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Old 2011-03-31, 11:16   Link #301
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Huh.

Again, I think you misunderstood my point.

Beggars can't be choosers.

You don't want to help, even when asked? Then don't complain when you don't get what you want.
At this moment I am understanding that you got a giant chip on your shoulder.

I have every right to ask theoretical questions, like I did upthread. If you blow a gasket because I don't fall on my knees to worship whenever you pass by, then it is not my damn problem.
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Old 2011-03-31, 16:38   Link #302
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@yotty and maggie: Clearly, there are unspoken things that needed to be said, misunderstandings that needed to be solved. Are you aware that if you two were in an anime, it would spawn a 24 episode BL series with rabid fangirls all over it? All that's missing is a tragic past and silent BL tears of rage.

So let's smile, kiss and make up, lest you turn this to Junjou Macross... not that you needed much help, really.
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Old 2011-03-31, 18:25   Link #303
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Awww, do I get to be the seme?

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Old 2011-04-06, 02:55   Link #304
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That... is rather vague.
I have read lots of fragments in chinese but Google translate simply can't deliver the full meaning. I just could get bad impressions and summaries taken directly from a bad fanfiction.

I'm really sleepy now, so here is a scan and the Amazon rating (the worst i have seen for a macross product)

http://www.amazon.co.jp/product-revi...DateDescending

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Old 2011-04-06, 03:12   Link #305
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Huh. Most claim it's pretty bad written (compared to the previous one) and reads like a bad fanfic.
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Old 2011-04-06, 03:22   Link #306
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Anything in particular which they complain about? That still sounds quite vague.
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Old 2011-04-06, 07:24   Link #307
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Well... If you want one example, that certain scanned page is... describing Ranka's feeling to Alto. Yeah, all of them. Quantity wouldn't be bad IF the writing is at least interesting, however...

Boy, it was annoying to see the 'but's. I mean, really, do we need one and a quarter full page of dragged out shoujo-esque -no, I'm not kidding. Seriously.- description of what the heck does Ranka's form of love to Alto is...? (It's not helped with the damned wording being repetitive and annoying when you are reading it in a go.)

Most of the reviewers get the feeling that the characterization here is watered down or sth, and then the scenes just don't have the emotional impacts like what they have seen from the movie. And then some. I haven't seen the details for the people who gave it good review, but the gist of the bad reviews are how much the novel is just... Blech to them. The emotions they feel in the movie just disappear in the novelization.

-cough now to disappear to oblivion again... Damned charger busted on me and I have to redo 3 excel spreadsheets asdfhjkl /brain disconnect now/-
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Old 2011-04-06, 07:26   Link #308
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Tell me about it, I am writing out a work paper and it's not going as fast I'd like. But thanks for your impressions.

I guess it wasn't the same author as the series light novels? ^^
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Old 2011-04-06, 07:36   Link #309
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I guess it wasn't the same author as the series light novels? ^^
It's actually the same one, Ukyo Kodachi.

And hey, I'm just putting up the thoughts from the reviewers, no way I will ever buy a novelization of a TV series/movie I have never changed my stance in novelization of an original series after all~~
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Old 2011-04-06, 07:53   Link #310
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I can tell you some things but nothing for sure, all comes from google

- The main conflict is not resolved (maybe not even issued)
- Pathetic inner thoughts from Alto and Sheryl regarding themselves and Ranka
- Sheryl destiny is unclear, but she might be dead
- Ranka writing Houkago Overflow thinking: I'll reach Alto no matter what
- Author pointting out Alto will forget Sheryl (google says: forgetting the dead) someday and going back to Ranka
- Alto depicted more gay than ever, some weird exchanges with Michel
- In general, several scenes from movie not written, new scenes popping out everywhere.
- Bad writing, even lack of spell-check

Its really hard to find out specific scenes, nobody talks about it, just says is bad in a whole
And the author is the same as the series novels.
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Old 2011-04-06, 08:00   Link #311
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Uh, okay. ^^ That certainly is a bit confusing, given that the light novels of the series seemed to be well received in contrast. I think I won't speculate on why there seems to be such a difference in quality, because making wild guesses as to someones personal motives seems a bit out of place.
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Old 2011-04-06, 08:15   Link #312
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I forgot:

- Sheryl sings only for herself or for Alto, but Ranka songs are for everyone alive human or not, even holding a concert for the infected (whatever that means).

