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Old 2011-03-19, 22:44   Link #9061
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Accel should thank Acqua and Touma one-hundred times after they spared him from a world of pain
And Kazakiri's help.

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Shit, that Accel quote is going straight on the wiki.
Be prudent, there was a time certain uknown sers added every single line they thought it could be added, and then... we have a lot of Touma lines...
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Old 2011-03-19, 22:51   Link #9062
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And Kazakiri's help.


Be prudent, there was a time certain uknown sers added every single line they thought it could be added, and then... we have a lot of Touma lines...
Kamijyo's little *insert appropriate colour* book?
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Old 2011-03-19, 23:17   Link #9063
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Kamijyo's little *insert appropriate colour* book?
Sort of.


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Spoiler for This is the enemy that must be defeated at all costs:


Knight Leader creeps me out. Thumbnail size in order to save the world.
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Old 2011-03-19, 23:19   Link #9064
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Sort of.


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Spoiler for This is the enemy that must be defeated at all costs:


Knight Leader creeps me out. Thumbnail size in order to save the world.
Knight Leader is secretly a pervert.....well I guess one has to be different to be the no magic weapons user in the world.... I mean just look at his last scene with William before the latter left
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Old 2011-03-20, 03:19   Link #9065
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1) I'm not so sure about the previous part, but yes, Islam had been mentioned at least once back in Vol.11 when Biagio was ranting about how it (and all the other Christian sects etc.) were cramping on the Roman Catholics style.

2) Other than that though, they haven't been really properly introduced into the To Aru-verse proper. But I don't see why you wouldn't be able to write that fanfic, it sounds like something that would fit
1) I'll check about it later in baka-tsuki.

About the infos, apparently it was my friend's personal hypothesis, but he himself has forgotten about his own reasoning for it

2) Indeed it would. Can't left a religion with more than 1 billion adherers alone while Christianity, Judaism, and Buddhism have been all thoroughly exploited

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I'm guessing Islamic magic would have roots in the culture and the magic of other cultures before them, like the Greeks. Maybe even have a mathematical aspect to it, considering how the Christian world was in the Dark Ages compared to the vastly more intellectual Islamic empire.
Potentially so. But then again, Islam also has this concept of "power that God permits", ruqyah. And there are also differing definitions of the word sihr among muslims, too.

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1) Quite frankly, I find the idea of introducing Islamic magicians contradictory. In modern day Islam, practicing magic and other forms of witchcraft is forbidden in the religion. Islam might be more into the science side, than magic side...

2) Perhaps, the author has some other plans for introducing the Islamic sect, they were briefly mentioned in volume 11 by Biaggio I think. He only mentioned that their numbers were steadily increasing, but there wasn't any mention whether they were magic users or not. The author could very well not mention Islam at all.
1) Christianity also forbids it.

Also, there is Sufism in Islam, which is indeed Islamic mysticism. Sounds like a gold mine of many magical traditions for me

However, there is also Salafism, that is the school of anti-mysticism and speculative theology, the ultra-Orthodox. Wahabism is a brand of Salafism. And there happens to be this certain Wahabi country in our world's Middle East which does seem rich enough if it is to invest a load in scientific ESP development program...

2) Somehow I rather not having the author introducing Islam in canon. Not only I have my own personal reasons but I'm rather skeptical about the author's depth of knowledge about Islam

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I've never heard of Islam being used before. The only time I get that impression is when the magicians talk about the Angels being puppets and having no free will of their own, this was the Muslim's view on God's Angels as well.
Some say Angels are God's puppets, some say they have limited sentience and personal autonomy.

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Old 2011-03-20, 03:46   Link #9066
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Alright, I'm back... and up to Ch3 pt7 of NT is out:

Spoiler for ITEM + Shiage:
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Old 2011-03-20, 06:30   Link #9067
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1) I'll check about it later in baka-tsuki.

About the infos, apparently it was my friend's personal hypothesis, but he himself has forgotten about his own reasoning for it

2) Indeed it would. Can't left a religion with more than 1 billion adherers alone while Christianity, Judaism, and Buddhism have been all thoroughly exploited



Potentially so. But then again, Islam also has this concept of "power that God permits", ruqyah. And there are also differing definitions of the word sihr among muslims, too.



