont know if this little matter will SOMEHOW play some kind of role in the future, but as far as im concerned at this point in time...its unnecessary to delve so deep into the fact that "Hayate's face, look at it! he totally did not do it!!"

Then again, the fact that people seem to be in discussion about things like these might be because the series is currently lacking on material to discuss on...

/me goes back to lurking until something interesting happens
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Old 2011-02-20, 15:54   Link #7832
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I'm really hoping the rest of the arc is good enough to make up for all these rather shitty chapters. I mean, some have been nice, like the Alice and Izumi ones, but I think they story has been kept stale for about two months already. And what's worse, these chapters haven't been particularly funny or had any character development worth mentioning.
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Old 2011-02-20, 22:37   Link #7833
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So, is Hata writing a magnificent plot in advance that he really needs all these chapters to buy himself more time, or is has he currently ran out of ideas?
Talking about ideas.

Spoiler for dialogue on page 3 of spoiler pic:
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Old 2011-02-20, 23:55   Link #7834
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Talking about ideas.

Spoiler for dialogue on page 3 of spoiler pic:
well shit...even if that doesnt sound good for us...thats the first thing that has made me lol a lot in this manga in a while
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Old 2011-02-21, 04:06   Link #7835
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Fuck... at least Hata is honest. I can appreciate that.
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Old 2011-02-21, 04:29   Link #7836
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Lol...He should take a break for some thought gathering...
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Old 2011-02-21, 06:51   Link #7837
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He's already shown Nagi upset at the end of the timeskip, so she obviously fails in some way. There's no need to show her doing her best and everything up until then if you know she's going to fail, because that'd only crush her spirit. By not really trying and then feeling the weight of failure, it might push her to actually try at something instead of assuming it'll all work out.

Until then, we get 2-3 in-story weeks of random character development and character-based chapters for secondary characters. And with each chapter taking up about a day...
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Old 2011-02-21, 09:53   Link #7838
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Until then, we get 2-3 in-story weeks of random character development and character-based chapters for secondary characters. And with each chapter taking up about a day...
This was probably the plan, yeah. I think he's just running out of filler ideas at this point.

As for a timeline, the last "story" arc ended on May 22nd. 300-302 would have been the 23rd, and 303-308 are all about one day each. Last chapter was a school day, so we're probably around May 31st at this point.

That leaves a little less then two weeks until the flashforward, but ugh. I'm kinda hoping we skip ahead a little soon. That said, we don't really know what this weeks chapter is about other then excessive Maria fanservice and Hata poking fun at himself.


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He's already shown Nagi upset at the end of the timeskip, so she obviously fails in some way. There's no need to show her doing her best and everything up until then if you know she's going to fail, because that'd only crush her spirit. By not really trying and then feeling the weight of failure, it might push her to actually try at something instead of assuming it'll all work out.
This is also a good point. Judging from the flashforward June 12th will be more of a stepping point in Nagi's character development then any sort of conclusion.
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Old 2011-02-21, 13:11   Link #7839
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He's already shown Nagi upset at the end of the timeskip, so she obviously fails in some way. There's no need to show her doing her best and everything up until then if you know she's going to fail, because that'd only crush her spirit. By not really trying and then feeling the weight of failure, it might push her to actually try at something instead of assuming it'll all work out.
Erm.. Nagi doesn't have to lose, it's not even close to implied that she does, to curse Luca like she does in the flash forward. Nagi and Luca could have teamed up and won, just in an unexpected way, to cause such a reaction.
I'm willing to wait and see how things are going to play out, even if it does mean more filler chapters.
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Old 2011-02-21, 17:37   Link #7840
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I find HnG littered more with random slice of life chapters filled with 4th wall breaking and references than I do with actual plot. I don't think I remember anything important happening other than meeting every character and Hayate's past and present with Athena.
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