All of this of course might be exaggerated for the reviewers.
Yotchan probably has read it too and is waiting to make an impression.
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Old 2011-04-06, 08:16   Link #313
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- Ranka writing Houkago Overflow thinking: I'll reach Alto no matter what
Ah, so it was Houkago Overflow she is writing in the scan. Still, I thought this part is not her thinking something like that, but more of her wanting song will be heard by him. It's kinda like wistful thinking than, say, persistence naivety.

*coughIsaythiscomplain'soverFanDumbcough*

But then I don't know the full context so I admit high chance I might be wrong.

Still not happy with the writing though--I swear it's annoying there.
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Old 2011-04-06, 08:23   Link #314
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Okay, this is becoming to sound excessively like a giant troll by disgruntled people on Amazon.jp. ^^ It seems a bit too much... on the nose. Or maybe that is the long-awaited Ranka love letter her fans were so long waiting for.
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Old 2011-04-06, 08:32   Link #315
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- Ranka writing Houkago Overflow thinking: I'll reach Alto no matter what
Isn't that a bad song to try to reach another person with considering what its about? It sounds happy yes, but the song is ultimately about stepping back and cheering on your loved one to getting the girl that isn't you. If Ranka is trying to reach out Alto with the song, then her message to him, would be that its alright for him to chase after Sheryl.
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Old 2011-04-06, 08:37   Link #316
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Not so sure, i think the timing was the problem, like just after Sheryl's death or smthing

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小說關於蘭花唱「放課後」的心情
她是想到自己是每天都在床上喊「Alto君」緊抱熊寶寶滾來滾去,因此摔到床下
她把心情寫成歌詞,雖然丟臉但懷抱期待「Alto君,總有一天你會再聽我的歌吧」

也就是說,蘭花把放課後唱得這般歡欣鼓舞裝可愛,小說作者的解說是:
總有一天,公主會忘記死人的褪色遺照,回頭再去找她,她會張開手臂緊抱他
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Sheryl>
Sheyrl很迷惘。她知道自己與蘭花相比是配不上Alto的存在。
偽物的自己比起蘭花很虛無。
比起那個內心溫柔,以天性的歌聲讓一切傾倒的少女,自己是……
即使如此她還是必須跑近Alto。

蘭花>
蘭花把全部的力量傾住在纖柔的雙腳,只顧著持續向少年奔走。
那柔軟地被風翻弄的美麗翡翠色頭髮,少年瞇起眼睛如同看到炫目之物。
朝向自己拼命奔走的心地溫柔的少女,完全就是清純的天使、可愛的妖精一般。
「Alto君」
如同讓人想起天上音色的聲音,通澄清透讓心情好的聲音,呼喚著少年的名字。
蘭花的聲音,在這個時候讓所有聽到的人的內心全都傾倒。
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「那個孩子一直如同春風一般靠近Sheryl的心。無可救藥的明朗、溫柔,她與僅是為了自己而盡全力唱歌的 Sheryl不同,她一直都是考慮到他人的事,以那種貼近的心情唱歌。」
@magnus:
Or maybe the author wasn't trusted with the contents of the actual movie and his release date was one month after the premiere.
And none of the things i posted comes from the Amazon reviews but from chinese ppl who I'm guessing has the novel in their hands


Anyway, I'll try not speculate more until someone writes a proper english summary
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Old 2011-04-06, 08:41   Link #317
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Seems like massive fail on part of author. Or, as I said, a massive troll by the Amazon reviewers. ^^
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Old 2011-04-06, 08:46   Link #318
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Isn't that a bad song to try to reach another person with considering what its about? It sounds happy yes, but the song is ultimately about stepping back and cheering on your loved one to getting the girl that isn't you. If Ranka is trying to reach out Alto with the song, then her message to him, would be that its alright for him to chase after Sheryl.
The only way it would make sense is if Ranka is saying "go after Sheryl with my blessing, I'll poach you on the rebound after your true love dies from a terminal, incurable disease!", and, as many problems I have with Ranka, I don't think she would be quite that heartless.

Meh, I'll wait until I've read it (if I'm ever able to), but so far, I'm not impressed with what the rumours say.

Were all reviews submitted on April 1st?
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Old 2011-04-06, 10:08   Link #319
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- Author pointting out Alto will forget Sheryl (google says: forgetting the dead) someday and going back to Ranka
I don't like Ranka is the second option.
If Alto didn't choose Ranka a first,
bad luck for you Alto!
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Old 2011-04-06, 10:41   Link #320
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Being the "fall back choice" is actually not that bad, now is it?
I don't know about you guys, but I wouldn't like that very much, were I Ranka...
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