1) Christianity also forbids it.

Also, there is Sufism in Islam, which is indeed Islamic mysticism. Sounds like a gold mine of many magical traditions for me

However, there is also Salafism, that is the school of anti-mysticism and speculative theology, the ultra-Orthodox. Wahabism is a brand of Salafism. And there happens to be this certain Wahabi country in our world's Middle East which does seem rich enough if it is to invest a load in scientific ESP development program...

2) Somehow I rather not having the author introducing Islam in canon. Not only I have my own personal reasons but I'm rather skeptical about the author's depth of knowledge about Islam



Some say Angels are God's puppets, some say they have limited sentience and personal autonomy.
That's why most of the Christian magic concepts here are actually Kabbalistic. Jewish mysticism solves that since Judaism and Christianity are so similar.
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Old 2011-03-20, 06:54   Link #9068
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Alright, I'm back... and up to Ch3 pt7 of NT is out:

Spoiler for ITEM + Shiage:

...Does that have anything to do with this

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Spoiler for Komaba... T_T:
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Old 2011-03-20, 07:34   Link #9069
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Oh god is Motoharu a lolicon as well? WHAT HAS HE DONE TO THIS CHILD?!
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Old 2011-03-20, 07:38   Link #9070
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...then decided to join Worst in the best, most angry threesome ever.

THE END.
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Old 2011-03-20, 07:45   Link #9071
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Oh god is Motoharu a lolicon as well? WHAT HAS HE DONE TO THIS CHILD?!
You must've missed out on this part...

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Aogami: “Why is it always flat chests with you!? And you don’t really like bunnies at all! You’re just fine with anything loli!!”

Tsuchimikado: “That’s true, Aogami Pierce. Be it a bunny girl outfit, a gymnastics leotard, or a school swimsuit, when put on the wonder that is a loli, the small distinctions between outfits are moot. So my argument is that lolis look good in whatever they wear, so a loli bunny girl is the best bunny girl!!”

Kamijou: “You bastard!! So you really weren’t talking about bunny girls at all!!”
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Old 2011-03-20, 07:50   Link #9072
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Damn, now he's even more of a motherfucker...badass, but still.
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Old 2011-03-20, 09:29   Link #9073
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Pin has finished Chapter 1.
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Old 2011-03-20, 10:51   Link #9074
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Its starting to seem as if Shiage has Misfortune just as bad as Touma does
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Old 2011-03-20, 11:19   Link #9075
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That's why most of the Christian magic concepts here are actually Kabbalistic. Jewish mysticism solves that since Judaism and Christianity are so similar.



Judaism, Christianity, and muslim are similiar ~_~ these are so called

samawi religion, cause have same god as abraham

in muslim

sihr = supernatural power you get when contracted with evil

miracle = god bless you


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Old 2011-03-20, 13:04   Link #9076
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I think i kinda realize something.

So as the story goes on its seems that accelerator is accepting god more and more while touma is the one who hates or disagrees with god. You think this leads to something?

Also, i wish that haimura did concept arts on the robots.

-Anyone have scans of some of his pictures in the artbook?

-anyone got a summary of the love letter battle?
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Old 2011-03-20, 13:05   Link #9077
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Parts 2 - 3 of Chapter 3 out.

I think I might take back my last post, Shiage is actually very lucky that the pilot wasn't intentionally trying to kill them

I_am_Kami: Good point, how ironic
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Old 2011-03-20, 16:34   Link #9078
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Also, i wish that haimura did concept arts on the robots.
I think he said that he didn't like drawing mecha
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Old 2011-03-20, 16:44   Link #9079
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So as the story goes on its seems that accelerator is accepting god more and more while touma is the one who hates or disagrees with god. You think this leads to something?
I don't notice this at all, could you elaborate?


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-Anyone have scans of some of his pictures in the artbook?
TO be honest it's quite disappointing, any one of us who had spent the last year here would have more images than his illustration book.
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Old 2011-03-20, 16:58   Link #9080
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I don't notice this at all, could you elaborate?

V.22 when he is praying, i heard something about him mentioning god in V.13 and V.15 or 19. Becoming a white angel.

Touma pre-memory loss and probably V.14 arguing with terra. Though touma himself possibly holding the Fallen angel himself.
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